Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Stangstag]

9 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Getting tired of waiting for the Tucker/Bo breaking news.  Just sign already.  

Get ready to wait 6 more weeks

[Bob_Gratton]

10 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Get ready to wait 6 more weeks

At first I was really hopping Jays sign Tucker, but now, I am starting to think it's a bad idea, because I don't believe Tucker really want to sign here, or even with other big markets like Boston or New York. The reasons? He will have more pressure to perform to justify his overpaid contract, than if he sign with the Dodgers. In LA, spotlights are on Ohtani, Yamamoto, Mookie, Smith. Also, signing Okamoto and Bregman, will make Jays lineup better than with Tucker only. The Japanese he's able to hit 20 HR, .265+ AVG  and play different positions on the field.  Bregman will be good too, and we can move Clement at 2B, use Barger RF.

[jaysblue]

Bregman logistically makes the most sense since he can play either 3B or 2B, which allows Gimenez to stick at short, while rolling with Clement either at 2B or 3B (depending on the position Bregman plays). Allows Barger to stay in RF, and the Jays can roll with Santander/Lukes in LF, with Straw as another backup outfielder. 

Signing Tucker or Bellinger means that you either have to move Barger to 3B or you have to eat Santander's contract, unless you keep Tony around as an expensive bat off the bench who you try to find 200-300AB's for (covering for injuries, days-off, pitching matchups, etc). 

[Rafters]

BREAKING: Japanese third baseman Kazuma Okamoto and the Toronto Blue Jays are in agreement on a free agent contract, sources tell ESPN.

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, Rafters said:

BREAKING: Japanese third baseman Kazuma Okamoto and the Toronto Blue Jays are in agreement on a free agent contract, sources tell ESPN.

Shut up... link?

[Nexii]

Just now, Jays24 said:

Shut up... link?

Jeff Passan reporting it on X

Let's book that sushi party

[Jays24]

Woww... that means Bo's a goner?

[R.O.]

 

[abola2121]

5 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Woww... that means Bo's a goner?

Both KO and BO combined would be still be cheaper than what Tucker's asking for.

[Jays24]

5 minutes ago, abola2121 said:

Both KO and BO combined would be still be cheaper than what Tucker's asking for.

Theres no space for Bo anymore.  No way did KO sign with the Jays to be a platoon player.

[rydermike]

12 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Get ready to wait 6 more hours

Fixed it for you

[rydermike]

Okamoto/Varsho/Barger

Clement/Gimenez/Bichette*/Vladdy

Kirk

DH: Springer

Is this the starting 9 now? If Bo is back

Then: Santander, Schneider Heineman, Lukes, 

[JaysForever]

1 hour ago, rydermike said:

Okamoto/Varsho/Barger

Clement/Gimenez/Bichette*/Vladdy

Kirk

DH: Springer

Is this the starting 9 now? If Bo is back

Then: Santander, Schneider Heineman, Lukes, 

Regardless of whether its Bo or Tucker, the other 12 spots are pretty clear.

[Bob_Gratton]

2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Theres no space for Bo anymore.  No way did KO sign with the Jays to be a platoon player.

 

1 hour ago, JaysForever said:

Regardless of whether its Bo or Tucker, the other 12 spots are pretty clear.

The biggest question is if Clement and Barger will be as good in 2026, than last year. Actually their trade values is high, and if opportunities to acquire Marte or Bregman happens, will be hard to say no. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

LMAO look at the Jays bench right now...

1. Heineman - 2.1 fWAR on 174 PA's

2. Lukes - 1.8 fWAR on 438 PA's

3. Schneider - 1.3 fWAR on 227 PA's

4. Straw - 1.8 fWAR on 299 PA's

[JaysForever]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

LMAO look at the Jays bench right now...

1. Heineman - 2.1 fWAR on 174 PA's

2. Lukes - 1.8 fWAR on 438 PA's

3. Schneider - 1.3 fWAR on 227 PA's

4. Straw - 1.8 fWAR on 299 PA's

And if they sign another bat, one of those guys will be traded. 😄

[Stangstag]

5 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Theres no space for Bo anymore.  No way did KO sign with the Jays to be a platoon player.

Obviously if anyone else is brought in at this point (Bo or Tucker) there would have to be a trade made. Just too many guys ATM.

Don’t be surprised to see 1 of Barger/Lukes/Schneider/Loperfido moved

[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

LMAO look at the Jays bench right now...

1. Heineman - 2.1 fWAR on 174 PA's

2. Lukes - 1.8 fWAR on 438 PA's

3. Schneider - 1.3 fWAR on 227 PA's

4. Straw - 1.8 fWAR on 299 PA's

Best bench in franchise history??

[JaysForever]

23 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Obviously if anyone else is brought in at this point (Bo or Tucker) there would have to be a trade made. Just too many guys ATM.

Don’t be surprised to see 1 of Barger/Lukes/Schneider/Loperfido moved

They can stash Loperfido in the minors. If Straw walks in free agency the year after, you have his potential replacement.

I assume Lukes is the one that gets traded. Barger has too much upside and Schneider is needed as a utility infielder.

Leo Jimenez is also out of options. So Lukes/Jimenez could be packaged in a deal. 

[G-Snarls]

Say there are no more moves (I think there will be but if there's not)

Barger Clement Schneider share RF and 2B essentially?

[Abomination]

1 hour ago, G-Snarls said:

Say there are no more moves (I think there will be but if there's not)

Barger Clement Schneider share RF and 2B essentially?

Clement probably starts at SS against lefties from time to time as well.

[Pendleton]

1 hour ago, G-Snarls said:

Say there are no more moves 

I will never 

[Sorrow]

If the team still brings back Bichette you have a solid line up.

 

DH Springer

2B Bichette

1B Guerrero

3B Okamoto

SS Gimenez against RHP and Clement against LHP

LF Santander

CF Varsho

RF Barger

a bench of Schneider, Heineman, Straw and Clement

I think we see Lukes traded

[jaysblue]

17 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

LMAO look at the Jays bench right now...

1. Heineman - 2.1 fWAR on 174 PA's

2. Lukes - 1.8 fWAR on 438 PA's

3. Schneider - 1.3 fWAR on 227 PA's

4. Straw - 1.8 fWAR on 299 PA's

It's a very deep bench, but I expect some regression especially from Heineman and Lukes/Straw. 

Also, don't see Lukes getting 438 PA's again, unless someone gets injured. 

Likely can project each of those guys for 1 WAR or less each. 

[glory]

1 hour ago, Sorrow said:

If the team still brings back Bichette you have a solid line up.

DH Springer

2B Bichette

1B Guerrero

3B Okamoto

SS Gimenez against RHP and Clement against LHP

LF Santander

CF Varsho

RF Barger

a bench of Schneider, Heineman, Straw and Clement

I think we see Lukes traded

Yeah I'm trying to wrap my head around Tucker in the lineup, and I see it as less likely after giving $60M to Okamoto.

Barger and Santander have to be in the OF corners now, so adding Tucker means you have to trade one of them. I guess it's possible they sell high on Barger, but he presents the type of cheap upside that a team in the Cohen Tax needs more of, not less. The other option would be selling low on Santander, which I don't think would be a huge issue, but they'd almost certainly have to eat up cash and that would be on top of giving Tucker $300+ million. Would be asking a lot from Rogers. Santander probably won't be happy in a bench role (they care about clubhouse chemistry a lot), and he doesn't really have the skill set for a bench role either. He'd have to be moved if Tucker is brought in. 

I feel like Bo probably makes more sense now, but who knows with free agency. 

[Jimcanuck]

4 minutes ago, glory said:

Yeah I'm trying to wrap my head around Tucker in the lineup, and I see it as less likely after giving $60M to Okamoto.

Barger and Santander have to be in the OF corners now, so adding Tucker means you have to trade one of them. I guess it's possible they sell high on Barger, but he presents the type of cheap upside that a team in the Cohen Tax needs more of, not less. The other option would be selling low on Santander, which I don't think would be a huge issue, but they'd almost certainly have to eat up cash and that would be on top of giving Tucker $300+ million. Would be asking a lot from Rogers. Santander probably won't be happy in a bench role (they care about clubhouse chemistry a lot), and he doesn't really have the skill set for a bench role either. He'd have to be moved if Tucker is brought in. 

I feel like Bo probably makes more sense now, but who knows with free agency. 

My gut says the Jays moved on from Bo before FA even started.

[JaysForever]

23 minutes ago, glory said:

Yeah I'm trying to wrap my head around Tucker in the lineup, and I see it as less likely after giving $60M to Okamoto.

Barger and Santander have to be in the OF corners now, so adding Tucker means you have to trade one of them. I guess it's possible they sell high on Barger, but he presents the type of cheap upside that a team in the Cohen Tax needs more of, not less. The other option would be selling low on Santander, which I don't think would be a huge issue, but they'd almost certainly have to eat up cash and that would be on top of giving Tucker $300+ million. Would be asking a lot from Rogers. Santander probably won't be happy in a bench role (they care about clubhouse chemistry a lot), and he doesn't really have the skill set for a bench role either. He'd have to be moved if Tucker is brought in. 

I feel like Bo probably makes more sense now, but who knows with free agency. 

This is my thinking exactly.

Unless they think they can rotate Springer, Santander, Barger and Okamoto for 3 positions for a year. Because Springer could be just a 1 year situation if he is not renewed. I don't think they will automatically turn down Tucker but it is less likley now.

If they sign Bo, he takes 2B, and Clement/Gimenez platoon as the SS and utilitity infielder. That is an easier move.

[G-Snarls]

Bring Bo back and the team is better in every way from last year except defense 

 

Starting rotation

Bullpen 

Lineup 

 

All better

[Jays24]

Ya I also see it harder to sign Tucker now.  Bo is still a perfect fit to the lineup.  

Springer - Barger- Vlad - Bo - Santandar - Varsho - Kirk - Okamoto - Gimenez

Bench: Lukes - Clement - Schneider - Straw - Heiniman 

[Nexii]

Yea Bo is a huge up at 2B still. Fingers crossed. I think the team will give him a fair offer but it feels like others could throw him a lot more $$$