Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Funky]

Since we are throwing money around would you base a trade around Yesavage for Miller if we could sign Imai? 
 

who adds ?

San Diego gets a cheap starter we get an elite closer and backfill Yesavage loss and tap into Japanese market with Imai. 

i hate losing a guy like Yesavage but Miller is undeniably one of the better young relief arms in the league and Imai has interesting stuff. 

[DonJays]

1 hour ago, Funky said:

Since we are throwing money around would you base a trade around Yesavage for Miller if we could sign Imai? 
 

who adds ?

San Diego gets a cheap starter we get an elite closer and backfill Yesavage loss and tap into Japanese market with Imai. 

i hate losing a guy like Yesavage but Miller is undeniably one of the better young relief arms in the league and Imai has interesting stuff. 

That’s insanely stupid. But thank you for your contribution 

[jmomcc]

4 hours ago, bronson44 said:

What would a realistic package for Miller from us be?

Realistic.. the padres traded a really good prospect for him. They aren't trading him for less than someone like yesavage.. which i would not do personally. 

[BTS]

3 hours ago, DonJays said:

That’s insanely stupid. But thank you for your contribution 

I wouldn’t do it, but I don’t think this reaction is fair. The padres just traded a clear top-10 prospect in baseball for him, and he’d return something similar if they move him 

[mphenhef]

5 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Im scared to wake up and find out Bo has signed elsewhere or worse with a rival for under 200M.  His personality is carrying over to his free agency with it being far too quiet.  

It would be OK, maybe that team would just be signing Bo in the hopes we would trade Berrios for him.

[Pendleton]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

I wouldn’t do it, but I don’t think this reaction is fair. The padres just traded a clear top-10 prospect in baseball for him, and he’d return something similar if they move him 

Yeah they literally just gave up one of the very best position prospects in the game for this guy, they would be idiots to turn around and trade him for a loss. It would be another young household name highlighting the return if he's moved. 

 

There's just simply no reliever in baseball for whom I'm moving Yesavage at this point. Even if he does retain rookie/prospect status officially, he's shown enough at the MLB level to be valued like a young big leaguer 

[Perfect Game]

13 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Are people sniffing glue again?

SD wants to cut payroll, so they'll trade the superstar closer who's projected to make just $3.3M this year in Arb 1

In exchange, we'll give them Hoffman at $11M and Berrios at $19M + the remaining years on both their deals.

C'mon people.

I literally said "send cash" If they don't want Hoffman we'll hang on him or maybe get a third team involved.

What's the harm in checking in if they're desperate to cut payroll & SP & willing to listen on Miller?

[glory]

Elbow and bicep doesn’t sound good.

[BTS]

7 minutes ago, glory said:

Elbow and bicep doesn’t sound good.

Sounds like UCL repair is imminent  

[Eat My Shatkins]

Seems like Berrios and Bieber both may have questionable health going into the season maybe?

 

Might be a good idea to have a guy like Scherzer on stand by. A "break glass in case of emergency" type of guy.

[jmomcc]

58 minutes ago, glory said:

Elbow and bicep doesn’t sound good.

he was apparently really proud of never going on the IL so its possible that he's had smaller versions of this other years. 

You could look at this two ways. He's hurt. Or, finally he is actually taking some time

and getting fully healthy.

[BatFlip]

20 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Seems like Berrios and Bieber both may have questionable health going into the season maybe?

 

Might be a good idea to have a guy like Scherzer on stand by. A "break glass in case of emergency" type of guy.

Having too much starting depth always seems to work itself out.  Hopefully with Bieber it's just a matter of continuing his rehab/strengthening and some rest and recovery after really pushing it post-trade.

Everyone is in a hurry to deal Berrios and eat money, but as long as he's not holding us back from strengthening the bats, I'm perfectly happy to keep Berrios at this point for in-season starter depth.

 

 

[Brownie19]

17 minutes ago, BatFlip said:

Having too much starting depth always seems to work itself out.  Hopefully with Bieber it's just a matter of continuing his rehab/strengthening and some rest and recovery after really pushing it post-trade.

Everyone is in a hurry to deal Berrios and eat money, but as long as he's not holding us back from strengthening the bats, I'm perfectly happy to keep Berrios at this point for in-season starter depth.

I agree with this.  There's also a possibility that he rehabs (or does whatever he needs to do to get his elbow and bicep healthy again) and shows well in Spring Training.  That, coupled with a starter of a contending team going down in the spring could increase his value.  He's also a safety valve for this team.

There's really no reason at all to dump him right now provided he isn't holding us back from signing Tucker/Bo/etc.

[jmomcc]

2 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

I agree with this.  There's also a possibility that he rehabs (or does whatever he needs to do to get his elbow and bicep healthy again) and shows well in Spring Training.  That, coupled with a starter of a contending team going down in the spring could increase his value.  He's also a safety valve for this team.

There's really no reason at all to dump him right now provided he isn't holding us back from signing Tucker/Bo/etc.

The reason to trade him and/or lauer is whether they are the  best option for the pen or not. 

Is Miles better in one inning relief? Is fisher sitting in triple a because berrios needs accomodated even though he hates the pen? 

There is a possible opportunity cost. 

[BTS]

6 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

The reason to trade him and/or lauer is whether they are the  best option for the pen or not. 

Is Miles better in one inning relief? Is fisher sitting in triple a because berrios needs accomodated even though he hates the pen? 

There is a possible opportunity cost. 

I really think this is the kind of thing you don't worry about until the playoffs. Looks weird on opening day to have Berrios + Lauer in the pen and guys like Fisher and Fluharty in AAA, but these things tend to resolve themselves because pitchers are ticking bombs 

[jmomcc]

14 minutes ago, BTS said:

I really think this is the kind of thing you don't worry about until the playoffs. Looks weird on opening day to have Berrios + Lauer in the pen and guys like Fisher and Fluharty in AAA, but these things tend to resolve themselves because pitchers are ticking bombs 

If you are going to trade berrios it needs to be before july 30th i think. After that he has 10-5 rights and a full no trade clause. 

I think if he is healthy you do that as soon as possible while teams need pitching. I just don't know if a 18 million (24 million next year) long relief is worth it. 

[Laika]

1 minute ago, jmomcc said:

If you are going to trade berrios it needs to be before july 30th i think. After that he has 10-5 rights and a full no trade clause. 

I think if he is healthy you do that as soon as possible while teams need pitching. I just don't know if a 18 million (24 million next year) long relief is worth it. 

Berrios isn't worth what's left on his contract no matter what role he's in 

Even if he gets 10-5 rights I doubt he blocks a trade if the result would be him in a normal rotation spot again 

[Terminator]

18 minutes ago, BTS said:

I really think this is the kind of thing you don't worry about until the playoffs. Looks weird on opening day to have Berrios + Lauer in the pen and guys like Fisher and Fluharty in AAA, but these things tend to resolve themselves because pitchers are ticking bombs 

Yep, the team is friggin' stacked so guys who deserve to start are in the bullpen and guys who deserve to be on an MLB team are in Buffalo. 

[Omar]

1 hour ago, glory said:

Elbow and bicep doesn’t sound good.

Why would the Jays allow him to pitch in the WBC prior to the beginning of the season? Why would he even consider it ?  His goal should be to be completely healthy on opening day.

  La Makina is starting to piss me off. 

[jmomcc]

11 minutes ago, Laika said:

Berrios isn't worth what's left on his contract no matter what role he's in 

Even if he gets 10-5 rights I doubt he blocks a trade if the result would be him in a normal rotation spot again 

There still is an ideal time to sell though where you might eat less money than other times. 

[Orgfiller]

9 minutes ago, Omar said:

Why would the Jays allow him to pitch in the WBC prior to the beginning of the season? Why would he even consider it ?  His goal should be to be completely healthy on opening day.

  La Makina is starting to piss me off. 

Meh, as a fan of the WBC and growing baseball's popularity internationally, I always advocate for the best players participating, especially the pitchers who tend to chicken out and muddle the talent pool. Obviously guys rehabbing from TJS should take it easy, but it still just effectively works as a tune up for these guys to be ready to pitch competitively during the regular season.

If anything, Berrios participating should give us an idea on how his stuff is looking, and if his arm can hold up in the capacity of having a rotation spot.

[jerb]

 

[Spanky__99]

40 minutes ago, Omar said:

Why would the Jays allow him to pitch in the WBC prior to the beginning of the season? Why would he even consider it ?  His goal should be to be completely healthy on opening day.

  La Makina is starting to piss me off. 

First thing that popped in my head.

[glory]

21 minutes ago, jerb said:

 

Bo passing the eye test at 2B in limited reps with one functioning leg likely helped him a lot. I doubt any team views him as a SS at this point. Will teams pay big money for a 2B? Maybe, but he's probably entering a difficult market one year before a lockout. Teams might be willing to overpay for a SS. Less likely for a 2B. Curious to see what Bo ends up signing for. I think him coming back to the Jays is a very real possibility. The Red Sox are being linked to him now and I don't think they have any interest in spending big in free agency. 

[Governator]

6 minutes ago, glory said:

Bo passing the eye test at 2B in limited reps with one functioning leg likely helped him a lot. I doubt any team views him as a SS at this point. Will teams pay big money for a 2B? Maybe, but he's probably entering a difficult market one year before a lockout. Teams might be willing to overpay for a SS. Less likely for a 2B. Curious to see what Bo ends up signing for. I think him coming back to the Jays is a very real possibility. The Red Sox are being linked to him now and I don't think they have any interest in spending big in free agency. 

At this point, they probably want some comparatives for leverage to negotiate with the Jays since they probably aren't getting real offers for a long term SS deal and I'm sure the Jays already have their hard numbers in place for him which they've had all year to plan for.

[JaysForever]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

I really think this is the kind of thing you don't worry about until the playoffs. Looks weird on opening day to have Berrios + Lauer in the pen and guys like Fisher and Fluharty in AAA, but these things tend to resolve themselves because pitchers are ticking bombs 

Berrios doesn't sound healthy, he may need surgery at some point.

Bieber's health is a bit of a question mark and Yesavage has not pitched as a fulltime starter for a complete year. Lauer is probably going to be a starter for most of the year because of this.

It is unlikely that all 13 pitchers will be healthy throughout the year. One of those Triple A pitchers will always be up, maybe 2.

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, jmomcc said:

There still is an ideal time to sell though where you might eat less money than other times. 

100%

That time is not now.  It's following free agency when a solid starter on a contending team goes down with a major injury and they have limited depth.  That's when Berrios becomes more valuable - especially if he's "healthy" again and throwing well.

[Laika]

18 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

100%

That time is not now.  It's following free agency when a solid starter on a contending team goes down with a major injury and they have limited depth.  That's when Berrios becomes more valuable - especially if he's "healthy" again and throwing well.

Right

The only thing working in favour of a trade right now is that there are other teams out there trying to shake up their roster and unload a s***** contract, so there might be a bad contract swap that could be had 

[Alejandro Murphy]

18 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Sorry - I wasn't trying to be rude, but the suggestion is so far fetched that I thought it was some on-going joke because you're not the only one who's been suggesting we trade for Mason Miller and then pretends like the Padres will give him away for a couple broken bats.

Berrios is dead weight.  If you offered him and his contract to every ML team and asked for a hot dog in return - all teams would laugh in your face.  The only way you can get rid of him is to pay his salary, or include additional talent.

Mason Miller has 4 years of control left and is one of the very best, if not the best RPer in baseball.  We'd have to sacrifice a metric f*ckton of talent to land him.

All good. 

Why I said it’s a coup if Jays acquire Miller

But maybe Atkins can create a very attractive package for SD to bite involving Berrios and including additional “metric f*ckton of talent” as what you just literally stated. 

 

 

 

[Brownie19]

35 minutes ago, Laika said:

Right

The only thing working in favour of a trade right now is that there are other teams out there trying to shake up their roster and unload a s***** contract, so there might be a bad contract swap that could be had 

It's worth wait for a couple of reasons.

1.  Ideally, we'd unload him while cutting some salary.

2. He provides good insurance right now given some minor uncertainties with Bieber (+ all the other ticking time bombs known as the pitching staff).

I really don't think it's wise to move him for another "bad contract" on the offensive side.