G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Ugh...That's gross I know Navarro, Goins, Smoak and Pompey was a more useful bench (though I understand why we don't have Pompey in the bigs, and Goins becomes primary utility IF when Travis is back)
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/naked-gun-facepalm.gif
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Arnold Leon can go multiple innings, so if one of our starters completely shits the bed in the next week or so we won't have to burn many relievers this early on. I guess I can get on board with that. Tepera too, but I would have liked Venditte.
Belliss101 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I know Navarro, Goins, Smoak and Pompey was a more useful bench (though I understand why we don't have Pompey in the bigs, and Goins becomes primary utility IF when Travis is back) I hearing reports that Travis may be out until August
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 We had years of people bitching about AA's handling of depth and filling out the last few roster spots. While that may have been warranted, here's a case of the grass being greener on the other side. No problem releasing Delabar, but the team has to bend over backwards to keep Carrera. Tepera makes the team but Hutchison does not, all in an effort to assure Sanchez a starting job. And this stuff is happening in a win year. Let's just hope that by the time May roles around the injured players are back, no one else gets injured and these roster anomalies sort themselves out.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Don't closers on mediocre teams get more saves? Every team in baseball is going to win at least 60 games, but our offence puts us in a lot of huge leads where saves don't apply. It's relative. I prefer to be a closer in an 90-100 wins team. I really love 3 runs lead.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Arnold Leon can go multiple innings, so if one of our starters completely shits the bed in the next week or so we won't have to burn many relievers this early on. I guess I can get on board with that. Tepera too, but I would have liked Venditte. BP arms move up and down all the time. I can live with this BP as is. Tepara and Venditte will be up and down all year probably. It's Carerra that's bothering me, nothing else really
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Perhaps they want Ceciliani to play more and hopefully get going before calling him up to replace Carrera. The beginning of the season they players will not be resting much and it might be harder for Ceciliani to get on the roll that we need him to when we actually do have to start resting our outfielders. But then he'll just be sitting 3/4 games when he comes up anyway. I just don't see any meaningful way to defend picking Carrera over Ceciliani when there are still three depth pieces in AAA even if dump Carrera. With the set up the Jays have, just take the best guy for the bench.
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 We had years of people bitching about AA's handling of depth and filling out the last few roster spots. While that may have been warranted, here's a case of the grass being greener on the other side. No problem releasing Delabar, but the team has to bend over backwards to keep Carrera. Tepera makes the team but Hutchison does not, all in an effort to assure Sanchez a starting job. And this stuff is happening in a win year. Let's just hope that by the time May roles around the injured players are back, no one else gets injured and these roster anomalies sort themselves out. Hutchison has no business being in the BP though, we need an arm that can be called upon from AAA when the inevitable hits. Carrera making the team over Ceciliani is such a joke, I really didn't care where that guy ended up as long as it wasn't on our starting roster.
polar bear Verified Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I know Navarro, Goins, Smoak and Pompey was a more useful bench (though I understand why we don't have Pompey in the bigs, and Goins becomes primary utility IF when Travis is back) Why does everyone presume Travis will automatically take over from Goins ?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Biagini --> http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/meet-newest-jays-relievercomedian-joe-biagini/ Biagini is Adam Lind level
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Hutchison has no business being in the BP though, we need an arm that can be called upon from AAA when the inevitable hits. Carrera making the team over Ceciliani is such a joke, I really didn't care where that guy ended up as long as it wasn't on our starting roster. I think he might have been suggesting Hutch in the rotation, Sanchez in the pen - Tepera in outer space.
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Why does everyone presume Travis will automatically take over from Goins ? I think several reasons; Travis has already proven he can provide a consistent bat in the bigs and he's a much better lead off option for this team than anyone we have without disrupting the order. Goins provides a more flexible defensive option as a utility player and most are still skeptical of his bat.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Hutchison has no business being in the BP though, we need an arm that can be called upon from AAA when the inevitable hits. Carrera making the team over Ceciliani is such a joke, I really didn't care where that guy ended up as long as it wasn't on our starting roster. Yes Hutch as AAA depth is nice He doesn't like it but whetever. We can use him like thisnas long as he has options. That's just hownit works.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I know Navarro, Goins, Smoak and Pompey was a more useful bench (though I understand why we don't have Pompey in the bigs, and Goins becomes primary utility IF when Travis is back) Smoak = Smoak Barney = Goins (not a popular opining but I really think they're basically the same guy) I don't really like Navarro but it's not hard to be better than Thole and Pompey is obviously a lot better than Zeke.
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I think he might have been suggesting Hutch in the rotation, Sanchez in the pen - Tepera in outer space. We all knew it was down to Sanchez of Floyd pretty early on though.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Picking up Will Venable off the trash heap would have been preferable to rostering 'Zeke.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I know Navarro, Goins, Bello and Pillar was a more useful bench (though I understand why we don't have Pompey in the bigs, and Goins becomes primary utility IF when Travis is back) ftfy...if we're comparing what we started last year with.....errr maybe Colabello wasn't on the team...actually, he wasn't - who was?
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Hutchison has no business being in the BP though, we need an arm that can be called upon from AAA when the inevitable hits. Carrera making the team over Ceciliani is such a joke, I really didn't care where that guy ended up as long as it wasn't on our starting roster. Hutchison could be #5 and Sanchez in the pen. Both improvements on the current situation.
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Hutchison could be #5 and Sanchez in the pen. Both improvements on the current situation. I agree, though there was never an indication Hutch was in the running for the 5th after about week 1.
Belliss101 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Italian Blue Jays! Ceciliani, Colabello, Venditte, Biagini (I'm assuming Ceciliani and Venditte will be full timers eventually) Keep on bringing in the GREEN, WHITE, AND RED!
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 none of this matters very much except zeke thats bad If they use Tepera as a LHH specialist that will matter and be a disaster. I have no idea how he is on the team. One of the worst pitchers vs LHH yet they use him in that role. He friggen had options too so there really is no excuse for him to make the team over Venditte.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Ceciliani, Pompey, and ? Lake. Brown probably too.
Belliss101 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Biagini --> http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/meet-newest-jays-relievercomedian-joe-biagini/ Biagini is Adam Lind level Barry Davis is such a tool
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Two of those are directly, 100% Gibbons. The other two were certainly at Gibbons' request with the FO signing off (which they shouldn't have). This is BS
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Hopefully it's just semantics but Smoak should not be considered a bench piece. Cola should be, just by virtue of being on the lean end of the 1B platoon. Hopefully the semantics aren't what will be practiced.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 And for comparison, the Cubs are going to have Solar and Baez (when healthy) on their bench.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Lake. Brown probably too. Now you're stretching a bit.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 This is BS You don't believe that Gibbons chose his closer and leadoff hitter, or that he requested Carrera and Tepera for his bench?
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