General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Terminator]

Why is Alan Roden still on the big league team?

He's started twice in the last 8 games.

 

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, Spanky99 said:

There must be something wrong with Robertson, injury, too much money, etc... cause I know the Jays and many other teams alike could use him.

The only reason Toronto could use him is to trade him at the deadline...

[Brownie19]

9 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Why is Alan Roden still on the big league team?

He's started twice in the last 8 games.

 

Because if he's lucky, he'll be a 4th or 5th OFer at the ML level and needs to learn how to remain somewhat useful while never playing.  That's my guess at least.

 

In the meantime, can someone show him how to hold a bat property?

[Terminator]

Put Leo Gimenez on the 60-day

Add the Final Boss of all slap hitters, Michael Stefanic

Option Roden

Stefanic will show the team how to properly slap hit with a .300 AVG and .310 SLG.

If you think about it he could really ignite the offense by showing other slap hitters like Vlad and Bo how it's done.

[Brownie19]

19 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Put Leo Gimenez on the 60-day

Add the Final Boss of all slap hitters, Michael Stefanic

Option Roden

Stefanic will show the team how to properly slap hit with a .300 AVG and .310 SLG.

If you think about it he could really ignite the offense by showing other slap hitters like Vlad and Bo how it's done.

Sounds like the cleanup hitter we need!

[hanton]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Why is Alan Roden still on the big league team?

He's started twice in the last 8 games.

 

why doesn't someone ask Schneider this question during the post game presser, him and barger are supposed to be the future (?) and they're not kids it's now or never for them

[Spanky99]

3 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

The only reason Toronto could use him is to trade him at the deadline...

K.....

[Spanky99]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Put Leo Gimenez on the 60-day

Add the Final Boss of all slap hitters, Michael Stefanic

Option Roden

Stefanic will show the team how to properly slap hit with a .300 AVG and .310 SLG.

If you think about it he could really ignite the offense by showing other slap hitters like Vlad and Bo how it's done.

Seriously though, it makes sense cause Roden needs reps in Buffalo. One too many OF'ers on this roster and it's full tard.

[Pendleton]

Jays called up Braydon Fisher, the RHP acquired from the Dodgers last summer for Biggio. 

 

 

 

 

[hanton]

1 minute ago, Pendleton said:

Jays called up Braydon Fisher, the RHP acquired from the Dodgers last summer for Biggio. 

 

 

 

 

never heard of him but I bet he has a good FB

[Terminator]

13 minutes ago, Pendleton said:

Jays called up Braydon Fisher, the RHP acquired from the Dodgers last summer for Biggio. 

 

 

 

 

Wait we actually got someone in return for Craig Biggio's son?

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, Spanky99 said:

Seriously though, it makes sense cause Roden needs reps in Buffalo. One too many OF'ers on this roster and it's full tard.

Welp, they optioned Roden but they called up Clase instead.

Probably means Lukes isn't going to play much.

[John_Havok]

1 minute ago, Terminator said:

Welp, they optioned Roden but they called up Clase instead.

Probably means Lukes isn't going to play much.

May as well keep throwing s*** at the wall, eventually something has to stick...right?

 

Right!?

[Steeljays]

Clase is a pinch runner. Nothing else. I don't understand this organization 

[saskjayfan]

12 hours ago, Terminator said:

Welp, they optioned Roden but they called up Clase instead.

Probably means Lukes isn't going to play much.

I not sure I really believe in Lukes, but until he stops hitting, why would he sit?  His OPS+ is 19% above league avg.  Sitting him seems nonsensical. 

[G-Snarls]

Started season 12-8

Have gone 4-12 since 

[Terminator]

3 hours ago, saskjayfan said:

I not sure I really believe in Lukes, but until he stops hitting, why would he sit?  His OPS+ is 19% above league avg.  Sitting him seems nonsensical. 

Yeah idk why they don't just go with a Lukes/Straw platoon in LF for now.

Lukes has been playing well, his defense is solid for LF and even though he's pretty inexperienced he doesn't have a deer in the headlight approach that the rest of these Buffalo Boys seemingly have. 

[Terminator]

I suppose we have faced two lefties in a row so maybe Lukes will still factor in.

[Carlos Danger]

I might as well find my post from last year and copy and paste.

As AA has said and astute baseball people will tell you, to judge whether a team is worth investing in at the trade deadline or sooner is the run differential.

The 2015 Blue Jays Team was a few games under .500 or hovering around for the first half of the year. However, they had a +125 run (hyperbole, but it was high) differential or something.

As long as this team is averaging -35 run differential it is turd that can look polished at times, but is still a turd!

 

[Laika]

Don't need your fancy run defferentul math to know the team is full of turds

Just watch them play! 

Like a bunch of Mr Hanky the Christmas Poos running around out there!!!

[Omar]

This team is so anti clutch they need someone with the clutch gene. Just pay and get JD Martinez if for nothing else to get his mojo to rub off on others. This team is a s*** show right now. 

[Brownie19]

28 minutes ago, Omar said:

This team is so anti clutch they need someone with the clutch gene. Just pay and get JD Martinez if for nothing else to get his mojo to rub off on others. This team is a s*** show right now. 

Good luck getting Rogers to waste another $5M - $10M on this roster.  They aren't morons.  THE SEASON IS OVER.

Every decision from here on out should be based on evaluating players within the org and setting up certain players to gain value for trade near the deadline.

And for f*ck sakes, don't run Hoffman/Garcia out there every other day and destroy their arms to "try" and win another meaningless game.

[Omar]

"They aren't morons."

To be determined. 

Payroll is at a quarter of a billion dollars per annum. $5-10 million is a pittance. 

But I can guarantee they do not consider the season over. 

[Brownie19]

20 minutes ago, Omar said:

"They aren't morons."

To be determined. 

Payroll is at a quarter of a billion dollars per annum. $5-10 million is a pittance. 

But I can guarantee they do not consider the season over. 

We're now projected to win 79 games, 5th last in the AL and even that seems like the projects are still artificially inflated by pre-season expectations.

Remember when the projection systems thought the entire lineup was going to be > 100 wRC+?  

[Omar]

Even with a Bo bounce back and Vladdy going on a tear did anyone on this board think that they would win more than 85 games?

I optimistically thought that they would win 84 games this season. They should be around .500 with a respectable Vladdy season and Bo being Bo along with Springer and his dead cat bounce.  

[G-Snarls]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Don't need your fancy run defferentul math to know the team is full of turds

Just watch them play! 

Like a bunch of Mr Hanky the Christmas Poos running around out there!!!

Tick, tock, tick, tock. Sh*t clocks tickin', Rick

[connorp2]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

Good luck getting Rogers to waste another $5M - $10M on this roster.  They aren't morons.  THE SEASON IS OVER.

Every decision from here on out should be based on evaluating players within the org and setting up certain players to gain value for trade near the deadline.

And for f*ck sakes, don't run Hoffman/Garcia out there every other day and destroy their arms to "try" and win another meaningless game.

WOW. A board changes over and personalities with it. You would roast someone in 2024 for this take, at the same period.

Also, where are all people “AJ Preller is a terrible GM” and Ross Atkins is a ninja

 

[glory]

25 minutes ago, Omar said:

Even with a Bo bounce back and Vladdy going on a tear did anyone on this board think that they would win more than 85 games?

I optimistically thought that they would win 84 games this season. They should be around .500 with a respectable Vladdy season and Bo being Bo along with Springer and his dead cat bounce.  

They basically needed the pitching to collectively repeat 2023 while Vlad and Bo performed like stars at the same time. The former was never going to happen, and the latter has only happened once (2021). I guess it was possible (85+ wins), but not very probable unless a lot of things broke right. The run differential is a very accurate assessment of this team's talent level right now. It's not a good team by any metric. 

As far as Rogers being morons, they bid against themselves and gave a 1B $500M. That's on top of essentially giving Ross Atkins a blank check to spend into the upper tier of the entire sport. This is an ownership group that didn't want to add a dime to the 2014 payroll at the trade deadline when the Jays were actually in a playoff spot, but gave Atkins the green light to save the Guardians $110M over 5 years by absorbing Gimenez and Straw's contracts.  I think questioning their baseball intelligence is fair, although as an ownership group in general they are good (high payroll).

[Nexii]

40 minutes ago, glory said:

They basically needed the pitching to collectively repeat 2023 while Vlad and Bo performed like stars at the same time. The former was never going to happen, and the latter has only happened once (2021). I guess it was possible (85+ wins), but not very probable unless a lot of things broke right. The run differential is a very accurate assessment of this team's talent level right now. It's not a good team by any metric. 

As far as Rogers being morons, they bid against themselves and gave a 1B $500M. That's on top of essentially giving Ross Atkins a blank check to spend into the upper tier of the entire sport. This is an ownership group that didn't want to add a dime to the 2014 payroll at the trade deadline when the Jays were actually in a playoff spot, but gave Atkins the green light to save the Guardians $110M over 5 years by absorbing Gimenez and Straw's contracts.  I think questioning their baseball intelligence is fair, although as an ownership group in general they are good (high payroll).

I'd say it was probable that the Jays would be an 85 win team. Projections had them there on average.

Too many players massively underperforming projections. There's not much left to do at this point other than clean house, both front office and team managers

[BB17]

25 minutes ago, Nexii said:

I'd say it was probable that the Jays would be an 85 win team. Projections had them there on average.

Too many players massively underperforming projections. There's not much left to do at this point other than clean house, both front office and team managers

Projections were like 81-83 wins and that was with Scherzer actually making 20 starts. Take his 2 win projection away and this team is basically exactly that a 79 win team.

The team is over performing right now in terms of wins and how they’ve played which just shows you how bad things have been.