[ALDS GM 4] Blue Jays (Varland) vs Yankees (Schlittler): 10/8/25, 7:08pm

[Jays24]

Just now, Stangstag said:

Why does the team “need it more” today over a game 5?

Because we have Yesavage going in Game 5 who shoved it up the Yankees asses while we're using Varland as an opener today after he gave up 2 bombs yesterday? 

[Terminator]

 

[Governator]

2 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

He sounds desperate saying everyone is available. He said the same thing about yesterday and he made too many quick decisions that he wouldn't do in the season.

[Stangstag]

3 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Because we have Yesavage going in Game 5 who shoved it up the Yankees asses while we're using Varland as an opener today after he gave up 2 bombs yesterday? 

That doesn’t make any sense man. Having both Gausman and Yesavage in game 5 probably gives us a much better chance in that game. 

[416BlueJs]

Yanks starting Goldy over Rice

[Masterbather]

9 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Because we have Yesavage going in Game 5 who shoved it up the Yankees asses while we're using Varland as an opener today after he gave up 2 bombs yesterday? 

Can't rule out the Blue Jays doing anything, I would save Gausman and Yesavage for a potential game 5. I think you have a better chance to win with them together then them apart because now you're relying on your bullpen in two games instead of mainly this one. Gausman I'm pretty sure I've heard or read that he doesn't like to pitch on short rest. He prefers long rest. 

I think you try to win the bullpen game and if it doesn't work, you have a great combination available for game 5. 

 

[Governator]

6 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

That doesn’t make any sense man. Having both Gausman and Yesavage in game 5 probably gives us a much better chance in that game. 

100% this. Just stick with the strategy, they played their asses off for home field advantage.  Give it your best in Games 3 and 4.  We've put up crooked numbers for 3 games in a row by our standards.  Just stay the course, varland, lauer, get Schlittler out by 5 innings and do what got you here. 

More than half our wins have come from behind, stop panicking.

[416BlueJs]

I’m confident we can hit Schlittler. We lit him up pretty good last outing. No way he repeats what he did against Boston.

I hope the Jays dig deep and prove us all wrong and end it tonight. Springer will need to contribute and solid defense is a must.

[Masterbather]

1 minute ago, Governator said:

100% this. Just stick with the strategy, they played their asses off for home field advantage.  Give it your best in Games 3 and 4.  We've put up crooked numbers for 3 games in a row by our standards.  Just stay the course, varland, lauer, get Schlittler out by 5 innings and do what got you here.

Realistically we have no chance to win a World Series without our bullpen getting its s*** together anyway. So don't hide from them, put them out there and see if they can get their mojo going. Because if they can't, we're going to end up f***ed anyway.

[Terminator]

Statistically, we had the best bullpen in baseball for the month of September if you take out Heineman's 10 run inning. They need to get back on track tonight. It could happen.

If not, we win Game 5.

[Orgfiller]

13 minutes ago, 416BlueJs said:

Yanks starting Goldy over Rice

Makes it especially important for Varland to give us two clean innings today. Get through Goldy against RHP once and then limit how many times he faces a lefty.

[G-Snarls]

 

 

[Ryu In My House]

If we're up 3-2 going to the bottom of the 8th, I would actually run Yesavage out there for two innings. 

[Stangstag]

5 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

 

 

Gonna give Schneider an aneurysm

[Stangstag]

4 minutes ago, Ryu In My House said:

If we're up 3-2 going to the bottom of the 8th, I would actually run Yesavage out there for two innings. 

Just do what we've been doing all year. I'm not really on board with all these crazy scenarios being discussed. Its not do or die for us.

[Stangstag]

12 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Statistically, we had the best bullpen in baseball for the month of September if you take out Heineman's 10 run inning. They need to get back on track tonight. It could happen.

If not, we win Game 5.

Yeah unfortunately this has started to look like the August version of the pen. Hopefully it was a 2-game blip.

[Rimar]

2 hours ago, glory said:

Using Varland for the 4th time in 5 days when I'm pretty sure they knew he was going to be the opener going into the series is strange. Why use him in a blow out in Game 2 then?

Last night's game was lost with IKF in the lineup. Not sure if that was a JS call or FO call, or maybe both, but the Baseball Gods were having none of it (IKF error in the 1st, and then the Barger error later in the game, when both are likely avoided with DS at 2B and Straw in the OF, which is the configuration many wanted to begin with). Unfortunately, a lefty is going in Game 5, so IKF starting in a do or die is a pretty safe bet. 

Win tonight so we don't have to deal with it. I'm not expecting it, I'm actually expecting a laugher for the Yanks unfortunately, but it's baseball, so hopefully baseball happens tonight and the Jays pull it out. 

Barger should only play RF, he's no a good 3B. And IKF should only be used as pinch runner.

[Terminator]

 

[G-Snarls]

All good except for putting Santander in RF again 

Wtf

[G-Snarls]

There's something up with Springer that they're not telling anyone 

[Stangstag]

2 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

Santander in RF over Springer again is kinda crazy lol.

Honestly that play from last night though he probably got fkd by the wind.

[glory]

11 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Gonna give Schneider an aneurysm

One thing for sure, Schneider going to bring in a LHP to face Bellinger despite the splits. Everything else remains to be seen. 

[G-Snarls]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

Santander in RF over Springer again is kinda crazy lol.

Honestly that play from last night though he probably got fkd by the wind.

Yes but I think Springer makes that catch most of the time if he's healthy 

Varsho makes it every time if he's got the same ball to deal with 

Statcast apparently said the play is 90% catch probability 

[Stangstag]

Just now, G-Snarls said:

There's something up with Springer that they're not telling anyone 

Possible. I remember he had a weird look on his face after hitting his homerun in game 162. I thought it was odd at the time. And he's been very reserved ever since.

[Stangstag]

Just now, G-Snarls said:

Yes but I think Springer makes that catch most of the time of he's healthy 

Varsho makes it every time if he's got the same ball to deal with 

I probably make that catch 9/10 times lol

[Brownie19]

8 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

I probably make that catch 9/10 times lol

And so does Tony.  

I don't know why we're all pretending that Springer is WAYYY better defensively than Tony is.  That opinion seems to have developed based on 1 play.  It's wild.

They play Tony in RF because he's as good as Springer defensively AND - more importantly - because they can sub in Straw late in the game.  They don't want to lose Springer's bat when Straw comes in - which is also why he's the DH.

And guys - Springer just had a MONSTER year as the DH, where he's talked about how that move gives him added preparation time and such - which clearly seems to have helped.

[Jonn]

Santander in RF again. On what planet is he better suited to play RF over Springer? Springer literally made starts in CF this season.

[Jays24]

Echo the same thoughts... best possible lineup except Santandar should be the DH.  Springer still has his speed and is twice the defender Santandar is. 

Only positive about Springer being a DH is that he remains in the entire game and doesnt get taken out early for Straw.  

[Jonn]

2 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

And so does Tony.  

I don't know why we're all pretending that Springer is WAYYY better defensively than Tony is.  That opinion seems to have developed based on 1 play.  It's wild.

They play Tony in RF because he's as good as Springer defensively AND - more importantly - because they can sub in Straw late in the game.  They don't want to lose Springer's bat when Straw comes in - which is also why he's the DH.

And guys - Springer just had a MONSTER year as the DH, where he's talked about how that move gives him added preparation time and such - which clearly seems to have helped.

This is the only reasoning that makes sense. But Santander should never see the field peroid.

[G-Snarls]

6 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

And so does Tony.  

I don't know why we're all pretending that Springer is WAYYY better defensively than Tony is.  That opinion seems to have developed based on 1 play.  It's wild.

They play Tony in RF because he's as good as Springer defensively AND - more importantly - because they can sub in Straw late in the game.  They don't want to lose Springer's bat when Straw comes in - which is also why he's the DH.

And guys - Springer just had a MONSTER year as the DH, where he's talked about how that move gives him added preparation time and such - which clearly seems to have helped.

Regular season it made sense (and it clearly worked) to keep him from playing too much in the OF

These 4 games though, barring injury I'd rather have Springer in RF than Santander for sure.  And most of us said it long before Santander missed that ball.