Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Stangstag]

19 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

These AAVs are insane. Teams are just completely forgoing the back end of the bad contracts and throwing out silly values for the short term. Bo basically made half of what he was projected to get over 8 years in a 3 year deal.

Yup and he can still sign a long-term when he hits free agency again at age 30.

This sucks, i wonder if 8/250 would have been enough 

[Abomination]

Apparently he gets 5M if he opts out too. Depending on the breakdown, he may have just gotten 47M for one year.

[Stangstag]

I hope we don’t massively overpay for Bellinger now…

[The_DH]

6 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Spanky's insider source was wrong. 

Aren't the sources the Butler boys?  

[Laika]

I'm not assuming Bo will be bad at 3B. If someone can hang at SS at all, they can probably play an average 3B. 

[max silver]

21 minutes ago, Ray said:

Morosi just said Mets expect him to play 3B 

uh….they do know about his 36th percentile arm strength…right? 

There are plenty of very good third basemen with similar arm strength. I think accuracy may prove to be a bigger concern although I thought Bo had largely cleaned up the throwing errors from earlier in his career so he may prove to be just fine at third base.

[Brownie19]

I'd have taken Bo on that deal all day long.  

[Terminator]

1 minute ago, Laika said:

I'm not assuming Bo will be bad at 3B. If someone can hang at SS at all, they can probably play an average 3B. 

Yeah I think those concerns are being overblown. He should be okay at 3B. 

[Orgfiller]

How much does Dylan Cease get if he’s still available in free agency at this point? 3/140? Ross Atkins and team with some excellent timing locking him down early to reasonable terms.

[glory]

It's Nightengale, so take it for what it is. 

[Terminator]

That Okamoto signing looks really friggin' good in retrospect too.

• Bo making 42 mil this year
• Okamoto making 15
• Both are playing 3B

Bo will need to put up something like a 9 WAR season to win the WAR per dollar comparison lmao

[Abomination]

1 minute ago, Terminator said:

Yeah I think those concerns are being overblown. He should be okay at 3B. 

Doesn't he have more trouble moving to his left than his right?

[Terminator]

Bo's deal also includes $5 million dollar opt out bonus. So if he opts out he's getting $47 million for one year!

[sliderguy35]

i wonder if the plan is to generally have schneider operate as the strong / weak side of 2 different platoons considering how neutral his splits have been over his career.

• playing more 2B against righties to prevent ernie from having to play against every righty & let him come in as a defensive replacement
• playing more OF against lefties to spell barger against some of the tougher left handers

 

also wouldn't discount the possibility of a return if bo has a great season & opts out after 2026, lotta money coming off the books and not a lot of young middle infield talent in the system outside of nimmala & jojo (neither of which are 2nd basemen)

[jaysblue]

2 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

How much does Dylan Cease get if he’s still available in free agency at this point? 3/140? Ross Atkins and team with some excellent timing locking him down early to reasonable terms.

Ranger Suárez signed for 5 years just a couple days ago. I think Cease still signs a 5 or 7-year deal from someone. 

Pitchers are more inclined to seek long-term deals rather than short-term contracts, given the inherent injury risk.

[The_DH]

I gotta admit, I wanted Bo back as 2b was a pivotal position, but I also wanted a healthy Bo who's good for 140 games.  Less likely.  

[Brownie19]

6 minutes ago, Abomination said:

Doesn't he have more trouble moving to his left than his right?

He now has Lindor on his left and his replacing Vientos at 3rd.  Something tells me they'll be perfectly happy with his defense.

[Governator]

Hot damn.... missing out on both is painful.  The good news is both went to NL teams and this isn't us vs Dodgers or us vs Mets in any capacity.  We are a better team than we were last year, Bo & Tucker hit the market at the perfect time with no real positional player stars coming to market for a few years.  I'm happy for Bo to be honest, we weren't going to pay that and he got his bag. He might be back in a few years, who knows.

[JaysFan99]

13 minutes ago, glory said:

It's Nightengale, so take it for what it is. 

So the Jays could have just offered him 7/210 in the first place and never bothered with Tucker.  Bo has never won a playoff series in his career and I doubt he wins one in New York.

[glory]

I might be alone on this, but I like the NBA style contracts that MLB players are signing for (higher AAV, fewer years). You can make exceptions here and there, but I'd much rather have <5 years of a player in his latter prime than 10+ where you're eating an unknown number of dead years. Bo getting $126M over 3 years is so much better than $200M over 7, too. Even if he doesn't opt out and goes Tim Anderson over the next 3 years, he still made out better than had he taken the Phillies offer. 

[Olerud363.354]

4 minutes ago, sliderguy35 said:

i wonder if the plan is to generally have schneider operate as the strong / weak side of 2 different platoons considering how neutral his splits have been over his career.

• playing more 2B against righties to prevent ernie from having to play against every righty & let him come in as a defensive replacement

There was an argument about this a while back, and while it at first appears that Schneider has a significant advantage over Clement against righties, when you adjust for sample size it is almost nothing.  However if you really want to get into the weeds you could argue about the sample size adjustments. 

What about Barger at second base sometimes?  Then you get a Lukes/Varsho/Satlander/Giminez/Barger all in against a tough righty, and find out if this is feasible in the case of playoff weirdness or long term injury to Giminez or Clement. 

As a 'casual' I totally get that Barger doesn't have great range, but World Series Bo on one knee didn't have great range either.  It seems like in the playoffs they were willing to do non-perfect defense first part of games, so you wonder if Barger at second first half of a game is do-able. 

[Governator]

1 minute ago, JaysFan99 said:

So the Jays could have just offered him 7/210 in the first place and never bothered with Tucker.

I mean.... they went for the better player and had cash to spend.  There's also a chance Bo was checked out of Toronto long ago.

[Funky]

I guess if we pivot to Bellinger and we don’t have to worry about Tucker coming, straw and his money can be shipped out

also protect us against Varsho walking in the off-season

Definitely not my first choice but decent option with all the positions he plays.

[Stangstag]

10 minutes ago, Governator said:

I mean.... they went for the better player and had cash to spend.  There's also a chance Bo was checked out of Toronto long ago.

Yeah, there were signs that Bo didn’t really want to come back here. It is what it is. 

Its frustrating that we always seem 1 more piece away from having a perfect offseason. Like yes this was a great offseason, but feels like we needed 1 finishing touch to put the cherry on top. Kinda feels like we may be done.

[G-Snarls]

Well it's a sad day 

[L54]

 

[mphenhef]

41 minutes ago, Laika said:

I'm not assuming Bo will be bad at 3B. If someone can hang at SS at all, they can probably play an average 3B. 

For range sure, but I am not confident he has the arm for it.

[JaysFan99]

This has probably been discussed, but what would a trade for Brendan Donovan cost?  

[mphenhef]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

Yeah, there were signs that Bo didn’t really want to come back here. It is what it is. 

Its frustrating that we always seem 1 more piece away from having a perfect offseason. Like yes this was a great offseason, but feels like we needed 1 finishing touch to put the cherry on top. Kinda feels like we may be done.

I feel like there were more signs the Jays weren’t super keen on having him back then him not wanting to come back.

[Ball4Life]

Donovan or Bellinger, I guess. Or nothing. Nothing probably.