YESAVAGE BEING PROMOTED

[Terminator]

[Laika]

Wow!!

[Spanky__99]

Sweet!

 

[Brownie19]

It's f*cking go time boys.  It's the right move.  Let's go!

[Terminator]

The World Series will be easy to make 

[glory]

Nice! Wonder what the corresponding roster move will be. 

[Jays24]

Jays got some tough decisions ahead.  Who are they going to let go/demote to bring him up?  

In another 4 days or so, who are the Jays going to release/demote for Bo/Santandar? 

My guesses are Borucki, Loperfido and IKF.  

[glory]

4 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Jays got some tough decisions ahead.  Who are they going to let go/demote to bring him up?  

In another 4 days or so, who are the Jays going to release/demote for Bo/Santandar? 

My guesses are Borucki, Loperfido and IKF.  

Yeah, Lauer has essentially been the long man and spot starter since they acquired Bieber. That role can now be filled by Yesavage. In that scenario, it doesn't make sense to have both Lauer and Borucki on the roster. Just use Lauer as the second LHP out of the pen, and drop Borucki. That seems to be the most logical move here. Unless someone is going on the IL, hopefully not. 

[Jays24]

4 minutes ago, glory said:

Yeah, Lauer has essentially been the long man and spot starter since they acquired Bieber. That role can now be filled by Yesavage. In that scenario, it doesn't make sense to have both Lauer and Borucki on the roster. Just use Lauer as the second LHP out of the pen, and drop Borucki. That seems to be the most logical move here. Unless someone is going on the IL, hopefully not. 

I thought the Jays would have to put someone on the IL in order to get Yesavage playoff eligible since its past August 31.  Let's see

[John_Havok]

Just now, Jays24 said:

I thought the Jays would have to put someone on the IL in order to get Yesavage playoff eligible since its past August 31.  Let's see

They would yeah. He can only be added to post season rosters as an injury replacement

 

[John_Havok]

17 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Jays got some tough decisions ahead.  Who are they going to let go/demote to bring him up?  

In another 4 days or so, who are the Jays going to release/demote for Bo/Santandar? 

My guesses are Borucki, Loperfido and IKF.  

Coukd they do with Bloss what they did with Pina? Call him up and stick him on the 60-day IL to free up the 40 man spot, then option someone like Fisher again?

Or is a strait DFA of Borucki more likely/easier

[max silver]

15 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

I thought the Jays would have to put someone on the IL in order to get Yesavage playoff eligible since its past August 31.  Let's see

If don't think it necessarily needs to be a recent IL stint to use Yesavage as an injury replacement. I believe that an older injury such as Yimi Garcia could be used in the petition to MLB but I'm not certain about this.

[Masterbather]

MY ATHEISM IS HEALED!!

PRAISE THE BABY JESUS!! 

EVERYBODY GETS A ❤️ FROM ME!!

 

[max silver]

14 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

MY ATHEISM IS HEALED!!

PRAISE THE BABY JESUS!! 

EVERYBODY GETS A ❤️ FROM ME!!

 

[Doubleplay21]

Bassitt was taken out due to back issues, maybe Yesavage takes his spot...just a wild guess.

[max silver]

Just now, Doubleplay21 said:

Bassitt was taken out due to back issues, maybe Yesavage takes his spot...just a wild guess.

I believe this was largely precautionary in nature and Schneider wanted the pen to get a bit of work after several days off.

[Omar]

I guess someone is going to step on a baseball and twist an ankle before sunrise tomorrow.

[Omar]

LIke a Boss!!!

[Spanky__99]

5 hours ago, max silver said:

If don't think it necessarily needs to be a recent IL stint to use Yesavage as an injury replacement. I believe that an older injury such as Yimi Garcia could be used in the petition to MLB but I'm not certain about this.

Yeah, it'd be for Sandlin.

[Grant77]

22 hours ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Bassitt was taken out due to back issues, maybe Yesavage takes his spot...just a wild guess.

He's already been announced as the starter in game 4, so I wouldn't think so. This is just an extra day of rest for each starter.

[jaysblue]

[thatoneguy]

After those first two hitters, dominant.

[Gen.Disarray]

Beisbol magic. A new kid debuts like a stud, our pen slams the door on our nemesis, our closest rival gets blown out . Amazing that a day of games which started so nervy ends in such elation. This is why we watch, folks. And the peasants rejoice 

[hanton]

I guess he passed the challenge

MLB debut - check.  Dominated

[Omar]

I think we have to pump the brakes before we anoint him the next Verlander. He looked amazing and no doubt is going to be good but it is still just one start and it was the Rays. Sounds like the Jays are planning to give him further starts, likely when the division is locked up. 

That said I wouldn't mind the Jays taking a shot and giving him a start in the playoffs against the Yankees/Bosox. A guy they have never seen before and with his delivery could mystify them. 

[Laika]

First Stuff+ measurements say:

113 Stuff+ and 91 Location+

111 FA, 122 Split, 105 SL

 

113 Stuff+ on a qualified SP is pretty special, so if he can hold anywhere near that over a large sample size and if command is not problematic, he could be special. Location+ takes more time to mean anything (I think) but we can tell from his MiLB numbers that the command probably isn't great at this point in time. 

 

I keep going back to Kodai Senga as a comp but seeing this, that's probably more of a healthy "floor" comp. Like, if the command is a true minus and the slider kind of loses it's shape of effectiveness and he is mostly a two pitch dude.

Lots of ways his career could go. Hopefully he stays healthy. But when you start by looking at guys like Senga or Gausman, it's a good sign.  

[John_Havok]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

First Stuff+ measurements say:

113 Stuff+ and 91 Location+

111 FA, 122 Split, 105 SL

 

113 Stuff+ on a qualified SP is pretty special, so if he can hold anywhere near that over a large sample size and if command is not problematic, he could be special. Location+ takes more time to mean anything (I think) but we can tell from his MiLB numbers that the command probably isn't great at this point in time. 

 

I keep going back to Kodai Senga as a comp but seeing this, that's probably more of a healthy "floor" comp. Like, if the command is a true minus and the slider kind of loses it's shape of effectiveness and he is mostly a two pitch dude.

Lots of ways his career could go. Hopefully he stays healthy. But when you start by looking at guys like Senga or Gausman, it's a good sign.  

Gausman stuff+ on his 4 seamer - career 98, location 108

splitter... 105/104

slider... 95/93

Overall career stuff 101/105

 

Yesavage is starting from a pretty good place with those numbers. 1 start caveat of course but that seems to track with his minor league numbers

[max silver]

Posted this for those who don't subscribe to the excellent Future Jays newsletter. 

Future Blue Jays Newsletter

Vol XIII No 17
 

Welcome to the special Trey Yesavage edition.

First off - I’m a Day One Blue Jays guy, whose parents allowed him to take the afternoon off school to watch that snowy home opener nearly a half century ago.

And I have never seen such a scintillating starting pitching debut as Yesavage’s performance last night.

He had his moments in the first inning - which is to be expected. Not only has that been Trey’s routine with each start at a new level, but with a number of pitchers in the organization. As much as the Blue Jays have changed their pitching philosophy to Owning the Zone, subconsciously, as a pitcher reaches a new level, they know they’ll be facing guys who don’t chase as much as those at his former level did. And that tends to make them nibble, whether they realize it or not, often out of a fear that their stuff won’t be quite as good, or if they’re in the zone with it too much, they’ll get hit.

But when Andres Gimenez made that nice play on a slow roller over Yesvage’s head in the first inning, that seemed to slow the game down for the organization’s top pitching prospect. After allowing that first inning run, he went on a bat-missing spree.

And I suspect this start on this date in this location was the plan for Yesavage all along. So much of his season was mapped out beforehand. While he easily had the talent to start at AA, the pitching development staff knew he had some things to work on, most noticeably a third pitch - he even resurrected his curveball at Dunedin. Low A hitters were no match for Yesavage, but as my regular readers will know, farm director Joe Sclafani told me back in June that their analysts had done studies on the effect of the cold, moisture-laded Pacific air of the Northwest League on pitch movement. Yesavage needed time against professional hitters, and as inexperienced as Florida State League competition might have been, to learn to harness command of all three of his pitches.

Finally came the promotion to Vancouver, but his time in a C’s uniform was brief. When I reached out to one of my contacts in the system (who spoke off the record) about his seemingly quick ascension to AA, he told me, “The battle is not with the league. We want to challenge him to be his big league self going forward, and he needs competition of the league to help that. AA will give him that.”

The plan for Yesavage to reach the big leagues, then, was already in place by June. As I have written, the jump from High A to AA is the biggest in the minors (outside of the leap from AAA to MLB). Guys at AA have a plan, whether it’s hunting a certain pitch and/or certain location. But Yesavage met and passed this challenge with flying colours.

It was at about this time that I had begun to take notice of his splitter. Initially, I thought he was using it more often, but it turns out that learning to command his fastball, especially to left-handed hitters, made the pitch even more effective. Again, I went to my source to ask what work they had done on the pitch with him. Surprisingly, the answer was not a whole lot. East Carolina, Yesavage’s college team, had worked with him extensively on the pitch. “We worked mostly on fastball command,” says the source. “We also worked on spin breakers to leverage difference off the split, for count leverage to both platoons……but the ticket is (his) fastball command. Being able to stick a heater in each quadrant when needed allows for his secondaries to play accordingly.”

This would fit with what Jays’ MiLB pitching director Justin Lehr told me last week. It’s not necessarily one pitch, but a pairing of pitches, with a third thrown in to keep hitters off balance that is the focus of their development plans. It was that fastball command, with the thought of the splitter in Tampa hitters’ heads, that was the key last night.

That Yesavage made his first start in a minor league park against a team that will not face him in the playoffs was all part of the plan; the date had probably been circled on the player development staff calendar since early in the season.

Now, I’m not quite ready to pencil him in as, say, a game three starter in the playoffs. Word is going to get around the league, and while his delivery is no doubt unique and hard to prepare for, there is a ton of video available for hitters to watch. It will be his next outing(s) that will really tell the tale. If there’s reason for optimism, it’s that all three of his pitches come from almost exactly the same release point; hitters will need multiple looks to pick up on other aspects of his delivery, and the Blue Jays have timed his debut to limit the chances of that.

And not to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but……I have gotten a definite sense that the organization views Gage Stanifer, who pitched at three levels himself this year, as being on at least the same level as Yesavage. Stanifer is a year behind in terms of development, but thinking about the two being in the rotation in the second half next season is truly nice to think about. 

[Laika]

Staniferrrr 

[Nexii]

Robbed of an immaculate inning. It'd be so much hype if the ump didn't make a major error