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Posted
15 hours ago, Laika said:

 

wow Josh Naylor has a negative wRC+ after 15 games. WBC Naylor is trucking along like a zombie into the MLB regular season. 

Can you make a post like this about some of our players who have had slow starts?  Hopefully today will go as well as yesterday did for Naylor.

Posted

wow Addison Barger is s***** a hacker with two bum ankles 

wow George Springer is 42 

wow Lauer Corbin Scherzer Berrios should just retire because of mono flu sucky oldness 

wow Nathan Lukes is not even AAA quality but he might be a good 14U coach in a few years 

wow Kaz Okamoto seems like a total bust, fringe D and swiss cheese swing 

wow wow Wow WOW 

Posted
3 hours ago, Laika said:

wow Addison Barger is s***** a hacker with two bum ankles 

wow George Springer is 42 

wow Lauer Corbin Scherzer Berrios should just retire because of mono flu sucky oldness 

wow Nathan Lukes is not even AAA quality but he might be a good 14U coach in a few years 

wow Kaz Okamoto seems like a total bust, fringe D and swiss cheese swing 

wow wow Wow WOW 

2013 - Josh Johnson career over, Brett Lawrey complete bust, Melky Cabrera can't hit without roids,  Brandon Morrow no!.  RA Dickey not a Cy Young just an old slopper like the other knuckleballers.  Emilio Bonficacio? Maicer Izturus?  What were they thinking.

2017 - Bautista done (same age Springer is now),  Tulo done (30 more games played left in life), Sanchez done (no more health), Ryan Goins...  what were they thinking.

2013, 2017, 2009, 2018, 2004, 1997.

Such is life.  Disaster, disappointment, total disaster, no hope, no chance, not even a bit... just as common as the good, more common for most.  The lucky few experience little pain, but for most pain is the norm.

 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

2013 - Josh Johnson career over, Brett Lawrey complete bust, Melky Cabrera can't hit without roids,  Brandon Morrow no!.  RA Dickey not a Cy Young just an old slopper like the other knuckleballers.  Emilio Bonficacio? Maicer Izturus?  What were they thinking.

2017 - Bautista done (same age Springer is now),  Tulo done (30 more games played left in life), Sanchez done (no more health), Ryan Goins...  what were they thinking.

2013, 2017, 2009, 2018, 2004, 1997.

Such is life.  Disaster, disappointment, total disaster, no hope, no chance, not even a bit... just as common as the good, more common for most.  The lucky few experience little pain, but for most pain is the norm.

 

I think you missed the point of that post you’re responding to

Posted
2 hours ago, Stangstag said:

I think you missed the point of that post you’re responding to

I'm not sure what the point of the post was.  It could be to illustrate that as bad as things have been it is unlikely they will continue to continue to trend that bad.  Barger will come back and hit 30 homers.  Okamata 30 too.  Yesivage 11-3 140 innings pitched.  Beiber 9-3 103 innings pitched.  Hell even Ponce may show up October 15th.

Perhaps.  However according to fangraphs and Bayesian statistics you can already update your beliefs significantly based on new events.   So more than likely if Ponce shows up October 15th the only place has to go is Dunnedin (I think about a 8% chance Jays are planning October 15th now, down from probably 25% opening day).  Less than 10% chance they win the division.    

Posted
4 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Perhaps.  However according to fangraphs and Bayesian statistics you can already update your beliefs significantly based on new events.

People shouldn't give me a hard time, a jobless middle aged loser, fancied myself a day trader, was far too clever and shorted the market time and again (most recently just a week ago), am hundreds of thousands in debt, and no hope for ever a moment of happiness, now wasting almost the entire day now watching Pluribus youtube videos (don't even post here much).  If you disagree with the fangraphs statistical playoff odds model write them a letter.

Dear Fangraphs

I see you only give the Jays 33% chance of making playoffs while Yankees have 84% chance.  How so only 2 weeks into season?  The Yankees, they can't play defense, can't run the bases, and frankly aren't a good team, while the Jays are a hell of a bunch guys, who just had a 10 day stretch of bad injury luck.  Make sure you take all that into account in your modelling. 

Respectfully yours

Blue Jays Message Board. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I'm not sure what the point of the post was.  It could be to illustrate that as bad as things have been it is unlikely they will continue to continue to trend that bad.  Barger will come back and hit 30 homers.  Okamata 30 too.  Yesivage 11-3 140 innings pitched.  Beiber 9-3 103 innings pitched.  Hell even Ponce may show up October 15th.

   

He posted about Josh Naylor having a bad start to the season yesterday shortly before Naylor went off.  So  I asked him to make a similar post about some of our guys hoping it would lead to the same thing.

Posted

JoJo parker has a 165 wRC+ in a tiny 41 game sample size in the FSL

That is the best qualified mark for any teenager in the league.

Blaine Bullard in the same league has 3 homers already and a 137 wRC+. One of the homers was 423 feet. Preseason scouting reports only gave him 40 grade raw power.  

Posted
2 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Have they moved Parker off SS yet? He certainly doesn't look like a SS.

Despite him looking comically large next to everyone else in this clip, there's no reason to move him off SS for the time being. Even if he's a butcher to begin with, he's young and it's good to develop players at the tougher position for as long as you can. Addison Barger had minor league SS starts in 2024 and 2025 and if you look at the man he should be nowhere near the position.

Of the rookie phenoms this year, McGonigle is splitting his time 50/50 between SS and 3B, Wetherholt has been a full-time 2B - mostly due to the preexistence of the elite Masyn Winn. Hell the Blue Jays stuck with a fat Bo Bichette for years after he was past his athletic prime and was bleeding runs on defense even before that. Move him off SS when he forces you to or there's a better defender occupying the position that necessitates the move.

Posted
2 hours ago, Orgfiller said:

Despite him looking comically large next to everyone else in this clip, there's no reason to move him off SS for the time being. Even if he's a butcher to begin with, he's young and it's good to develop players at the tougher position for as long as you can. Addison Barger had minor league SS starts in 2024 and 2025 and if you look at the man he should be nowhere near the position.

Of the rookie phenoms this year, McGonigle is splitting his time 50/50 between SS and 3B, Wetherholt has been a full-time 2B - mostly due to the preexistence of the elite Masyn Winn. Hell the Blue Jays stuck with a fat Bo Bichette for years after he was past his athletic prime and was bleeding runs on defense even before that. Move him off SS when he forces you to or there's a better defender occupying the position that necessitates the move.

Very much agree with this. No reason to not try to develop him as Shortstop as long as you can. 

Posted
20 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Have they moved Parker off SS yet? He certainly doesn't look like a SS.

What is his arm like?  Seems like "unathletic" (compared to Ozzie Smith) guys like RIpken and Tulo can make up for it and still be elite if they have a great and accurate arm.

So like there is some combination of Ozzie Smith like athleticism and arm strength with accuracy that has to be at a minimum.  Unathletic with not a great arm he has no chance so yeah move him.  However if athleticism + arm is at some minimum where it's feasible keep him there. 

Posted

Report say he's added 20 lbs since being drafted.  I don't disagree that they should keep him there as long as possible, but the guy is moving to 3rd base soon.

I guess that approach doesn't really hinder your development as a 3rd baseman - as this is pretty common.

Posted
1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

Report say he's added 20 lbs since being drafted.  I don't disagree that they should keep him there as long as possible, but the guy is moving to 3rd base soon.

I guess that approach doesn't really hinder your development as a 3rd baseman - as this is pretty common.

Latest write up by BA in early April...

BA Grade/Risk: 60/High

Adjusted Grade: 45

Track Record: In the months leading up to the 2025 draft, no player had more helium than Parker. A four-year varsity starter for Purvis High in Mississippi, his impressive performance at East Coast Pro in 2024 got the hype train to leave the station. The Blue Jays drafted Parker with the eighth overall pick in 2025 and signed him for just under $6.2 million. He didn’t debut following the draft but did participate in unofficial bridge league games. Parker’s birth name is Joseph, but he goes by JoJo. His twin brother Jacob is an outfielder who played for Purvis and attends Mississippi State.

Scouting Report: Parker is a physical shortstop who stands 6-foot-2 with a strong, muscular build and room to add more strength. He was one of the older players in the 2025 high school class but shows arguably the best balance of hitting and power among his prep peers. Parker sets up with an open stance and a narrow base. He rests the bat on his shoulder, then engages his load with a leg kick that feeds into an aggressive stride. Parker shows plus bat-to-ball skills and a patient approach. He can get overly passive at times, taking too many hittable pitches in the zone. He does a good job of pulling pitches located on the inner half of the plate and shows plus raw power. His swing is more geared toward hard line drives than lofted fly balls, but he should grow into above-average power at peak. Parker is an average runner who gets out of the box well, but he’s unlikely to impact the game much with his speed. Parker is a shortstop at present but is likely to move to third base. He lacks the quick-twitch mechanisms and range needed to play shortstop. He does have a strong internal clock and an above-average arm.

The Future: Parker projects as an above-average regular at third base who could one day grow into an all-star.

Scouting Grades Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Field: 50 | Arm: 55

Posted
7 hours ago, Laika said:

Maybe we pivot to prospect porn for the rest of 2026

 

 

Confirmed.

April 16, 2026

SS Juan Sanchez assigned to Dunedin Blue Jays from DSL Blue Jays Red.

the next dynamic duo taking shape

Posted
Just now, Jays24 said:

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I'm actually encouraged by stuff like this. We are playing like absolute dogshit and it's about as bad of a start to the season that you could imagine.

Yet we're only 2.5 games behind the Yankees who are two Jordan Romano appearances away from a 9 game losing steak.

Thing can only go up from here.

Posted
6 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Sounds like the next coming of Bo and Vlad!

Wouldn't that be nice?

Who would be their version of Craig Biggio's son? It really was about all 3 of them in the minors until Biggio shat the bed in the bigs by never swinging the bat.

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Wouldn't that be nice?

Who would be their version of Craig Biggio's son? It really was about all 3 of them in the minors until Biggio shat the bed in the bigs by never swinging the bat.

Sean Casey's son!!!

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