Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[G-Snarls]

49 minutes ago, Perfect Game said:

Not so funny story, Marge Schott refused to have a party for the Reds when they won the WS because they swept the series & she was pissed she missed out on revenue. The team celebrated by going out for burgers that they paid for on their own.

She was a piece of work that's for sure 

[glory]

From Shi Davidi's latest article:

One thing to keep in mind is that if the Blue Jays don’t get Bichette or Tucker, they can’t simply reallocate the money they would have spent on them elsewhere, as they’re being viewed as specific business cases, like Shohei Ohtani two winters ago. 

Again this is the same guy who said the Jays had $15-20M available to spend last winter and they ended up spending over $60M in 2025 payroll (not counting the trade deadline), so I'll take anything he says with a grain of salt but that's a surprisingly matter-of-fact statement.

[jmomcc]

Just listening to rates and barrells. They were saying that Cease was specifically trying to learn Gausman's splitter from afar and had even thrown it in games this year. Also mentioned that we have the second most splitters of any farm system. 
 

If he could learn a splitter even just to throw to lefties... 

[newhere]

33 minutes ago, glory said:

From Shi Davidi's latest article:

One thing to keep in mind is that if the Blue Jays don’t get Bichette or Tucker, they can’t simply reallocate the money they would have spent on them elsewhere, as they’re being viewed as specific business cases, like Shohei Ohtani two winters ago. 

Again this is the same guy who said the Jays had $15-20M available to spend last winter and they ended up spending over $60M in 2025 payroll (not counting the trade deadline), so I'll take anything he says with a grain of salt but that's a surprisingly matter-of-fact statement.

Is it just me or is Shi basically the Squidward of sports journalism?

[Omar]

39 minutes ago, glory said:

From Shi Davidi's latest article:

One thing to keep in mind is that if the Blue Jays don’t get Bichette or Tucker, they can’t simply reallocate the money they would have spent on them elsewhere, as they’re being viewed as specific business cases, like Shohei Ohtani two winters ago. 

Again this is the same guy who said the Jays had $15-20M available to spend last winter and they ended up spending over $60M in 2025 payroll (not counting the trade deadline), so I'll take anything he says with a grain of salt but that's a surprisingly matter-of-fact statement.

"They can simply reallocate what they don't spend elsewhere." Is this guy getting paid by the word?

[max silver]

9 minutes ago, Omar said:

"They can simply reallocate what they don't spend elsewhere." Is this guy getting paid by the word?

This just doesn't make a lot of sense. If the Blue Jays don't choose to spend $200 million on Bo Bichette why would this disallow them from spending $150 on Alex Bregman? This argument seems logical enough in the context of Ohtani/Soto but for players firmly rooted in a lower tier it stops really making a lot of sense.

[hanton]

Devon Williams to the Mets

[hanton]

[Terminator]

8 minutes ago, hanton said:

That's too much for me

(If he signed with the Jays I would have said that he was a steal)

[hanton]

1 minute ago, Terminator said:

That's too much for me

(If he signed with the Jays I would have said that he was a steal)

same, to me he's not much of an upgrade over Hoffman

[Eat My Shatkins]

Hmm. I wonder if that means the Mets and Diaz are not reuniting, or will Williams just be another late inning bullpen piece?

[jmomcc]

3 years 50 something seems pretty good value honestly. I'd have been ok with that. 

[Laika]

5 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Hmm. I wonder if that means the Mets and Diaz are not reuniting, or will Williams just be another late inning bullpen piece?

Probably them pivoting from Diaz but we will see 

They have infinite money but that still closer money there 

[Pendleton]

Wow that's crazy to hear that we are signing Diaz 

[Eat My Shatkins]

2 minutes ago, Pendleton said:

Wow that's crazy to hear that we are signing Diaz 

Wut?

Don't play with me bro lol

[Pendleton]

8 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

3 years 50 something seems pretty good value honestly. I'd have been ok with that. 

Yeah it's high end reliever money for a high end reliever, for only three years I would have been totally fine with it. I'd take Robert Suarez on a similar contract 

 

 

[Terminator]

9 minutes ago, Laika said:

Probably them pivoting from Diaz but we will see 

They have infinite money but that still closer money there 

Yeah that's a lot of money for a reliever.

If they whiff on the top FAs I could see them falling back to Diaz but that would be crazy to spend 40 mil AAV on two relievers.

 

[hanton]

my choice in order.....

Diaz

Keller

Fairbanks

Suarez

 

 

[Brownie19]

Devin Williams did not come at any discount for his subpar performance last year.  That's full price right there.

[Brownie19]

10 minutes ago, hanton said:

my choice in order.....

Diaz

Keller

Fairbanks

Suarez

Keller is a name you don't hear mentioned a lot. He was fantastic last year in his first as a RPer.  Wonder what he's going to get.  He could be a value addition - although there's risk as he doesn't have a long track record.

Someone to consider if we don't have $13-15M AAV available to sign a top end closer.

[Jayzfan79]

Maybe this is a precursor to the trumpets coming to the Roger's Centre on the regular.

[Terminator]

Tyler Rogers would be a wise add

[Pendleton]

25 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Devin Williams did not come at any discount for his subpar performance last year.  That's full price right there.

The Diaz contract will work as a rough framework for what Williams could have perhaps been able to fetch with a more usual season by the latter's standards, both being the same age (31) and two of the most elite relievers prior to Williams dip. 

 

Williams may not have lost much in annual salary but perhaps in his total guarantee, with teams still willing to commit big reliever money in the short term but evidently not on a long term deal. A less questionable Williams may have ended up with an extra 30-40M 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Jayzfan79 said:

Maybe this is a precursor to the trumpets coming to the Roger's Centre on the regular.

🤔

[jmomcc]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

Tyler Rogers would be a wise add

He is projected 2/18. I'd love to do that. 

I'd also like Loaisaga as a reclamation project. Not sure what his market would be. 

[Olerud363.354]

7 hours ago, glory said:

One thing to keep in mind is that if the Blue Jays don’t get Bichette or Tucker, they can’t simply reallocate the money they would have spent on them elsewhere, as they’re being viewed as specific business cases, like Shohei Ohtani two winters ago. 

A Bichetteless/Tuckerless team had a pretty exciting run and made Rogers a tonne of money by first getting homefield advantage then playing almost every playoff homegame.   Ohtani was unique but business case for anyone else is just wins and deep playoff runs, so any means that gets that will be a good business case.

[Olerud363.354]

9 hours ago, bronson44 said:

I thought they had to put the value of the deferral in a bond. So say they have 20 million deferred to one player. They buy a bond for 20 million and keep whatever the extra money earned by the bond is making it benefit the team a little bit. 

I think there could be benefit (or a disadvantage) depending which way interest rates sway.  They buy the bond every year so if interest rates go up, the price of the bond goes down and they have some extra present day money.  If interest rates go down the opposite.  If there was ever dramatic interest rate changes (which there will be) team could get a bit screwed on this.  

10 year interest rates historically have been as high as 15% and as low as less than 1%.  When Ohtani signed his contract they were about 4.5% and haven't changed much since then.   

I am curious what happens if the 10 year swings dramatically say there is a financial crisis and it goes to 0.5%.  That would mean a 10 year bond that matures at 70 million could cost millions more, so practically speaking LA would have to pay more.  Not sure if it would change luxury tax calculations too. 

[mphenhef]

8 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Devin Williams did not come at any discount for his subpar performance last year.  That's full price right there.

Hader got 5 years and 95 million.  This is not full price.

[glory]

I think Diaz goes back to the Mets. He has a QO attached to him and I don’t think any team is giving him $80-100M and losing 2 picks on top of that. Relievers are just too volatile.

[jaysblue]

8 hours ago, Terminator said:

Tyler Rogers would be a wise add

Imagine the marketing Rogers could do for their cellphone and internet commercials!