JaysFan99 Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 What would we have to give up to get Skubal? I have a feeling the cost wouldn’t be worth it.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 13 minutes ago, JaysForever said: Let the Fantasy Trades Begin! 1. Skubal 2. Cease 3. Gausman 4. Yesavage 5. Bieber jaysblue 1
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 17 minutes ago, JaysFan99 said: What would we have to give up to get Skubal? I have a feeling the cost wouldn’t be worth it. It’ll be expensive, but the Tigers may have hurt their leverage by waiting to trade him in-season instead of during the offseason. The earlier-season injury doesn’t exactly help their case either. That said, adding Skubal to this rotation would be absolutely epic.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 Things I did not expect at this point in the season.... 1. Dalton Varsho is now our leading fWAR position player with 1.2 2. Brandon Valenzuela is our second highest fWAR pp with 0.9 (RIP Heiny when Kirk comes back) 3. Kaz Okamoto has better defense than offense so far 4. Ernie Clement has better offense than defense so far 5. Yohendrick Pinango is now our leader in wRC+ at 121, also has half the fWAR as Vlad in 1/4 the at bats. Also, Springer, Straw, Kirk, Barger, Lukes and Heineman combined for 19.1 fWAR last season, due to injury and underperformance they have combined for -0.2 fWAR so far this season. Oh baseball you crazy little bugger you. Stangstag, Spanky__99, Olerud363.354 and 1 other 4
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 Bloss with another 4 IP in Dunedin tonight. Couple weeks away?
jmomcc Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 36 minutes ago, John_Havok said: Bloss with another 4 IP in Dunedin tonight. Couple weeks away? I saw somewhere that he changed his arm angle (not sure if good or bad) and his velo is up (def good), but i'd expect more than a couple of weeks.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 11 hours ago, jaysblue said: It’ll be expensive, but the Tigers may have hurt their leverage by waiting to trade him in-season instead of during the offseason. The earlier-season injury doesn’t exactly help their case either. That said, adding Skubal to this rotation would be absolutely epic. Just can’t see the Jays beating whatever the Yanks/Dodgers will offer, especially not for a rental. Not their MO
jmomcc Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 In terms of a right hand bat right now and not at the deadline, i did a quick search. In triple A, over .200 iso, 26 or over (post prospects), over 10% walk rate and under 25% k rate, and right handed or switch. The list is Jose Barrero, Davis Wendzel, Brennen Davis, Brewer Hicklen, Buddy Kennedy, Stuart Fairchild. Of that list only Wendzel, Davis and Hicklen have options. Davis is corner outfield only i'd say, but has the longest history of hitting for power. Wendzel is first/third, and Hicklen is outfield only. I'd see if Seattle would take a small prospect for Davis and see if he can take Sosa's spot.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 9 hours ago, John_Havok said: Bloss with another 4 IP in Dunedin tonight. Couple weeks away? I certainly hope so as the rotation desperately needs another arm.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 Bieber did 2 innings in first rehab start in complex today. Brownie19 1
HomeRunHomer Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I would have DFA'd Sosa first but he should be gone soon enough too.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted May 25 Posted May 25 4 minutes ago, glory said: Sucks but DS has work to do offensively
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted May 25 Posted May 25 1 minute ago, HomeRunHomer said: I would have DFA'd Sosa first but he should be gone soon enough too. When Barger is back for sure
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 Finally, we don't have to witness any more DS ab's.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 It's not just the Jays who can't find right handed OF bats. The entire league is struggling.
Olerud363.354 Verified Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 28 minutes ago, Terminator said: It's not just the Jays who can't find right handed OF bats. The entire league is struggling. What if you used wRC+ or something? The league OPS is like .705 which is also the lowest in a while. So not too far below it really, but maybe in most years the right handed hitting outfielders were above the average.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said: What if you used wRC+ or something? The league OPS is like .705 which is also the lowest in a while. So not too far below it really, but maybe in most years the right handed hitting outfielders were above the average. Yeah that's a pretty good point, although like you said you would think OFers would be above average as a position group, not worse. G-Snarls 1
Laika Community Moderator Posted May 26 Posted May 26 21 minutes ago, Terminator said: It's not just the Jays who can't find right handed OF bats. The entire league is struggling. Really interesting. Couple of ideas: 1. Defensive limitations push every lefty thrower (almost all lefty hitters) into OF/DH/1B (but this is not new) 2. The perpetual grind for that extra 2% (RIP Jonah Keri) leads more and more teams to platoon. Corner outfield spots are prime platoon spots because of defensive reasons and the availability of human capital. And because lefty hitters are the "strong side" of the platoon teams prioritize their development and try to keep them around because in theory the team can and will get more use/value out of them. BUT IF EVERY TEAM DOES #2 THEN AT THE LEAGUE LEVEL THERE WILL BE A SHORTAGE OF WELL-DEVELOPED RIGHT HANDED HITTING OUTFIELDERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Kind of hilarious Every team in baseball decided to ignore the fungible roster spot, that weak side platoon corner outfielder, and now none of them exist. Randal Grichuk will have work until he's 45. jaysblue, Terminator and Spanky__99 2 1
Gen.Disarray Old-Timey Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 Speaking of lefties, curious. What's the most you would give up for Skubal? And assuming he was made available, whats the most you'd give up for Yordan? And would you include Yesavage in a package if necessary?
Laika Community Moderator Posted May 26 Posted May 26 4 minutes ago, Gen.Disarray said: Speaking of lefties, curious. What's the most you would give up for Skubal? And assuming he was made available, whats the most you'd give up for Yordan? And would you include Yesavage in a package if necessary? Yordan is a monster but I would guess that Yesavage has more projected surplus/trade value. YA is under control for 2027 and 2028 at $26M a year. He is an injury risk, typically.
JaysForever Verified Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 2 hours ago, Terminator said: It's not just the Jays who can't find right handed OF bats. The entire league is struggling. It may be in the interest of some RH bats to learn how to play corner outfield.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Miss the Frank Catalanotto and Reed Johnson platoon the Jays had for those 4 years. Looks like Randal Grichuk is going to have a hot trading market this summer.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 27 Posted May 27 10 hours ago, bronson44 said: Having a good start in AAA. I bet he sees action against the Orioles. I could see Lee and Andrews getting the boot and Bowman and a starter getting called up. Orgfiller 1
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Terminator said: Having a good start in AAA. I bet he sees action against the Orioles. I could see Lee and Andrews getting the boot and Bowman and a starter getting called up. Really? This guy looks awful. He lost 3+ MPH on his fastball last year - averaging 90.5 MPH warm piss as a RPer. Surely we have better options?
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 27 Posted May 27 27 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: Really? This guy looks awful. He lost 3+ MPH on his fastball last year - averaging 90.5 MPH warm piss as a RPer. Surely we have better options? I think some of the velo has returned. Was sitting 92-93 in his last MiLB game. I'm not saying he's good but while we are running two bullpen games every 5 days I think we are going to have to pump and dump the back of the bullpen types for fresh arms as much as we can. Especially while Nance and Mantiply are out. Andrews was already dumped for Austin Voth who will be gone the second he's deemed unavailable to pitch. Bowman could take his spot. Brownie19 1
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Interesting to hear Miles Straw and Valenzuela were taking some ground balls on the infield. Been thinking about it lately that Valenzuela bat might be good enough to keep in the lineup when Kirk is back.
Laika Community Moderator Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Just now, Slade said: Interesting to hear Miles Straw and Valenzuela were taking some ground balls on the infield. Been thinking about it lately that Valenzuela bat might be good enough to keep in the lineup when Kirk is back. They need to figure something out Something isn't right with Ernie's 2B defense. The team's best defensive alignment probably has him at 3B. The backup infielder on the roster is the worst hitter in baseball and he can only play 2B and 1B (poorly, at that) Schneider could not hit at all, and can only cover 2B anyway Barger is hurt but even when he is back he can only cover 3B, so he just allows you to maybe play Okamoto at 1B sometimes AAA has McAdoo as a maybe 3B/1B option and Kasevich as a light hitting no power MIF option but both of these guys are likely nothingburgers and they have no MLB experience Any interesting AAA prospect is a corner outfielder (Schreck, mainly). The only interesting MIF prospect anywhere close to MLB is Nimmala They really need an option to emerge that can at least cover 2B or SS and provide MLB quality depth there. Nobody exists at the moment. Myles Straw is an athletic freak, he can probably play second base. Range for days.
JaysFan99 Verified Member Posted May 27 Posted May 27 24 minutes ago, Slade said: Interesting to hear Miles Straw and Valenzuela were taking some ground balls on the infield. Been thinking about it lately that Valenzuela bat might be good enough to keep in the lineup when Kirk is back. They're also trying to get McAdoo reps at 2B. He probably isn't any good, but worth a look over Sosa at this point.
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