Blue Jays-Dodgers World Series Game 3 Thread: Max Scherzer vs. Tyler Glasnow

[Laika]

2 minutes ago, Omar said:

Don't kid yourself folks, Ohtani won't be fatigued in the least.

First of all the guy is physical specimen. He could probably participate in a marathon today and still play the game tonight. 

Secondly half of the game last night consisted of him walking to the batters box and then being walked to first base.

Don't pin your hopes on this type of stuff.

Sorry to say. 

Well, he did mildly pull his hamstring or something AND he had to stay up late. 

Hope

[SeranthonySantander]

Just now, Laika said:

Well, he did mildly pull his hamstring or something AND he had to stay up late. 

Hope

f*** that guy seriously.  I don’t care if he brings in more fans, those are the fans we don’t need.  I hope we never see him play again and he goes to prison.

[Olerud363.354]

2 minutes ago, Laika said:

Olerud is a Hall of Fame poster but many simply cannot understand him. 

It's like trying to read Infinite Jest.

I think with the Ohtani thing Reynolds is in my head.  Harold Reynolds.  On MLB network he says we woke up Ohtani with the pick-off.  Not the chant.  It was a weird thing.  But I watched it at like 6:30 yesterday and laughed.  As if Lauer "woke-up" Ohtani with a pick-off attempt. 

I thought Harold Reynolds is an idiot.  Players don't fall a sleep.  Ohtani as a hitter is halfway between Judge and Schwarber.  Can get him out with a good game plan.  Just as you can get Judge out.  Judge struck out with bases loaded.  Judge sometimes hit harmless singles before Bellinger strike-outs.    

Then Ohtani goes 9 for 9 in on base with 12 total bases.  Harold was right.   He was asleep and now he is a wake and quite literally Reynolds said it was the pick-off attempt.... not the chant. 

[Omar]

So in post game interviews JS insisted they told SerA to pitch around Ohtani hoping he would chase. Yeah, holding up four fingers would have been easier but I don't consider that an egregious error on Schneider's part. The player didn't execute; JS gets some blame but definitely not all. 

Re Springer:  I think he will be in the lineup tonight. In fact he probably has a small Japanese woman walking on his back right now getting the kinks out. Fear not. 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, ComeTogether said:

 

 

JS not walking Ohtani after the 1st AB of the game was baffling, to letting him punish us in 3 straight more AB's then shifting to auto walk the rest of the way is another that leaves you saying wtf, man?

[Olerud363.354]

14 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said:

Is there a go fund me to send spanky to the 6th game?  I’ll put in $10.  Was going to start it myself but it will look like a scam if I do it.

Where do you want to seat him?   Just pay yourself.   Get him good seats for 10 grand, you get the money back if no game 6.  Then you have set up a win-win.   LA wins next two you can laugh and be relieved you aren't out 10 grand.  Jays win a game it sucks but we get baseball in Toronto Friday night.

Of course that just means we get to watch a Yamamato shut out Friday or something.

So I guess we have to buy tickets we can't afford for game 6 and 7.   Dodgers probably still win in 7, everyone is bankrupt, but even losing in 7 after the 18 inning game would make the season the most epic in history. 

[John_Havok]

Missed the game last night. Was it good?

[Olerud363.354]

6 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Get him good seats for 10 grand, you get the money back if no game 6. 

You probably want to go to.  Get tickets for yourself, Spanky and Grant for games 6 and 7.   100 level.  60 grand.  I think Grant is mad at Spanky so need to bring them back together.  

I think 60 grand Canadian isn't what it used to be.  Like you could get maybe a RAV4 for that but tickets to game 7 with Spanky and Grant is better.  2007 RAV4 for $4000 and the tickets > 2026 Rav4.  My friend has a 2007 RAV4 and says he will be able to keep it going until 2035. 

[Brownie19]

34 minutes ago, Omar said:

Don't kid yourself folks, Ohtani won't be fatigued in the least.

First of all the guy is physical specimen. He could probably participate in a marathon today and still play the game tonight. 

Secondly half of the game last night consisted of him walking to the batters box and then being walked to first base.

Don't pin your hopes on this type of stuff.

Sorry to say. 

I'd have liked to see them put a couple of balls in his f*cking ear instead of holding up 4 fingers.

[SeranthonySantander]

3 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

I'd have liked to see them put a couple of balls in his f*cking ear instead of holding up 4 fingers.

POY finalist.  We are being too nice.  

[Olerud363.354]

4 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

I'd have liked to see them put a couple of balls in his f*cking ear instead of holding up 4 fingers.

No idea if Dominguez was trying to go inside or outside when he threw the cookie down the middle to Ohtani in the 7th.  Whichever way he missed by a foot. 

Hitting his ear might be a bit extreme, but if trying to go inside and you miss, miss hitting his back, not the middle of the plate. 

[Laika]

6 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

I'd have liked to see them put a couple of balls in his f*cking ear instead of holding up 4 fingers.

I was thinking this last night

You are going to let a guy go 4 for 4 with 7 walks or whatever in one game? At some point you need to just throw 100% fastballs at his hands. You need to make him uncomfortable and if you hit him so what. There is no way to win the series if he is that locked in and you walk him every time. 

The only reason the game went on so long last night is that Mookie Betts sucks. He's Ernie Clement now, on a $365M contract and trying to protect Ohtani. 

[Stangstag]

47 minutes ago, Omar said:

So in post game interviews JS insisted they told SerA to pitch around Ohtani hoping he would chase. Yeah, holding up four fingers would have been easier but I don't consider that an egregious error on Schneider's part. The player didn't execute; JS gets some blame but definitely not all. 

Re Springer:  I think he will be in the lineup tonight. In fact he probably has a small Japanese woman walking on his back right now getting the kinks out. Fear not. 

Meatball down the middle lol. His control is really that bad haha

[hanton]

13 minutes ago, Laika said:

I was thinking this last night

You are going to let a guy go 4 for 4 with 7 walks or whatever in one game? At some point you need to just throw 100% fastballs at his hands. You need to make him uncomfortable and if you hit him so what. There is no way to win the series if he is that locked in and you walk him every time. 

The only reason the game went on so long last night is that Mookie Betts sucks. He's Ernie Clement now, on a $365M contract and trying to protect Ohtani. 

Yep.  batted 1st or 2nd the entire year, Roberts refuses to move him down.  huge hole in the top of that lineup.  fine by us though - leave him there

[Stangstag]

49 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I think with the Ohtani thing Reynolds is in my head.  Harold Reynolds.  On MLB network he says we woke up Ohtani with the pick-off.  Not the chant.  It was a weird thing.  But I watched it at like 6:30 yesterday and laughed.  As if Lauer "woke-up" Ohtani with a pick-off attempt. 

I thought Harold Reynolds is an idiot.  Players don't fall a sleep.  Ohtani as a hitter is halfway between Judge and Schwarber.  Can get him out with a good game plan.  Just as you can get Judge out.  Judge struck out with bases loaded.  Judge sometimes hit harmless singles before Bellinger strike-outs.    

Then Ohtani goes 9 for 9 in on base with 12 total bases.  Harold was right.   He was asleep and now he is a wake and quite literally Reynolds said it was the pick-off attempt.... not the chant. 

Maybe he was just getting hot in the previous 3 homer game?? And he homered in game 1 here.

I dont buy this BS narrative.

[Olerud363.354]

10 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

I dont buy this BS narrative

Yeah totally agree.   Guys like Harold Reynolds always make ******** narratives then it stands out when they time it right. 

It wasn't Harold, but after Yankees won game 3 9-6 their was a lot of ******** naratives "shouldn't have let them win one", "you let us win one, now it's over".

All forgotten.  

 

[Brownie19]

14 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Maybe he was just getting hot in the previous 3 homer game?? And he homered in game 1 here.

I dont buy this BS narrative.

100%

TV/Radio personalities make crap up like this all the time for clicks and views.  It's nonsense.

[Olerud363.354]

2 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

100%

TV/Radio personalities make crap up like this all the time for clicks and views.  It's nonsense.

They construct multiple narratives and then double down on the one is that is right.  If Ohtani is good tonight the Ohtani god woken up with pickoff/chants narrative will annoy the muck out of me.

If Jays are scrappy with Clement and Jiminez 94 mph hits in the right spot the 'they don't strike out' narrative will start gaining a little more steam.

[Landry_25]

1 minute ago, Olerud363.354 said:

They construct multiple narratives and then double down on the one is that is right.  If Ohtani is good tonight the Ohtani god woken up with pickoff/chants narrative will annoy the muck out of me.

If Jays are scrappy with Clement and Jiminez 94 mph hits in the right spot the 'they don't strike out' narrative will start gaining a little more steam.

Yep even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes lol

[jmomcc]

52 minutes ago, Laika said:

I was thinking this last night

You are going to let a guy go 4 for 4 with 7 walks or whatever in one game? At some point you need to just throw 100% fastballs at his hands. You need to make him uncomfortable and if you hit him so what. There is no way to win the series if he is that locked in and you walk him every time. 

The only reason the game went on so long last night is that Mookie Betts sucks. He's Ernie Clement now, on a $365M contract and trying to protect Ohtani. 

Honestly this. He's also the next day starting pitcher. Throw at his hands. If he hits it out so be it. 

[Terminator]

A lot has been made out of the coaching decisions last night but I thought almost everything they did was the right move.

• Febles:
  • IKF send to third:
    • The ball didn’t get as far after hitting Freeman’s glove as you might expect and it took a great play from Edman.
    • If he’s safe, he probably scores with Kirk up next and one out.
  • Schneider send to home:
    • It was risky but I think the odds are better with Schneider trying to score than IKF at the plate with two outs.

• Schneider:
  • Pinch running for Kirk:
    • Easy call. Kirk is slow and may have tweaked something.
    • He wasn’t going to catch 18 innings anyway and would have been pinch ran for at some point. That was a good time.
  • Pinch running for Barger:
    • Bad move. Barger has above average sprint speed and was only on first.
    • Took Barger's bat out of the lineup and burned Straw, who could’ve run for France later instead of Schneider.

 

[mphenhef]

2 hours ago, Laika said:

Well, he did mildly pull his hamstring or something AND he had to stay up late. 

Hope

Keep in mind the game was a long game but still ended before midnight local time.

[Big_Walleye]

2 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

I'd have liked to see them put a couple of balls in his f*cking ear instead of holding up 4 fingers.

This should have happened in game 2 after Springer got hit and make sure to tell Yamamoto that it's on him.   Kill 2 birds with one stone.

[gruber9292]

17 minutes ago, Big_Walleye said:

This should have happened in game 2 after Springer got hit and make sure to tell Yamamoto that it's on him.   Kill 2 birds with one stone.

I would definitely be giving Ohtani a rib sandwich and then tell him to wave his arms back and forth 

[Terminator]

God that Lukes vs. Kershaw AB is still killing me.

If he takes that walk we not only score the run but it's Vlad vs. Kershaw with the bases loaded. 

[Brownie19]

8 minutes ago, Terminator said:

God that Lukes vs. Kershaw AB is still killing me.

If he takes that walk we not only score the run but it's Vlad vs. Kershaw with the bases loaded. 

100% pivotal moment.  The was the only batter they trusted Kershaw to face.  Lukes battled, but lost.

[Laika]

The game had like, 46 pivotal moments

[HomeRunHomer]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

A lot has been made out of the coaching decisions last night but I thought almost everything they did was the right move.

• Febles:
  • IKF send to third:
    • The ball didn’t get as far after hitting Freeman’s glove as you might expect and it took a great play from Edman.
    • If he’s safe, he probably scores with Kirk up next and one out.
  • Schneider send to home:
    • It was risky but I think the odds are better with Schneider trying to score than IKF at the plate with two outs.

• Schneider:
  • Pinch running for Kirk:
    • Easy call. Kirk is slow and may have tweaked something.
    • He wasn’t going to catch 18 innings anyway and would have been pinch ran for at some point. That was a good time.
  • Pinch running for Barger:
    • Bad move. Barger has above average sprint speed and was only on first.
    • Took Barger's bat out of the lineup and burned Straw, who could’ve run for France later instead of Schneider.

 

I would also say the plan to pitch around Ohtani instead of just giving him the IBB was also a bad call. It's an unnecessary, telegraphed fancy play that immediately backfired. Do they really think that Ohtani is dumb enough to swing at pitches off the plate moments after you've had a mound conference? Unless he's a dumb hitter, which I've seen no evidence of,  he is going look for a mistake and park it which is exactly what he did.

That grooved fastball was something else tho LOL.

[Terminator]

14 minutes ago, HomeRunHomer said:

I would also say the plan to pitch around Ohtani instead of just giving him the IBB was also a bad call. It's an unnecessary, telegraphed fancy play that immediately backfired. Do they really think that Ohtani is dumb enough to swing at pitches off the plate moments after you've had a mound conference? Unless he's a dumb hitter, which I've seen no evidence of,  he is going look for a mistake and park it which is exactly what he did.

That grooved fastball was something else tho LOL.

Yeah, that was a questionable call.

Dominguez can’t handle lefties and has no command, so it was risky to use him against the top of the lineup.

If you walk Ohtani, Freeman’s guaranteed to hit, which isn't great. And even if Ohtani goes deep, it only ties the game. So even though it backfired, the worst case scenario was a tie game and the Jays just couldn't do anything in the next 11 friggin innings.

Still, having a mound visit to tell him to pitch around Ohtani and then throwing it right down the middle is a joke.

 

 

 

 

[HomeRunHomer]

24 minutes ago, Terminator said:

God that Lukes vs. Kershaw AB is still killing me.

If he takes that walk we not only score the run but it's Vlad vs. Kershaw with the bases loaded. 

In my opinion he protected the plate too much in that situation.  A walk was so important that striking out looking at a close pitch is a risk you can take especially when it was a lefty vs lefty match up that Lukes doesn't have power numbers against. Obviously really hard in the moment so I don't blame him that much but man that was so pivotal.