Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Jonn]

Also Stephen Vogt has now been a manager for 2 years and has won AL Manager of the Year both years.

Maybe someone has won the award back to back before. But how many times has a manager won less games and won 2 years in a row lol.

[SeranthonySantander]

Was just watching that clip of Kevin Millar asking if he’d rather have A-rod or their current shortstop, Garciaparra and he says “we’ll take A-rod”.

 Hoping we get the same drama and an interview with Vlad asking if he’d rather sign Tucker or Bo

 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

100% they were - over and over.  Embarrassing.

I smell the salt too. It is embarrassing, and it's not even hyperbole and bias as a fan. Jays were last in the East in '24 and we won the East??? 

[Funky]

I think Bo at second base hitting forth would be awesome. 
 

Now to make the team special , Tatis Jr hitting in the two hole would be absolutely insane .  I believe his tax hit is 25 million a year and the high end of his contract is 36 million a year   
 

He would take a massive return to get, not sure we have it, but if San Diego wants to lower payroll, we have a lot of players that can fill-in and produce right now for them.  

If Bo does re-up it crowds the infield with Gimenez and him taking up most innings at short and second, hopefully with Bo at second.  Vlad is going nowhere and will be the first baseman for the next half dozen years and if he keeps, his body in shape maybe longer.

That leaves Clement fighting with Barger for third base as well as occasionally spelling off at second and short.  Barger with his left-handed, bat and power would be hard to move on from and is improved play in the outfield still makes him a valuable piece. With injuries, and a DH spot, have no problem, keeping both on the team, and both busy.  Springer, Bo, Gimenez will not be able to play every day and most likely will spend some time on the DL. 
 

This also really crowds the outfield and without a guy I’d be comfortable covering for Varsho in centerfield plus the amount of money on his contract, making him hard to move. I think that leaves straw as one of the bench players we need to keep.

Santander hit, which which is nice, hits for power, which is nice, and is coming off of dismal season. If there is anyway, we could move him to a team just to get rid of the contract and put that money towards Tatis Jr that would be an ultimate coup. With San Diego, trying to remain competitive but dropping salary could he maybe be part of the package back? I would think his value has to be about even meaning I don’t think we have to give up extra prospects just to offload his contract as his past history has shown he is a good power hitter when healthy.
 

Now for the main pieces of the trade value wise, I would think Nimmala and Tiedemann are the bare minimum that would have to leave our prospect pool.  However Nimmala will not be helping San Diego in the very near future.  Santander covers a bit of Tatis power but they will need something else.

Schneider is a multi tool but does he have any value  

what could we throw at San Diego to get young, gold glove, right fielder, with insane energy, speed, and a great bat?  Between his age, skill, and Friendly contract, you would think he will cost an absolute ton.  
 

Sorry, I was listening to podcasts today on how we could fit both Bo and Tucker into the lineup and I got excited. Tatis jr would be like Tucker on steroids with a better cap hit and defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SeranthonySantander]

The only way Santander gets moved is either eating the money or some type of shady backroom deal that will land Atkins in prison.  Or I guess taking someone equally as bad contract for a pitcher or something.  His contract could still be good, we need to give him a few months to see what he can do.

[Joltin Joe]

5 hours ago, Pendleton said:

For a trade candidate bat I like Brendan Donovan. Lefty bat with a career .282/.361/.411 slashline (119 wRC+) who can move all over the diamond as needed. Perhaps the Cards can package him with JoJo Romero who would project as our best lefty RP. 

 

Inexpensive acquisitions in terms of salary, that could leave room for other major upgrades. 

What Jays going to give up for those two?

[Stangstag]

4 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Apparently Rosie D. of Toronto Star voted for Voight... why?  Why do any of these people vote for 87 win negative run differential manager that benefited from a crazy Tigers slump?  

She seems like a joy of a person. Probably upset with how Schneider answered her question one time.

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

The only way Santander gets moved is either eating the money or some type of shady backroom deal that will land Atkins in prison.  Or I guess taking someone equally as bad contract for a pitcher or something.  His contract could still be good, we need to give him a few months to see what he can do.

All this talk of moving Santander is so stupid. You dont sign a guy to a 5-year deal and then salary dump him after year 1 lol.

He fills a need in this lineup, switch hitter with power. No need to try and make a move when its not necessary 

[Terminator]

15 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

All this talk of moving Santander is so stupid. You dont sign a guy to a 5-year deal and then salary dump him after year 1 lol.

He fills a need in this lineup, switch hitter with power. No need to try and make a move when its not necessary 

Yeah and on top of it he has deferrals in his contract so he only counts for 13.7M against the tax threshhold

If he starts sucking you just move him to the bench and it barely makes a dent in the payroll

[Spanky__99]

19 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

She seems like a joy of a person. Probably upset with how Schneider answered her question one time.

She's a f*ckin' c*nt, hate that b*tch and Steve Simmon's equally.

[Terminator]

5 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Apparently Rosie D. of Toronto Star voted for Voight... why?  Why do any of these people vote for 87 win negative run differential manager that benefited from a crazy Tigers slump?  

What the hell is her problem?

[Spanky__99]

5 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

And losing to the Dodgers the way they did is better than losing 4-1 in a ho-hum World Series.

Practically speaking the 2 extra games in Toronto and insane TV rating probably made 5 million over  a 5 game boring World Series.  Also made it appear as Toronto was about as good as LA...

The Jays were better, meat... Yamamoto was the difference... hence the MVP award.

[Spanky__99]

5 hours ago, Jonn said:

Also Stephen Vogt has now been a manager for 2 years and has won AL Manager of the Year both years.

Maybe someone has won the award back to back before. But how many times has a manager won less games and won 2 years in a row lol.

It's a joke... legit.

[Spanky__99]

18 minutes ago, Terminator said:

What the hell is her problem?

Check out her history, it's ugly... worse than Steve Simmon's from the Sun, it's horribad, dude.

She was so wrong it hurts, lol.

[mphenhef]

10 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

Guardians have 2 players gambling on pitches.

Get down 15 games to the tigers and make up 16 games because the tigers completely fall off.  Maybe don’t go down 15 games in the first place?

Fair enough 

This reminds me of the time a team at my work won team of the year for fixing so many bugs in their product.  I was like “but they were the reason it was so buggy in the first place!”

[jaysblue]

4 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

She's a f*ckin' c*nt, hate that b*tch and Steve Simmon's equally.

Why is she still allowed to vote on these awards? She is old, clueless and non-relevant in the baseball world. 

[Pendleton]

7 hours ago, Joltin Joe said:

What Jays going to give up for those two?

 

Well it sounds like the Cards are motivated to cut payroll, so I'm assuming they will be looking for cost controlled assets. I think we would be looking at a package that includes prospects and/or cheap MLB ready talent. Probably would have to give up at least one of our better prospects, along with perhaps warm bodies like a Loperfido, who doesn't have a clear path to playing time here. But the main currency, I'd expect to be prospects 

 

 

[Pendleton]

Is RJ Schreck perhaps a sleeper candidate to contribute to the 2026 roster? He has hit and produced big OBP numbers at each level. It's also interesting to note that upon being moved up to AAA in early June, he actually spent slightly more time in CF than anywhere else. 23 AAA starts in CF, 21 in RF, 4 in LF and 6 in the DH spot. If he can passably hack it in center, obviously that hugely increases his utility. He looks like a hitter 

[Nexii]

I still think we need to dump everything into pitching. We're forgetting how bad April was, with Green and Francis eating innings. We're a few injuries away from a scenario where we give up 800 runs... it wouldn't matter how much we slug in that scenario. We'd be Arizona basically, a .500 team at best.

Of all the playoff teams we gave up the most runs and that was with the best defense in the league.

[Brownie19]

11 hours ago, Jonn said:

Also Stephen Vogt has now been a manager for 2 years and has won AL Manager of the Year both years.

Maybe someone has won the award back to back before. But how many times has a manager won less games and won 2 years in a row lol.

Pat Murphy (Brewers) just won it B2B seasons as well...

[L54]

8 hours ago, Stangstag said:

All this talk of moving Santander is so stupid. You dont sign a guy to a 5-year deal and then salary dump him after year 1 lol.

He fills a need in this lineup, switch hitter with power. No need to try and make a move when its not necessary 

Agreed. His fit isn’t great positionally but you can’t have everyone playing multiple positions. He’s a switch hitter with 40 HR pop and he’s making like 14M/year AAV 

Can’t judge him on an injury filled season. Complete mulligan for 2025 from me. 

[Hipfan]

I don't get that Tatis talk, he'd require a haul and if you are going to get an outfielder, just sign Tucker (assuming he is interested in coming here). He only costs money plus a loss of a draft pick, whereas Tatis is going to deplete our depth. 

I think the Jays best play is just to resign Bo, grab a top end starter (Cease, Imai, or Suarez) and some BP depth (would love Diaz as our closer, but that may be too rich).

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, Pendleton said:

Is RJ Schreck perhaps a sleeper candidate to contribute to the 2026 roster? He has hit and produced big OBP numbers at each level

I don't know anything about him other than stats scouting his numbers.  First player I think of when looking at his numbers is Nick Swisher.   

[Brownie19]

10 minutes ago, L54 said:

Agreed. His fit isn’t great positionally but you can’t have everyone playing multiple positions. He’s a switch hitter with 40 HR pop and he’s making like 14M/year AAV 

Can’t judge him on an injury filled season. Complete mulligan for 2025 from me. 

The "fit" works well if Springer isn't brought back after next year (which would make me sad).  From everything I've heard, he brings great leadership to the clubhouse as well, which shouldn't be understated.

He was quite consistent and solid the 3 seasons prior to joining the Jays.  He was hurt for most of the season - he deserves a mulligan for sure.

[Angrioter]

Aaron Sanchez asked the LIDOM teams for an opportunity to prove that he still had something left in the tank.

2025 stats:

23 IP, 2 BB, 22 Ks

0.61 WHIP, 0.78 ERA

94 MPH heat

 

https://estadisticas.lidom.com/Miembro/Detalle?idMiembro=11102

[Laika]

1 hour ago, Pendleton said:

Is RJ Schreck perhaps a sleeper candidate to contribute to the 2026 roster? He has hit and produced big OBP numbers at each level. It's also interesting to note that upon being moved up to AAA in early June, he actually spent slightly more time in CF than anywhere else. 23 AAA starts in CF, 21 in RF, 4 in LF and 6 in the DH spot. If he can passably hack it in center, obviously that hugely increases his utility. He looks like a hitter 

The Jays did a really good job in 2025 of cycling through their AAAA guys and finding the MLB talent. 

Wagner and Roden both made the roster but ended up not helping and they were leapfrogged by everyone else. 

Schreck, Pinango, Leo Jimenez, and Kasevich are all in good positions to get a chance if there are injuries or flops ahead of them 

[Laika]

12 minutes ago, Hipfan said:

I don't get that Tatis talk, he'd require a haul and if you are going to get an outfielder, just sign Tucker (assuming he is interested in coming here). He only costs money plus a loss of a draft pick, whereas Tatis is going to deplete our depth. 

I think the Jays best play is just to resign Bo, grab a top end starter (Cease, Imai, or Suarez) and some BP depth (would love Diaz as our closer, but that may be too rich).

Tatis is a 5-6 win player, will be only 27 in two months, and has 9 years and $292M left on his deal 

Extending Vlad (same age as Tatis) took a significantly higher commitment 

Kyle Tucker is two years older, a bit worse right now (~4.5 WAR talent), less tooled up, and will require a contract equal to or greater than what Tatis is owed presently 

I would easily give up some choice prospects for Tatis.

[BTS]

17 minutes ago, Hipfan said:

I don't get that Tatis talk, he'd require a haul and if you are going to get an outfielder, just sign Tucker (assuming he is interested in coming here). He only costs money plus a loss of a draft pick, whereas Tatis is going to deplete our depth. 

I think the Jays best play is just to resign Bo, grab a top end starter (Cease, Imai, or Suarez) and some BP depth (would love Diaz as our closer, but that may be too rich).

Tatis is a very attractive asset. Superstar talent entering his age-27 season and locked up for 9 more years at a 24.1M lluxury tax hit. Tucker is a couple years older, and you're probably talking like 10M more a year on the tax hit. 

It's almost impossible to overpay for Tatis in terms of prospect capital. 

[BTS]

2 minutes ago, Laika said:

Tatis is a 5-6 win player, will be only 27 in two months, and has 9 years and $292M left on his deal 

Extending Vlad (same age as Tatis) took a significantly higher commitment 

Kyle Tucker is two years older, a bit worse right now (~4.5 WAR talent), less tooled up, and will require a contract equal to or greater than what Tatis is owed presently 

I would easily give up some choice prospects for Tatis.

Dammit 

[Orgfiller]

14 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Is Imai going to get a similar contract to Yamamoto? Or is he going to come in cheaper?

Is he comparable to Yamamoto talent wise?

Yamamoto was in his own class coming out of Japan. Imai isn't quite there, he's probably closer to a Kikuchi type, since the command is a grade or two below some of these top Japanese guys we've seen previously like Yamamoto and Tanaka, but the stuff is good. Less of an ace and more of a solid #3 guy is the upside here, with a decent floor.