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36 minutes ago, JaysFan99 said:

I'm curious about this...is it normal for agents to lie and say they got a higher offer elsewhere to make a team bid against themselves?

I would say no, it's not normal to lie. There is a game to be played but most people who want a long career as a player agent would not be out there lying. 

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1 hour ago, BTS said:

Perma ban during the playoffs for PMing people telling them to end themselves 

It’s incredible what sports fandom can do to a grown man’s mind

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This Bregman 

11 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

X and Facebook are a veritable treasure trove of Red Sox anger and resentment right now. 

It's glorious. 

You aquire Bregman without discussing it with your franchise 3B, he has a fit and you trade him 2 years into his 10 year contract. Then, you fail to keep Bregman around afterwards anyway because of terrible front office negotiating tactics. 

Fans are PISSED 

Yeah this is peak front office mismanagement.

Of course Bregman wanted a no trade clause after watching the Red Sox ship out Betts and Devers. And Boston refusing to give him one just reinforces their reputation as a team wants the ability to trade star players on a whim.

Now they've dug themselves into a hole, any free agent worth a damn is going to point to this and ask for an NTC. And if/when the Sox refuse, it just means they’ll have to pay extra to get guys to sign with them. But they aren't a team that pays a premium so they'll probably continue to get outbid. 

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2 hours ago, BTS said:

Perma ban during the playoffs for PMing people telling them to end themselves 

 

All of those years and I had no idea that Grant was short for Granted a perma ban

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3 hours ago, glory said:

The Yankees have apparently offered 5/155, which Bellinger/Boras turned down as they want 7 years. No issues with Belly going back to the Yankees for that type of money.

At that price point, they should be smart by pivoting to Tucker instead.  

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

But why

Apparently Arizona is only paying him 5M in 2026 and 6m in 2027 so I kind of get it. Cheap dice roll on a guy who projects as league average as a hedge against Lawlar not being ready to contribute. 

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He looks completely washed.

His fielding is still solid but his bat looks atrocious. Pathetic exit velos to pair with a high launch angle.

He already has a really high Pull AIR% so I don't think he can sell out for more power. His K rate is super low so maybe he can spread his hits around more? But then you've got a 3B with single digit homers...

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3 minutes ago, BTS said:

Apparently Arizona is only paying him 5M in 2026 and 6m in 2027 so I kind of get it. Cheap dice roll on a guy who projects as league average as a hedge against Lawlar not being ready to contribute. 

Okay if the Cards are paying that much of his salary then it makes a lot more sense

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From the article: “If the New York Mets are in the range of offering $120 million to $140 million over three years to free-agent outfielder Kyle Tucker, as league sources on Tuesday suggested is the case, the question is whether that will be enough”. 

“Multiple industry sources suggested that a decision from Tucker, who turns 29 on Saturday, could come as early at this week”.

Community Moderator
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Arenado for $5m and $6m is hilarious 

Just a funny sequence of events to see two teams pay so much money to get rid of Nolan Arenado, a borderline HOFer (or easy HOFer if you think the GGs carry the case, which they probably do). 

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If Tucker is $45m AAV on a short deal with opt outs, he's probably $35m or so AAV in a longer term deal 

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As listed above:

The top free agent of the offseason is still unsigned with about a month to go until pitchers and catchers report to spring training. Some recent reporting, including from Jim Duquette of MLB Network Radio, has suggested the Blue Jays, Dodgers and Mets are the top suitors for Kyle Tucker at this point. All three have recently met with Tucker, either in person or over Zoom, per Duquette. Will Sammon of The Athletic reports today that the Mets are in the range of offering him $120MM to $140MM on a three-year deal. Sammon says Tucker could make his decision as soon as this week.

Who here is in on Tucker for 3/140? 

Personally... f*** yes. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Laika said:

If Tucker is $45m AAV on a short deal with opt outs, he's probably $35m or so AAV in a longer term deal 

Yeah something like 9 years, 320 million might get him. TO is a better fit than NY and the Mets. 

Still, 9/320M is a giant commitment and it's hard to say if the Jays want to give him that after all the money they've doled out this year.

It seems like they would given their previous high profile pursuits, but they may have fallen in love with Okamoto and feel like that's enough for now. 

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Posted

Tucker may going to have to settle for a high AAV deal that's shorter with opt outs 

It's the new way 

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Hasn’t there already been reporting that the Jays have a long term offer out for Tucker? This seems like last minute posturing by his agent to extract as much out of the Jays as possible. I just can’t see him accepting a short term deal given his recent injury history. And he’s not as young as Bellinger was when he was going to year to year with opt outs. 

I may be wrong, but this makes me even more confident that we’ll land Tucker. 

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22 minutes ago, Ray said:

Hasn’t there already been reporting that the Jays have a long term offer out for Tucker? This seems like last minute posturing by his agent to extract as much out of the Jays as possible. I just can’t see him accepting a short term deal given his recent injury history. And he’s not as young as Bellinger was when he was going to year to year with opt outs. 

I may be wrong, but this makes me even more confident that we’ll land Tucker. 

I strongly believe Jays have had the highest offer on the table for both Bo and Tucker, for the last 2 months.

Question is, do they want to play here. And HOW MUCH higher do we have to outbid the Dodgers/Phills/Mets?

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13 minutes ago, Ray said:

Hasn’t there already been reporting that the Jays have a long term offer out for Tucker? This seems like last minute posturing by his agent to extract as much out of the Jays as possible. I just can’t see him accepting a short term deal given his recent injury history. And he’s not as young as Bellinger was when he was going to year to year with opt outs. 

I may be wrong, but this makes me even more confident that we’ll land Tucker. 

Atkins should offering same contract offer to Cody Bellinger that he did with Tucker. If Tucker really wanted sign here, he will already have done it, instead weating Mets or another team match Jays offer to sign elsewhere. Funny to say, but this seem easier for Atkins to negotiate with Boras this offseason, and so far we signed 2 of his clients (Cease, Okamoto) So just give him the 7/240 he want.

Posted
1 minute ago, glory said:

Murray is legit. So I guess Mets offer is 3/150. 

Similar offer they did in past with Scherzer and Verlander. 

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Posted
48 minutes ago, Ray said:

Hasn’t there already been reporting that the Jays have a long term offer out for Tucker? This seems like last minute posturing by his agent to extract as much out of the Jays as possible. I just can’t see him accepting a short term deal given his recent injury history. And he’s not as young as Bellinger was when he was going to year to year with opt outs. 

I may be wrong, but this makes me even more confident that we’ll land Tucker. 

Well it's just the Bregman thing on a bigger scale

Bregman took $40M for a year from BOS and then got $155M present value this offseason, making his effective deal(s) 6/$195M combined.  

If Tucker is looking at 9/$35m AAV (315M) from Toronto and comparing that to 3/$47m AAV with opt outs from the Mets, it's right for him to think about it. 

He could take $50M from the Mets for 2026 and then just try to beat 8/$265M next offseason to be in the green. And he probably would unless he sucks or gets hurt. 

Posted

It's overpaid for Tucker, he don't worth 50m annualy. If we can get Bellinger 35 m annualy for 6-7 years will be better invest than overpaid for Tuck for similar offensive stats. Or maybe trade with the Cards for 2B Brendan Donovan, so we can keep Clement at 3B, Barger/Lukes RF, and Santander/Okamoto LF.

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