Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[JaysForever]

35 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

I think realistically one of Miles or Nance isn't on the team by OD, and are replaced by a lefty in Little or Fluharty. Absurd depth though lol, Braydon Fisher beginning in AAA after the season he just had I think falls in the category of "embarrassment of riches".

And naturally, injuries will sort the roster jam by themselves.

I agree, I suspect Nance and Miles are fighiting for one spot, which will make room for another lefty in the pen.

Either Little or Fluharty probably grab that spot while the other goes to Triple A. Which gives them clear LH and RH reliever (Fisher) options to call up for when injuries appear.

If all goes well for Ricky T, we could see him in the 2nd half of the season.

I think Miles has an uphill battle to make the roster after missing so much time.

 

 

 

[JaysForever]

35 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

I'm not that impressed by that pen. I don't think stashing starter depth in the pen is actually a good idea unless their stuff really plays up. I'm not sure that's true for berrios or lauer. 

The bigger issue is getting Berrios to go along with being in the pen. I am sure they are exploring trades, but they aren't going to accept a silly trade just to move Berrios.

If they cannot move him, then he is in the bullpen, where he has no track record and will be unhappy.

 

[Jonn]

We just need to get Berrios highlight reel onto the screen of Arte Moreno and we’re set.

[Laika]

1 hour ago, jmomcc said:

I'd agree with the fangraphs rankings currently. 

We are 8th albeit with Berrios not in the pen. I do think him or lauer need traded. If we are done signing guys, i'd guess we'd end somewhere around 10th best. 

But those undervalue Rogers by like 0.7 WAR or more 

Adjust for that and it's top 5 

[Alejandro Murphy]

I am excited of our starting rotation especially what Trey can do in a full season

(btw, just received in the mail the authenticated Yesavage Autographed baseball after 2 months of waiting 😅)

 

also looking forward to both Cease and Ponce

especially Ponce 6’6” guy with depth and velocity. 
 

Go Jays !

 

P.S.  very difficult decision who to pick Bo (homegrown talent/ long tenure and offensive strength).  Then Tucker, a left handed hitter who could do MAJOR damage either in front of Vlad or behind Vlad in the line up

 

One more P.S.  lol

 

the Berrios situation, don’t see him as part of the rotation moving forward. If we can package him to acquire Mason Miller, damn that would be a major coup.

 

GO JAYS !

[jmomcc]

13 minutes ago, Laika said:

But those undervalue Rogers by like 0.7 WAR or more 

Adjust for that and it's top 5 

Yea, fair. 

I guess i just don't like the composition of it once you get to the back end of the pen. 

[max silver]

1 hour ago, jmomcc said:

I'd agree with the fangraphs rankings currently. 

We are 8th albeit with Berrios not in the pen. I do think him or lauer need traded. If we are done signing guys, i'd guess we'd end somewhere around 10th best. 

Where do you find the present overall team rankings on Fangraphs?

[Orgfiller]

3 minutes ago, max silver said:

Where do you find the present overall team rankings on Fangraphs?

I'm assuming they're using the Positional Depth Charts: https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=RP

Dodgers over Padres as the top BP is a very interesting take by the projection models.

[Laika]

7 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Yea, fair. 

I guess i just don't like the composition of it once you get to the back end of the pen. 

It is a deep pen but not as good if you focus on the top 2 or 3 relievers, compared to some of the teams above them in the overall projections 

[Pendleton]

Just now, Laika said:

It is a deep pen but not as good if you focus on the top 2 or 3 relievers, compared to some of the teams above them in the overall projections 

We could add one more quality arm to that back end group, to push for the closer job 

 

 

 

[Orgfiller]

9 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Yea, fair. 

I guess i just don't like the composition of it once you get to the back end of the pen. 

I think this is a fair take from the perspective of, we're in the top of the 9th in game 7, do we have that one guy we're comfortable with closing the door? Anecdotally, we obviously saw what happened to "our guy" in that exact scenario - although he otherwise had a pretty excellent playoff run, but I digress. I still think Hoffman has a chance to be that guy, but he'll need to build up that trust again.

On the other hand, it's a very deep group in terms of: our starter struggles through 3-4 innings, can we reasonably expect the bullpen to keep us in the game? Despite the bullpen reasonably doing an okay job at that at times these playoffs, it certainly wasn't the group you had the most hope in. This is obviously evidenced by our usage of guys like Bassitt, Gausman and Yesavage in crucial games when other teams may have considered leaning on their top bullpen arms. With this group, aside from like Little, there's not a guy that you're cringing your teeth and praying they're not the ones coming in to stop the bleeding.

[G-Snarls]

8 minutes ago, Laika said:

It is a deep pen but not as good if you focus on the top 2 or 3 relievers, compared to some of the teams above them in the overall projections 

Hoffman 

Varland 

Garcia 

Rogers 

 

I like it if 2-3 pitch to their top potential 

Agree we won't have Diaz or a Chapman  but we have some definite potential stoppers 

[Laika]

2 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Hoffman 

Varland 

Garcia 

Rogers 

 

I like it if 2-3 pitch to their top potential 

Agree we won't have Diaz or a Chapman  but we have some definite potential stoppers 

I just see 4 guys who you prefer as setup men 

It's totally fine, and there is no need to upgrade. Also, Nance, Little, Fluharty, and Fisher can reasonably be second tier setup men as well, say 7th inning guys. So you could have a full 8 man bullpen without any slop at all. It's great for depth. Not to mention the rule 5 guy, and Bastardo, and Tiedemann, and the excess SP... 

[jmomcc]

I think i used terminology wrong. The back end is the good end? I meant the other way around. 
 

I like our 4 best relievers. i think if you could get Varland's fastball location up instead of middle, then he could be our closer honestly. I'm not sure how that would be achieved. its just such an obvious problem though and the reason i think he strikes out less than he should. Its too easy to sit on locations with him because everything is middle or down. If he could throw 98 up and knuckle curves down, he would be absolutely nasty. 

My problem is with the bottom 4. I think lauer and berrios are redundant. And then little is a worry as our best leftie. 
 

I think they will trade berrios or lauer and one of miles and bastardo will make it though. Then maybe tieddemann can be an impact leftie. Fisher will be the glue guy. 

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, Alejandro Murphy said:

the Berrios situation, don’t see him as part of the rotation moving forward. If we can package him to acquire Mason Miller, damn that would be a major coup.

Why do people keep suggesting that we trade a bunch of spare parts for Mason Miller?  Is this some new board meme I'm not aware of?  Or have people just lost their minds because of how well the offseason has gone so far.

[Alejandro Murphy]

15 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Why do people keep suggesting that we trade a bunch of spare parts for Mason Miller?  Is this some new board meme I'm not aware of?  Or have people just lost their minds because of how well the offseason has gone so far.

I didnt know that Berrios who was once part of a starting Rotation is now considered a spare part?  Maybe adding him with a bunch of prospects are garbage and still garbage assets.

then my mistake for suggesting that

 

you are the expert so educate us •, we are eager to learn, the ones who can’t reach the high horse where your sitting 

[Brownie19]

35 minutes ago, Alejandro Murphy said:

I didnt know that Berrios who was once part of a starting Rotation is now considered a spare part?  Maybe adding him with a bunch of prospects are garbage and still garbage assets.

then my mistake for suggesting that

you are the expert so educate us •, we are eager to learn, the ones who can’t reach the high horse where your sitting 

Sorry - I wasn't trying to be rude, but the suggestion is so far fetched that I thought it was some on-going joke because you're not the only one who's been suggesting we trade for Mason Miller and then pretends like the Padres will give him away for a couple broken bats.

Berrios is dead weight.  If you offered him and his contract to every ML team and asked for a hot dog in return - all teams would laugh in your face.  The only way you can get rid of him is to pay his salary, or include additional talent.

Mason Miller has 4 years of control left and is one of the very best, if not the best RPer in baseball.  We'd have to sacrifice a metric f*ckton of talent to land him.

[Perfect Game]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

Why do people keep suggesting that we trade a bunch of spare parts for Mason Miller?  Is this some new board meme I'm not aware of?  Or have people just lost their minds because of how well the offseason has gone so far.

Berrios & Hoffman aren't spare parts to them tho. They want a starter an OF & to cut payroll. They can use Hoffman as their closer. Sure we'd have to send cash. Maybe Nimmala & another prospect or two.

[Stangstag]

11 minutes ago, Perfect Game said:

Berrios & Hoffman aren't spare parts to them tho. They want a starter an OF & to cut payroll. They can use Hoffman as their closer. Sure we'd have to send cash. Maybe Nimmala & another prospect or two.

What kinda moronic take is this

[Eat My Shatkins]

Since the Padres want to cut payroll, maybe we could get them to toss FTJ into that deal as well.

[Brownie19]

Are people sniffing glue again?

SD wants to cut payroll, so they'll trade the superstar closer who's projected to make just $3.3M this year in Arb 1

In exchange, we'll give them Hoffman at $11M and Berrios at $19M + the remaining years on both their deals.

C'mon people.

[mphenhef]

2 hours ago, Orgfiller said:

I think this is a fair take from the perspective of, we're in the top of the 9th in game 7, do we have that one guy we're comfortable with closing the door? Anecdotally, we obviously saw what happened to "our guy" in that exact scenario - although he otherwise had a pretty excellent playoff run, but I digress. I still think Hoffman has a chance to be that guy, but he'll need to build up that trust again.

On the other hand, it's a very deep group in terms of: our starter struggles through 3-4 innings, can we reasonably expect the bullpen to keep us in the game? Despite the bullpen reasonably doing an okay job at that at times these playoffs, it certainly wasn't the group you had the most hope in. This is obviously evidenced by our usage of guys like Bassitt, Gausman and Yesavage in crucial games when other teams may have considered leaning on their top bullpen arms. With this group, aside from like Little, there's not a guy that you're cringing your teeth and praying they're not the ones coming in to stop the bleeding.

I mean even Mo blew a game 7

[Eat My Shatkins]

15 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Are people sniffing glue again?

SD wants to cut payroll, so they'll trade the superstar closer who's projected to make just $3.3M this year in Arb 1

In exchange, we'll give them Hoffman at $11M and Berrios at $19M + the remaining years on both their deals.

C'mon people.

Thats why they toss in FTJ 

We're here to help

[BTS]

Hey guys, I've been doing a lot of thinking about the pen. Do you think Mason Miller could help the team? I hear the Padres are looking for starting pitching so Jose Berrios should be of interest. Maybe we add Nance and Nimmala? I wonder if they'd throw in Ethan Salas if we add Santander. Please let me know your thoughts. 

[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

Hey guys, I've been doing a lot of thinking about the pen. Do you think Mason Miller could help the team? I hear the Padres are looking for starting pitching so Jose Berrios should be of interest. Maybe we add Nance and Nimmala? I wonder if they'd throw in Ethan Salas if we add Santander. Please let me know your thoughts. 

I like Miller, but we still need an elite closer like Diaz or Hader IMO.

Would the dodgers do a Diaz for Hoffman swap to shave some payroll? We could throw in Nathan Lukes to sweeten the pot

[JaysForever]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

Hey guys, I've been doing a lot of thinking about the pen. Do you think Mason Miller could help the team? I hear the Padres are looking for starting pitching so Jose Berrios should be of interest. Maybe we add Nance and Nimmala? I wonder if they'd throw in Ethan Salas if we add Santander. Please let me know your thoughts. 

It is clearly not very realistic unless the Padres throw in Pivetta, their token Canadian.😉

[bronson44]

What would a realistic package for Miller from us be?

[Jimcanuck]

Would Miller for Berrios beat the Vernon Wells trade as best in BJ history?

It's pretty close IMO

[Jimcanuck]

5 hours ago, BTS said:

Hey guys, I've been doing a lot of thinking about the pen. Do you think Mason Miller could help the team? I hear the Padres are looking for starting pitching so Jose Berrios should be of interest. Maybe we add Nance and Nimmala? I wonder if they'd throw in Ethan Salas if we add Santander. Please let me know your thoughts. 

Why do we need to include Nimmala??

[Jays24]

Im scared to wake up and find out Bo has signed elsewhere or worse with a rival for under 200M.  His personality is carrying over to his free agency with it being far too quiet.