Davis Schneider appreciation thread

[Terminator]

Against lefties it’s easy, Schneider is in. Against righties you can rest Whit, Springer or even KK or Varsho. But Schneider should be playing close to every day.

[hanton]

at this point I'm thinking we should start sitting KK, Merrifield to LF and Schneider to 2nd

[hanton]

at worst he better play back to back next week vs Gore and Corbin, then vs Ty Black and Gomber

 

that's 4 starts next all vs lefties

[Spanky99]

JS said after the game, Davis will be in the game tomorrow. He's earned it.

[Masterbather]

at this point I'm thinking we should start sitting KK, Merrifield to LF and Schneider to 2nd

 

That's my first choice. Well, pulling Vladdy out of the lineup is my first choice but that's not going to happen. Or you could pull Varsho and keep KK in. Your defense is going to take a hit either way, but this kid needs to be seeing regular at bats until he proves he shouldn't be seeing regular at bats. Our offenses on life support we have to take the hit on defense.

[L54]

at this point I'm thinking we should start sitting KK, Merrifield to LF and Schneider to 2nd

 

Yup that makes the most sense. KK doesn’t need to start against every righty

 

Belt at 1B and Schneids at DH, 27 on the bench

[deanmike]

The lineup against RHP:

 

Merrifield 2B

Bo SS

Belt DH

Vlad 1B

Springer RF

Varsho LF

Chapman 3B

Jansen/Kirk C

Kiermaier CF

 

Who can you bench to give Schnieder a run of starts against RHP?

 

Chapman has been bad all August but was great in July. He has had a wildly streaky season but all things considered is just too good to bench.

Kiermaier? Varsho to CF and then Scheider is in left?

Easily KK. He isn't even part of the RHP lineup. He only starts against high-velo (95+) righties specifically because both Biggio and Schneider struggle with that, and in ballparks like Camden Yards where they want the extra defense in LF with Varsho instead of Whit. The RHP lineup was the one we saw on Thursday against Baltimore when they were desperate for some offense after the stinker the night before. Prior to this game, Varsho/KK had started every other game at Camden Yards this season in LF/CF:

 

LF Whit

SS Bo

DH Belt

1B Vlad

RF Springer

CF Varsho

3B Chapman

C Jansen/Kirk

2B Biggio

 

The most realistic way to get Schneider into this lineup almost everyday is if he just takes Biggio's spot at 2B, but reason why Biggio has been getting a lot more playing time against righties is because ever since he made some changes to his plate approach in mid-May, he has a 138 wRC+ vs RHP in 132 PA since then. On top of that he has a career 105 wRC+ vs RHP, so Schneider (John) up until this point has probably just been chickening out and deferring to Biggio's "consistent track record" over the possibility of what Davis could be with more consistent playing time.

[hanton]

Yup that makes the most sense. KK doesn’t need to start against every righty

 

Belt at 1B and Schneids at DH, 27 on the bench

 

You know they aren't sitting vlady, gotta be realistic here plus I'd still rather have his bat in the line-up than not

[saskjayfan]

Easily KK. He isn't even part of the RHP lineup. He only starts against high-velo (95+) righties specifically because both Biggio and Schneider struggle with that, and in ballparks like Camden Yards where they want the extra defense in LF with Varsho instead of Whit. The RHP lineup was the one we saw on Thursday against Baltimore when they were desperate for some offense after the stinker the night before. Prior to this game, Varsho/KK had started every other game at Camden Yards this season in LF/CF:

 

LF Whit

SS Bo

DH Belt

1B Vlad

RF Springer

CF Varsho

3B Chapman

C Jansen/Kirk

2B Biggio

 

The most realistic way to get Schneider into this lineup almost everyday is if he just takes Biggio's spot at 2B, but reason why Biggio has been getting a lot more playing time against righties is because ever since he made some changes to his plate approach in mid-May, he has a 138 wRC+ vs RHP in 132 PA since then. On top of that he has a career 105 wRC+ vs RHP, so Schneider (John) up until this point has probably just been chickening out and deferring to Biggio's "consistent track record" over the possibility of what Davis could be with more consistent playing time.

 

It's not one player. It's an awkward time of the year to play a rookie over veterans. Ruffling feathers and the like, but winning is paramount at this point. Whit, Chapman, KK, Varsho. I'd rotate through and that way everyone is just getting an off day and Snider keeps playing. Snider has been better against right handers all year and right now I'd sacrifice defence to get some offense in the lineup. A lot of pressure on the kid because he has 2 bad games at the plate, which isn't a sample size and he's on the bench. You also have a guy locked in fighting for playing time. He's just so patient. He'll take his walks. He could just be really good this young Snider. Players do come out of nowhere all the time. He could be the Jays good fortune. Run him out until he struggles.

[Eat My Shatkins]

You know they aren't sitting vlady, gotta be realistic here plus I'd still rather have his bat in the line-up than not

 

Yeah, as bad as Vlad has been he's still got the 3rd highest wRC+ of all the regular starters at 115. Which is f***ing pathetic for many reasons.

[max silver]

It's not one player. It's an awkward time of the year to play a rookie over veterans. Ruffling feathers and the like, but winning is paramount at this point. Whit, Chapman, KK, Varsho. I'd rotate through and that way everyone is just getting an off day and Snider keeps playing. Snider has been better against right handers all year and right now I'd sacrifice defence to get some offense in the lineup. A lot of pressure on the kid because he has 2 bad games at the plate, which isn't a sample size and he's on the bench. You also have a guy locked in fighting for playing time. He's just so patient. He'll take his walks. He could just be really good this young Snider. Players do come out of nowhere all the time. He could be the Jays good fortune. Run him out until he struggles.

 

Snider hasn't played for this team for a really long time and if I'm not mistaken he awhile ago.

[G-Snarls]

Have to unload at least 1-2 among

 

Espinal

Biggio

Merrifield

KK (if you keep Merrifield)

 

If Schneider is going to get regular playing time next year

[hanton]

Have to unload at least 1-2 among

 

Espinal

Biggio

Merrifield

KK (if you keep Merrifield)

 

If Schneider is going to get regular playing time next year

 

Merrifield is gone (unless we pick-up that epensive option but can't see Atkins doing that) - he'll go to the highest bidder, KK as well, espinal and biggio are both under control for at least 2024 so they aren't going anywhere

[G-Snarls]

Merrifield is gone - he'll go to the highest bidder, KK as well, espinal and biggio are both under control for at least 2024 so they aren't going anywhere

 

Espinal and Biggio also unfortunately probably have little trade value

[hanton]

Espinal and Biggio also unfortunately probably have little trade value

 

yea not much, a team like the Dodgers would take on players like this - see if they can do something with them

[JFD]

His swing reminds me a bit of Dustin Pedroia.

[G-Snarls]

His swing reminds me a bit of Dustin Pedroia.

 

Yes actually

 

Quick and powerful

 

Hits the ball pretty hard

[hanton]

His swing reminds me a bit of Dustin Pedroia.

 

yea a little, he'll need to be better with high FB, Pedroia was amazing at destroying those pitches

[JFD]

yea a little, he'll need to be better with high FB, Pedroia was amazing at destroying those pitches

 

I thought that was actually Pedroia's weakness along with inside pitches

[gruber92]

Merrifield is gone (unless we pick-up that epensive option but can't see Atkins doing that) - he'll go to the highest bidder, KK as well, espinal and biggio are both under control for at least 2024 so they aren't going anywhere

 

At the very least, Espinal will provide depth while playing in Buffalo. Clement should easily assume his role next year. Whomever is the GM come this winter will probably sign a few stop gap vets to fill some of the voids but should be replaceable if one or all of Barger/Lukes/Orelvis is smoking AAA in the first few months of the season. Schneider and Horowitz will be in the top eleven and will see steady playing time imo.

[G-Snarls]

Like every year:

 

Trade 4 Jose Ramirez

[hanton]

I swear I saw him point the bat to left before he hit that out. Babe

[hanton]

I thought that was actually Pedroia's weakness along with inside pitches

 

Just going off memory, it's before the statcast era so hard to find the data. Brooksbaseball has some zone data and middle, middle up and middle in were his zones

[Masterbather]

I thought that was actually Pedroia's weakness along with inside pitches

I absolutely remember him as being a good high fastball hitter. There were times I couldn't believe the pitches he was able to get to that were at his chin. Maybe it's just anecdotal, maybe he mostly missed those pictures and I just happened to see the times he didn't but I remember him being very good at it.

[keggy]

Schneider has a heavy uppercut in his swing, Pedroia was a line drive machine. He f***in destroyed high fastballs.

[The Cats Ass]

Looks like he's batting cleanup tonight.

[Terminator]

So it's extremely early with an extremely SSS that doesn't even qualify him, but the early returns on Babe's fielding, running and arm:

 

Fielding:

His fielding has been very good. 86% success rate with an estimated success rate of 83% at 2B. In LF it's 75% and 74%.

 

Arm Strength:

His max arm strength is 72.5 mph right now. That would be pretty atrocious but it's only 33 throws so far (4 in LF the rest at 2B) so he probably hasn't had to uncork anything yet. He's playing 3B tonight so we'll get a better look at his arm.

 

Sprint Speed:

27.4 ft/s which is 53rd percentile. With all the bombs he's hitting he hasn't had to run too hard so this could go up as well.

 

Also his Max EV so far is only 107.5 which is 30th percentile. In the minors though he hit one 109.7 which would put him in the 54th percentile.

[Omar]

Terminator is like an agent going into an arb hearing.

[Terminator]

Terminator is like an agent going into an arb hearing.

 

Well we all know he's good, I'm just trying to gauge whether he's an All-Star or Hall of Famer so I know how high I can let my expectations can get. I'm leaning Hall of Fame for now.

[John_Havok]

Well we all know he's good, I'm just trying to gauge whether he's an All-Star or Hall of Famer so I know how high I can let my expectations can get. I'm leaning Hall of Fame for now.

 

Sprint speed is only calculated on plays where they run hard, and it's only the fastest part of that run so sprint speed metrics do not vary all that much after a few qualified runs