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Is it though? We have seen some legendary flops lately on big contracts for POSITION PLAYERS and in my head many of the best contracts for elite old players have been with starting pitchers pitching is horribly risky but there is this rare breed of arm that is just... elite until they are 40. I wonder if taking the ball 32 times at age 36 is in some ways easier than playing 150+ games on your feet and staying healthy through 10,000 swings and running the bases and all that From 2020 to 2026, Age 35+ 4+ fWAR seasons Bats: Springer 2025, Muncy 2026 (4.1) and Turner 2021 (4.0) --> THREE OCCURENCES BUT TWO OF THEM ARE WALL SCRAPERS Arms: Sale 2024, Verlander 2022, Sale 2026, Scherzer 2021, Morton 2021, Scherzer 2022, deGrom 2026, Darvish 2022, Wheeler 2025, Wheeler 2026 --> TEN OCCURENCES EXPAND SEARCH to 2000 to 2026 and you get 47 hitters vs 51 pitchers so it's much closer. But the game has changed. More pressure on all the little details, defense and baserunning and stuff. More platoons.

Another Vlad! Maybe this one won't suck

Shane Bieber is shamelessly obsessed with coming back to Toronto

Of course Barry Bonds remains the craziest modern player ever Imagine if Mike Trout never got hurt or declined and instead was an MVP until 36 and then had an Aaron Judge four year steroid fueled cheater peak and then also added 7 WAR after 40 and retired after a 1.000 OPS season at 42 That's Barry Bonds drugs, man.

I thought about this yesterday I do think the Mets would pay it down slightly to get out of it

Realistically I don't want any of them Toronto will do their usual thing and consider literally everybody Probably someone like Boyd/Flaherty/Eflin

Toronto can play the three old friends off of each other Gausman - best durability and quality on a one year deal Bassitt - durability but performance questions (no real "upside") Bieber - guarantees nothing but should be the cheapest, and does have "upside" theoretically If Bassitt is $12M and Bieber is $9M who do you want? I feel like Toronto would want the innings more.

Everything like this just makes me appreciate Mike Trout more as time goes on 163 career wRC+ and never below 160 in a season until his age 31 year. And still never below 122. 8 or 9 consecutive MVP quality seasons. Just the GOAT of the 2000s. The only comparable feat would be Judge's 2022-2025 peak.

So 2027 payroll looks to be around $239m or so, before any additions. I think they will explore the SP market for depth but land back with Bieber on a much cheaper pillow deal, maybe $8m or so. That's your SP5 behind Ponce. Cease, Soriano, Yesavage, Ponce, Bieber.... Miles (swing)... Arrighetti (AAA), Berrios (IL for 1 months), Bloss, Bowden, Tiedemann, Stanifer, King, Perry. I don't think the pen requires a big investment. That does leave a good amount of money to try and improve the bats.

Nope I think it was only Varsho and Alek Thomas

Since Toronto is a big market team now and they will sign free agents and extend players, we will see this forever They will lean towards trading good prospects rather than make room for all of them and take the performance risk In four years we may very well regret the Soriano Nimmala trade just like this Moreno Varsho deal It's not a bad thing though. Think about how many top prospects the Dodgers have to give away or use in trades. Miguel Vargas...

Necessary is a weird word They had Kirk, Jansen, and Moreno Nowhere for all three Only a long term spot for one And they had no long term CF Kirk is shaped like Danny Devito so he probably was hard to trade at that time, and get good value Jansen was solid but not worth much with limited control Who knows what other trades were even possible at the time What is the alternative to trading - converting Moreno to 3B?

Worst post in the history of the message board

He should be politely boo'd because he sucks and he sucked all year and the team sucked mostly because of him forget the comments, he has always been a buffoon

He says he is sorry, he has apologized to his teammates, he is going to work hard to make his contract a great one, and he talked to his dad who told him he needed to apologize, and the comments he made were "not really what he wanted to say"