General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[mphenhef]

How sweet will it be if Bo can make it back for the postseason?  An indicator of the type of year he was having.  He's missed the last two weeks and still leads the majors in both hits and dboules.

[saskjayfan]

1 hour ago, mphenhef said:

How sweet will it be if Bo can make it back for the postseason?  An indicator of the type of year he was having.  He's missed the last two weeks and still leads the majors in both hits and dboules.

I think it's highly likely Bo is back for the playoffs.  We just need to win the division and give him a couple more days.

[Masterbather]

22 minutes ago, saskjayfan said:

I think it's highly likely Bo is back for the playoffs.  We just need to win the division and give him a couple more days.

I wonder if his value to the FO has gone up given what our offense has looked like without him.

But he's got to move to second base, it's non-negotiable.

[Jays24]

38 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

I wonder if his value to the FO has gone up given what our offense has looked like without him.

But he's got to move to second base, it's non-negotiable.

Thats going to be the balance that will be tough to find with Bo.  Hes going to want to get paid as a SS but then play as a 2B. 

He will have a lot of leverage considering him and Tucker are the best position players on the market.  I definitely want him back as our 2B so hope it happens. 

[Jays24]

Guess we will hear Santander being activated for Loperfido today/tomorrow.

The real sad part will be seeing France or IKF DFA'd for Bo when we gotta finalize our playoff roster.  Im sure they must have had a blast during the celebrations.  

[Eat My Shatkins]

After 3 years of rebuilding, Shatkins teams have since gone 468-396 (.541 win%) over 6 seasons now with a 4th playoff appearance clinched in those 6 seasons. Pretty not bad.

Only blip was last year where 90% of the team underperformed for some reason.

Hopefully this is the season where we get some playoff wins.

[Laika]

6 games left for everybody. 

Still some mathematically possible "weirdness" as there always is in baseball. See below. However, remote chance that any of that matters.

All that *probably* matters is the Yankees. 2 game lead with a tiebreaker. That makes the magic number 4. 

4-2 and there is nothing the Yankees can do. 

3-3 or worse and the Yankees could flip it. 3-3 and NYY needs to go 6-0; 2-4 and NYY needs to go 5-1. 

Shame the useless O's could not walk it off in the 9th last night. 

Weirdness:

• Boston could pass Toronto. Would need to go 6-0 while Toronto goes 0-6. 
• Houston could tie/pass Toronto. Would need to go 6-0 while Toronto goes 0-6. Houston has this tiebreaker.
• Cleveland could tie Toronto. They are tied 3-3 in the regular season. Not sure who has the tiebreaker then? I read that CLE does because of divisional record, lol. 
• I think Toronto could still technically end up as the third best division winner, but it would take some very unlikely shuffling. e.g., Toronto going 0-6, Yankees going 2-4, then Settle going 4-2 and Detroit going 6-0. Something wild like that. 
• So, every other playoff team and Houston could individually still catch Toronto, but Toronto locked in a spot because Cleveland and Detroit still play each other, i,e, they can't *all* pass Toronto. 

It is kind of too bad that there aren't more matchups remaining between these teams. Cleveland v Detroit is big, but other than that there is a lot of scoreboard watching and contenders finishing out their years playing puff ball teams. Yes Boston plays both Toronto and Detroit but I am not sure those head to head matchups are significant. 

On the NL side, the only think to watch is the Mets fall apart while the Reds sneak into the playoffs. Hilarious s*** from the Mets. 

[Jays24]

39 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

After 3 years of rebuilding, Shatkins teams have since gone 468-396 (.541 win%) over 6 seasons now with a 4th playoff appearance clinched in those 6 seasons. Pretty not bad.

Only blip was last year where 90% of the team underperformed for some reason.

Hopefully this is the season where we get some playoff wins.

That is really good but ultimately they will be judged on their playoff success.  If we flame out and cant even win a single playoff game and also do it in embarrassing fashion then the pitchforks will be out again. 

Hoping this year will be different simply because every team in the AL (except Seattle) isnt that scary.    

[Stangstag]

If the Jays can go 3-3 you have to feel pretty comfortable. That leaves the Yankees with 0 margin for error.

Pretty confident we can do it. I really dislike giving Scherzer another start though, we’ll see. Hopefully last start was a blip.

[Omar]

My concern is for Bo to get some ab's before the season ends. That seems completely unlikely at this point. He is the type of guy that needs reps to get his swing going. Just need his bat to be competent.

[Governator]

Just keep winning, I'm glad today is an off day because of the inevitable hangovers.

[Laika]

9 minutes ago, Omar said:

My concern is for Bo to get some ab's before the season ends. That seems completely unlikely at this point. He is the type of guy that needs reps to get his swing going. Just need his bat to be competent.

Vlad and Bo injuries really screwed up the Jays offense

Bo was on fire. 

Vlad was too before his little hammy strain. He has been pretty bad since. .300/.351/.400 for a measly 109 wRC+ and only 2 homers in those 111 AB. 
A really empty batting average! 

Dude had a 180 wRC+ for the two months prior to getting hurt. 
 

 

[John_Havok]

46 minutes ago, Laika said:

Vlad and Bo injuries really screwed up the Jays offense

Bo was on fire. 

Vlad was too before his little hammy strain. He has been pretty bad since. .300/.351/.400 for a measly 109 wRC+ and only 2 homers in those 111 AB. 
A really empty batting average! 

Dude had a 180 wRC+ for the two months prior to getting hurt. 
 

 

It's also one of those things that makes me wonder about getting the bye... obviously you want it, youre' one round further into the playoffs, but... that layoff can really mess with hitter's timing, which is such a massive part of hitting, not to mention pitcher rust which some of our guys have a real issue with. 

Vlad's timing gets obliterated with even the shortest layoffs of a few games even when he is healthy. 

[Jays24]

11 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

It's also one of those things that makes me wonder about getting the bye... obviously you want it, youre' one round further into the playoffs, but... that layoff can really mess with hitter's timing, which is such a massive part of hitting, not to mention pitcher rust which some of our guys have a real issue with. 

Vlad's timing gets obliterated with even the shortest layoffs of a few games even when he is healthy. 

Sorry but give me the bye 10 times out of 10.  Playing in the wildcard hasn't really helped Vlad/Bo in the past lol. 

[Stangstag]

25 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

It's also one of those things that makes me wonder about getting the bye... obviously you want it, youre' one round further into the playoffs, but... that layoff can really mess with hitter's timing, which is such a massive part of hitting, not to mention pitcher rust which some of our guys have a real issue with. 

Vlad's timing gets obliterated with even the shortest layoffs of a few games even when he is healthy. 

Or…. That time off can let them heal and feel fresh again. You really never know 

[John_Havok]

Just now, Stangstag said:

Or…. That time off can let them heal and feel fresh again. You really never know 

Lots of possibilities. 

It's still really small sample size, but i wonder what the numbers are from hitters on teams in the first few games of the DS after they had the bye and the other team had to play consistently through the WC. 

Or for hitters teams who had long layoffs between the DS and CS, or CS and WS. 

 

[mphenhef]

41 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

It's also one of those things that makes me wonder about getting the bye... obviously you want it, youre' one round further into the playoffs, but... that layoff can really mess with hitter's timing, which is such a massive part of hitting, not to mention pitcher rust which some of our guys have a real issue with. 

Vlad's timing gets obliterated with even the shortest layoffs of a few games even when he is healthy. 

I personally want the home field advantage more than the bye.  I think it is worth it.

[Jays24]

Does anyone have access to Jays playoff tickets?  Seems like the first divisional home games should be Oct 4/5.  

[max silver]

47 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Lots of possibilities. 

It's still really small sample size, but i wonder what the numbers are from hitters on teams in the first few games of the DS after they had the bye and the other team had to play consistently through the WC. 

Or for hitters teams who had long layoffs between the DS and CS, or CS and WS. 

 

I think the tradeoff is well worth it to give Bo a better chance to be ready for the post season. I think the Trajekt machines can be a big difference maker in allowing the hitters to maintain their timing more effectively compared to prior seasons.

[glory]

I'll 100% take the bye and risk whatever timing or "too much rest" issues that come out of it. In this case the extra 5 days will give Bo a chance to get better, and that's very important to this team's ability to move beyond the first round. Even the 2015 team that was loaded lost the first 2 games of the ALDS that year. If that was a 3 game series then that team is forgotten about rather than romanticized. Take the bye and whatever happens from there is what it is. 

[Stangstag]

21 minutes ago, glory said:

I'll 100% take the bye and risk whatever timing or "too much rest" issues that come out of it. In this case the extra 5 days will give Bo a chance to get better, and that's very important to this team's ability to move beyond the first round. Even the 2015 team that was loaded lost the first 2 games of the ALDS that year. If that was a 3 game series then that team is forgotten about rather than romanticized. Take the bye and whatever happens from there is what it is. 

Yep great point about the 2015 squad. Almost mounted a comeback in the ALCS too, if it werent for the umpires absolutely bending us over.

[max silver]

21 minutes ago, glory said:

I'll 100% take the bye and risk whatever timing or "too much rest" issues that come out of it. In this case the extra 5 days will give Bo a chance to get better, and that's very important to this team's ability to move beyond the first round. Even the 2015 team that was loaded lost the first 2 games of the ALDS that year. If that was a 3 game series then that team is forgotten about rather than romanticized. Take the bye and whatever happens from there is what it is. 

I think giving Bassitt a chance to recover from the back issues may be very important as well. The team will need to run a 4 rotation in the ALDS if they don't want their starters pitching on short rest and I believe Bassitt is firmly in the top 4 options. 

[Stangstag]

28 minutes ago, max silver said:

I think giving Bassitt a chance to recover from the back issues may be very important as well. The team will need to run a 4 rotation in the ALDS if they don't want their starters pitching on short rest and I believe Bassitt is firmly in the top 4 options. 

Dont need 4 starters if you sweep though ha

[infinitebook]

I like ESPN's site for their box scores, but man their coverage outside of the big market US teams is quite terrible. They released a breakdown of the rotations of contenders today. On the part on the Blue Jays, they just say they have "4 solid starters" without a "true ace". No mention of Gausman's dominant 2nd half, Bassitt's back injury, Max turning into a pumpkin. Then talks about how Yesavage will probably come out of the bullpen. 

Can it be any more obvious this author just quickly checked the Jays stats page before writing this. 

[jaysblue]

2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Does anyone have access to Jays playoff tickets?  Seems like the first divisional home games should be Oct 4/5.  

When do they go on sale to the general public?

[Brownie19]

19 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

When do they go on sale to the general public?

I haven't seen anything on this yet either.  I suspect they won't go on sale until it's confirmed whether we win the division or slip into a WC spot.  I hope those dates/times are plastered all over this board once determined!

[Masterbather]

2 hours ago, infinitebook said:

I like ESPN's site for their box scores, but man their coverage outside of the big market US teams is quite terrible. They released a breakdown of the rotations of contenders today. On the part on the Blue Jays, they just say they have "4 solid starters" without a "true ace". No mention of Gausman's dominant 2nd half, Bassitt's back injury, Max turning into a pumpkin. Then talks about how Yesavage will probably come out of the bullpen. 

Can it be any more obvious this author just quickly checked the Jays stats page before writing this. 

I thought Detroit was ranked a little bit too high but otherwise thought the rankings were pretty fair.

[jaysblue]

8 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

I haven't seen anything on this yet either.  I suspect they won't go on sale until it's confirmed whether we win the division or slip into a WC spot.  I hope those dates/times are plastered all over this board once determined!

I'm also keeping an eye out on Detroit Tigers Postseason Tickets for when they go on sale, or even Cleveland if they sneak in. Wouldn't be as expensive in comparison to Jays Postseason ticket prices and both are doable for a weekend road trip from Toronto. 

For games in Toronto, just going to try and get tickets for the World Series round. 

[Jonn]

Kind of crazy that the first time Jose Berrios missed a start in his career because he was removed from the rotation. No injuries. Always took his turn in the rotation. That should be applauded. Unfortunately he has been terrible this Season. His overall Season numbers don’t tell that story. But his underlying numbers speak volumes.

He’s obviously not happy with the decision but won’t be a distraction right now. It will be interesting to see if they try to move him this off-season to a team looking for an innings eater. Not sure if they will be able to move him without eating money however.

[Jonn]

48 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

When do they go on sale to the general public?

I got an email from American Express this morning that they will reserve tickets for me per request but I’m not going to be in the country. I would probably pull the trigger on World Series tickets and come home for that. But don’t want to get ahead of myself.