[ALCS GM 5] Blue Jays (Gausman) vs Mariners (Miller): 10/17/25, 6:08pm

[Doubleplay21]

Schneider has been using Little in high leverage all season. Who cares if he walks a bunch. Schneider knows more than any armchair critic 

[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, hanton said:

Our bullpen finally got exposed.

Springer is day-to-day, x-rays negative.  Too bad It's his back leg, hopefully he can go but if not move everyone up a spot - Lukes leads off

I feel like the front leg is more important for hitting. Hurt my back foot really bad at the end of this season, but couldn’t really feel it hitting. You transfer all the weight forward just before contact so your front side is more important IMO. He’ll probably lose power and the running will be questionable, but he may be able to play through.

[hanton]

3 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

I feel like the front leg is more important for hitting. Hurt my back foot really bad at the end of this season, but couldn’t really feel it hitting. You transfer all the weight forward just before contact so your front side is more important IMO. He’ll probably lose power and the running will be questionable, but he may be able to play through.

[hanton]

^ Springer dinger

[Jonn]

19 minutes ago, Big_Walleye said:

Criticism is fine.  It's what they do.  But I heard (didn't see/hear it for myself I turned the channel) he said some things that clearly crossed the line last night.  Still waiting to see video of it.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/video/breaking-down-blue-jays-decision-to-use-little-in-eighth-inning/

Here you go. Tell me where he crossed the line.

[Stangstag]

21 minutes ago, Big_Walleye said:

Criticism is fine.  It's what they do.  But I heard (didn't see/hear it for myself I turned the channel) he said some things that clearly crossed the line last night.  Still waiting to see video of it

lollll classic. Having such a strong opinion when you don’t even have the facts

[Stangstag]

21 minutes ago, hanton said:

 

 

in this last pic he’s not even using his right leg!

[Big_Walleye]

15 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

lollll classic. Having such a strong opinion when you don’t even have the facts

Isn't that exactly what all the critics are doing?  Does anyone not with the team have the facts that went into last night's decision?  The answer is no.  Maybe Hoffman was down,  he never got off his chair.  Only the decision makers know for sure.

[Omar]

5 minutes ago, Big_Walleye said:

Isn't that exactly what all the critics are doing?  Does anyone not with the team have the facts that went into last night's decision?  The answer is no.  Maybe Hoffman was down,  he never got off his chair.  Only the decision makers know for sure.

You called for the man to be fired without knowing for what.

[SeranthonySantander]

Winning 2 in a row has already been done 2 times this series.  A feat this team has only accomplished a mere 34 times this year (including all winning streaks in groups of 2,4,6 etc). Accounting for 72% of their wins.

[Big_Walleye]

10 minutes ago, Omar said:

You called for the man to be fired without knowing for what.

I have some info but its 2nd hand so I'm not willing to share just yet.  

Siddall absolutely ripped into Schneider last night when he had no facts whatsoever.   He has no idea what caused the decisions that were made but he went off anyway.  I prefer to give the people that have provided us with this great playoff run the benefit of the doubt.

[saskjayfan]

2 hours ago, neverbeenhere said:

It's almost impossible to expect jays to win both games In Toronto. Momentum is with Seattle and game 6 is a must must must game for bluejays, whereas Seattle can lose game 6 and still have another chance. 

Expect and believing it's possible are 2 different things.  It's not an 0 and 3 hole.  It's 2 and 3.  If the Jays win tomorrow they will be favourites in game 7.

[Buster]

1 hour ago, Big_Walleye said:

I have some info but its 2nd hand so I'm not willing to share just yet.  

Siddall absolutely ripped into Schneider last night when he had no facts whatsoever.   He has no idea what caused the decisions that were made but he went off anyway.  I prefer to give the people that have provided us with this great playoff run the benefit of the doubt.

The Jay's media went very easy on Schneider last night.  Siddall, KP, Campbell, Madison, and Joseph were all holding back, and you could tell.  They had to criticize him despite being employees of Rogers.  But they just ripped into him, rather than completely decimating him, which is what they could/should have done.  It was one of the single stupidest things I've seen a manager do, considering the significance of the moment.  At least it might displace the 8-1 blown lead and the early yanking of Gausman in the last playoff series.  

Hoffman should have been available and should have come in.  Hoffman has been pitching well.

Seranthony was obviously available and pitches much better with clean innings.

Atkins should be fired for not understanding how to build a bullpen in the off season or the trade deadline. 

Schneider's decision last night with Little is a fire-able offense.  

[Alejandro Murphy]

Things already happened that was unfavorable in game 5.  Not much else we can do.

 

but let’s just see it glass half full

 

this is a 2-3-2 format.  Meaning we expected Seattle to win 3 games, even though the actual results went on reverse 

 

Now the expectation is to win the last 2,  best regular season team still has the advantage

 

Go Jays Go !

[saskjayfan]

2 minutes ago, Buster said:

The Jay's media went very easy on Schneider last night.  Siddall, KP, Campbell, Madison, and Joseph were all holding back, and you could tell.  They had to criticize him despite being employees of Rogers.  But they just ripped into him, rather than completely decimating him, which is what they could/should have done.  It was one of the single stupidest things I've seen a manager do, considering the significance of the moment.  At least it might displace the 8-1 blown lead and the early yanking of Gausman in the last playoff series.  

Hoffman should have been available and should have come in.  Hoffman has been pitching well.

Seranthony was obviously available and pitches much better with clean innings.

Atkins should be fired for not understanding how to build a bullpen in the off season or the trade deadline. 

Schneider's decision last night with Little is a fire-able offense.  

I would have been fine with Hoffman coming in after Little's tire fire, but I actually thought Bassitt was the guy for that spot.  Seranthony can be a bit wild. Bassitt deals with jams all year long. I just think he handles his emotions best in a spot like that. I think he would come in with something to prove.

[Alejandro Murphy]

Trey now with two pressurized playoff games under his belt.

 

Preparing for his third game should give him a good perspective of what’s what.

 

If we win tomorrow…

 

Game 7 should be all hands on deck

I expect Bieber to start

Gausman, Scherzer, Bassit and Lauer as relievers should be available over Little and Varland.

 

Schneider is a big boy, he can recover from the worse Managerial decision of his career

 

 

 

 

[Buster]

9 minutes ago, saskjayfan said:

I would have been fine with Hoffman coming in after Little's tire fire, but I actually thought Bassitt was the guy for that spot.  Seranthony can be a bit wild. Bassitt deals with jams all year long. I just think he handles his emotions best in a spot like that. I think he would come in with something to prove.

There was variations of decisions and we could debate what was the best way to go.

But there was really only one worst decision, and Schneider made it.

[Buster]

9 minutes ago, Alejandro Murphy said:

Trey now with two pressurized playoff games under his belt.

 

Preparing for his third game should give him a good perspective of what’s what.

 

If we win tomorrow…

 

Game 7 should be all hands on deck

I expect Bieber to start

Gausman, Scherzer, Bassit and Lauer as relievers should be available over Little and Varland.

 

Schneider is a big boy, he can recover from the worse Managerial decision of his career

 

 

 

 

I actually expect Trey to dominate tomorrow.  The Mariners don't deal well with spin, and Trey learned from the other performances, and probably from Max.  I expect to see a lot of his splitter and his wacky slider tomorrow.

[Masterbather]

f***

[SeranthonySantander]

41 minutes ago, Buster said:

I actually expect Trey to dominate tomorrow.  The Mariners don't deal well with spin, and Trey learned from the other performances, and probably from Max.  I expect to see a lot of his splitter and his wacky slider tomorrow.

Yea easy win tomorrow guaranteed.  Then they have Kirby for game 7, who sucks.  

[Brownie19]

5 hours ago, neverbeenhere said:

Booing JS will let him know he screwed it up and we don't like it.

Great insight there bud.

[Laika]

At least we aren't Brewers fans. 

Embarrassed by the Dodgers and now they are "likely to trade Freddie Peralta" 

[St.Anley]

Sadly, JS has made equally as terrible decisions.... Remembering a few years back, pulling Berrios in the playoffs, for absolutely no reason. He's a dummy.

 

[Omar]

3 minutes ago, Laika said:

At least we aren't Brewers fans. 

Embarrassed by the Dodgers and now they are "likely to trade Freddie Peralta" 

Nothing to be embarrassed about when the other team just buys championships.

The defending World Series champion Dodgers are poised this year to spend a record $509.5 million in payroll and projected luxury tax. The Brewers play in the smallest market in the big leagues, and their entire payroll of $124.8 million doesn't even approach Los Angeles' projected luxury tax bill of nearly $168 million.

[hanton]

27 minutes ago, Omar said:

Nothing to be embarrassed about when the other team just buys championships.

The defending World Series champion Dodgers are poised this year to spend a record $509.5 million in payroll and projected luxury tax. The Brewers play in the smallest market in the big leagues, and their entire payroll of $124.8 million doesn't even approach Los Angeles' projected luxury tax bill of nearly $168 million.

Both can be true, the Dodgers have a great development system (arguably the best) and a history of promoting many prospects.  Will Smith, Andy Pages, Sheehan, Kershaw are homegrown plus numerous prospects knocking on he door.  The league is littered with ex-Dodger prospects all performing really well: Michael Busch, Miguel Vargas, Corey Seager, Bellinger, McKinstry.   On top of that Muncy was developed at the major level and in previous seasons - Justin Turner and Chris Taylor.  I can go on.....

[Masterbather]

3 minutes ago, hanton said:

Both can be true, the Dodgers have a great development system (arguably the best) and a history of promoting many prospects.  Will Smith, Andy Pages, Sheehan, Kershaw are homegrown plus numerous prospects knocking on he door.  The league is littered with ex-Dodger prospects all performing really well: Michael Busch, Miguel Vargas, Corey Seager, Bellinger, McKinstry.   On top of that Muncy was developed at the major level and in previous seasons - Justin Turner and Chris Taylor.  I can go on.....

And yet they wouldn't be doing anything close to what they're doing right now without gobs and gobs and gobs of money spent.

[neverbeenhere]

 

This got me rolling...

Vladdy speaking perfect englisgh though 

[jaysblue]

6 hours ago, Omar said:

For the record Siddall didn't just criticize the Little move after the fact. He mentioned it while Little was warming in the bullpen. Half the gdt posters also said the same before Little entered the game. Anyone who has watched this team the past my month could see the writing on the wall before Little threw his first pitch. 

Yup I recall that during the game. They came on after the 7th and Siddall said you got to go with your two best pen options for the 8th and 9th inning and that was either Dominguez and Hoffman, whichever order you use them. 

Madison Shipman even said the Jays need to pad onto their run total. She even knows its tough for this team to close out 2-1 games.

[Omar]

5 minutes ago, hanton said:

Both can be true, the Dodgers have a great development system (arguably the best) and a history of promoting many prospects.  Will Smith, Andy Pages, Sheehan, Kershaw are homegrown plus numerous prospects knocking on he door.  The league is littered with ex-Dodger prospects all performing really well: Michael Busch, Miguel Vargas, Corey Seager, Bellinger, McKinstry.   On top of that Muncy was developed at the major level and in previous seasons - Justin Turner and Chris Taylor.  I can go on.....

Give me a break.  No, they're buying championships.  Look at their starting nine.  I'll give you Pages that's it.

  

[Jonn]

21 minutes ago, Omar said:

Give me a break.  No, they're buying championships.  Look at their starting nine.  I'll give you Pages that's it.

  

I feel the Yankees lineup was more scary and the Mariners have more raw power. Good lineup no doubt. Ohtani is the only one that really makes you want to s*** your pants