Osuna Closer; Leon, Biagini, Tepera make pen; Ceciliani Optioned

[Jonn]

Wow this is pretty much worst case scenario when it came to the bullpen and 4th outfielder spot. You may as well come out and say if you have options you aren't going to make the team. Both Ceciliani and Venditte deserved to make this team.

 

Not making Storen the closer is confusing as well but keeping s*** like Leon and Carrea is just annoying. Tepera Is just a head scratcher.

[Pendleton]

Could the deal with Ceciliani be that they are still working on some sort of adjustment and want him to get another month or two of regular AB's before he joins the team in a bench role? Otherwise it's a tough move to justify, he at least shows some potential, whereas Zeke has proven to be not very good. If Ceciliani didn't work out, you could have always grabbed another Zeke off the scrap heap.

[Governator]

I think Tepera has a much better chance of losing a game than Carerra will. Carerra probably gets DFA'd in a month. In the Toronto Star it appears Gibby actually liked Ceciliani over Carrera FWIW.

 

 

 

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/03/30/roberto-osuna-named-blue-jays-closer.html

 

 

If there is any logic, he will only be pitching when we are down 4+ anyway. I just don't see the scenario where he is our go to guy in a high leverage spot, we just have much better options. I think Cecil will be used as the most versatile pitcher in the BP until Loup returns.

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Carrera can only get worse.

 

He can???.....Hope not!

[KingKat]

Carrera can only get worse.

 

I don't believe this. Carrera has all the tools to be a MLB 4th OF which makes it all the more frustrating that his utter lack of baseball instincts hold him back but you have to figure his instincts will improve over time not get worse. Maybe he needs ADHD meds or something.

[Sammy225]

I don't believe this. Carrera has all the tools to be a MLB 4th OF which makes it all the more frustrating that his utter lack of baseball instincts hold him back but you have to figure his instincts will improve over time not get worse. Maybe he needs ADHD meds or something.

 

Chris Davis 2.0 lol

[Terminator]

It would be absolutely shocking if the FO told Gibby that Pillar should lead off and Osuna should close. The only reasonable assumption is that Gibbons decided these. It would be mildly surprising if Gibbons requested Venditte and Ceciliani and had Tepera and Carrera forced on him. I don't think the FO would cross their manager by forcing him to carry inferior players to the ones he wanted.

 

I do think that that FO should have overruled his preference for Tepera and Carrera.

 

Yeah once they give Gibby the 25 it's up to him.

 

But I don't understand the decisions today to give him this 25.

[glory]

Would Carrera really have been claimed by other teams when OF's that are just as good if not way better than him are out there? That's a stretch.

[Laika]

I don't believe this. Carrera has all the tools to be a MLB 4th OF which makes it all the more frustrating that his utter lack of baseball instincts hold him back but you have to figure his instincts will improve over time not get worse. Maybe he needs ADHD meds or something.

 

All the tools necessary? His MLB showing kind of demonstrated that he has none of the tools. Of primary concern is that fact that he's a hack defensively.

[Brownie19]

Could the deal with Ceciliani be that they are still working on some sort of adjustment and want him to get another month or two of regular AB's before he joins the team in a bench role? Otherwise it's a tough move to justify, he at least shows some potential, whereas Zeke has proven to be not very good. If Ceciliani didn't work out, you could have always grabbed another Zeke off the scrap heap.

 

I think it very well could be as simple as they have lots of days off early on and won't actually use the 4th OFer much. Ceciliani plays fulltime in AAA until they start actually using the 4th OF more (or injuries). Tapera is bizarre, but again with all the days off early on, the bullpen won't be overused and he won't pitch much. That said (and maybe for that reason) - a second LOOGY makes a lot of sense. Even Randy Choate to face 1 batter until Loup returns provides more value than Tapera does.

[G-Snarls]

If Estrada starts the year on the DL, does he use Floyd or does he use a 4 man rotation? There are 2 off days in the first 9 days of the season.

[KingKat]

All the tools necessary? His MLB showing kind of demonstrated that he has none of the tools. Of primary concern is that fact that he's a hack defensively.

 

Well maybe I'm just using the wrong terminology. Physically, he profiles as a guy who should be a good OF but he isn't and the problem seems to be between the ears.

[glory]

Carrera was acquired by the Indians in 2010 and stayed in the org until 2013. So he has history with Shapkins. Didn't even notice that until I looked it up. I'm not sure if that figured into this decision at all.

[KingKat]

If Estrada starts the year on the DL, does he use Floyd or does he use a 4 man rotation? There are 2 off days in the first 9 days of the season.

 

4-man

[intentional wok]

If Estrada starts the year on the DL, does he use Floyd or does he use a 4 man rotation? There are 2 off days in the first 9 days of the season.

 

4-man + off-day. Estrada will get his first turn. The DL move really just allows for an extra BP piece until next Sunday.

[G-Snarls]

So pumped for game 1 and Sanchez's first start game 3

[HERPDERP]

So pumped for game 1 and Sanchez's first start game 3

 

Sanchez is the 3rd starter? I thought that would be Happ

[WONDERBAT]

Guys calm down.

 

This team is insanely good, the bench will barely be playing unless there is an injury. Let the guys with potential play everyday in AAA and if at some point we need someone for an extended period they'll be ready. The Tepera move is a little perplexing cause Venditte should of gotten that spot but if Loup DL stint is almost over it's probably inconsequential.

[jb22]

9 pages of bitching over RP7 and 4th OF

[G-Snarls]

Sanchez is the 3rd starter? I thought that would be Happ

 

I thought I remembered Wilner and Gibby saying he'd go game 3 for some reason. Maybe not.

[G-Snarls]

9 pages of bitching over RP7 and 4th OF

 

Welcome to the board

[intentional wok]

Guys calm down.

 

This team is insanely good, the bench will barely be playing unless there is an injury. Let the guys with potential play everyday in AAA and if at some point we need someone for an extended period they'll be ready. The Tepera move is a little perplexing cause Venditte should of gotten that spot but if Loup DL stint is almost over it's probably inconsequential.

 

I dunno. Replace the rotation with the Cubs' or the Indians' and then they'd be insanely good. Until then the Blue Jays are just sanely good.

[Brownie19]

9 pages of bitching over RP7 and 4th OF

 

Exactly - this board is awesome.

[Laika]

Well maybe I'm just using the wrong terminology. Physically, he profiles as a guy who should be a good OF but he isn't and the problem seems to be between the ears.

 

I think if you stat scout he looks like a fourth OF. Decent slash in the minors, lots of steals, played CF. When he was acquired last year us stat scouts saw a direct Gose replacement.... which couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Physically, Carrera profiles as a AAA or KBO LF/CF

[Brownie19]

I think if you stat scout he looks like a fourth OF. Decent slash in the minors, lots of steals, played CF. When he was acquired last year us stat scouts saw a direct Gose replacement.... which couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Physically, Carrera profiles as a AAA or KBO LF/CF

 

and how is that different than Gose again? I mean unless Gose's defense reappears - he's s***.

[HERPDERP]

Eh, you can have not so sexy players who are drafted late and labeled as orgfillers/bench players

 

Give them a chance and they may end up just as expected or worse, like Mike McCoy.

 

Or maybe they end up like something better, like Kevin Pillar (although I do think he's still 4 OF material)

 

Or maybe you end up with someone like Matt Carpenter...

[Sorrow]

I question the Carrera call but Cecilliani should be up before long I'd imagine.

 

I think Tepera gets optioned when Estrada comes back so that the FO can get a longer view at Biagni and Leon to see if one or the other can stick which should last until Loup is healthy or Venditte is called up.

[Maahfaace]

My gawd, the people that actually think Gibbons made these decisions have really gone full retard. While I'm sure he gave some input to shatkins, their is no way these roster decisions were left up to him. (Closer excluded)

Even if in your crazy stupor you somehow believe Gibbons made said decisions, you should be pointing the finger upstairs for allowing it to happen in the first place, not blindly s***ing all over Gibby.

[Laika]

and how is that different than Gose again? I mean unless Gose's defense reappears - he's s***.

 

Gose is an average defensive CF and he has double plus speed. He actually has the peripheral tools that people look for in 4th OF. Gose actually has some tools and thus, an attainable upside. Carrera doesn't. They aren't very similar at all.

[BTS]

My gawd, the people that actually think Gibbons made these decisions have really gone full retard. While I'm sure he gave some input to shatkins, their is no way these roster decisions were left up to him. (Closer excluded)

Even if in your crazy stupor you somehow believe Gibbons made said decisions, you should be pointing the finger upstairs for allowing it to happen in the first place, not blindly s***ing all over Gibby.

 

The final decision obviously goes to Atkins, but the field manager absolutely has input on the 24th and 25th roster spots.