Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The irony is that a Tucker signing probably means Straw is as good as gone from the Jays org. I think Its the opposite. The team keeps Straw around and gets rid of someone else to further build into the power of friendship if Tucker signs. If we sign Bo then Straw gets DFA'd lol
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, L54 said: I felt pretty confident in Tucker. That confidence is now waning… Feels like the Mets and Jays offers got leaked for the Dodgers to up their last offer. Yes, ive been hurt too many times by that franchise :(
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, Jays24 said: I think Its the opposite. The team keeps Straw around and gets rid of someone else to further build into the power of friendship. If we sign Bo then Straw gets DFA'd lol If the Jays sign Tucker, they will almost certainly be doing with the expectation of Springer, Straw and some other contracts coming off book in 2027. Straw is not cheap....
Sorrow Verified Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 If we sign Tucker I’d almost guarantee it means Lukes is gone and probably Clase. You’d want a backup CF and probably a right handed bat. Stangstag 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, Terminator said: Imagine Straw doing all this recruiting and then getting DFA'd for his buddy lol.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Just now, Jays24 said: Imagine Straw doing all this recruiting and then getting DFA'd for his buddy lol. He'll understand he's a team player
glory Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 The Jays acquired Straw a year ago and absorbed like 90% of his contract when no team on earth would have absorbed any of it. Then he went out and actually performed in addition to being a vibes/clubhouse guy on a team that thrived in part because of their clubhouse. I doubt he's in any danger of losing a spot regardless of who they bring in. My guess is Lukes is on the outside looking in right now. If they add Tucker and keep Santander, then DS's spot might be in jeopardy as well. I'm also getting the sense that Tucker is signing elsewhere. Maybe it's because we've been here before, and the Jays usually act in silence, so if there's smoke, my usual instinct is to not believe it, but we will see. Eat My Shatkins 1
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Just now, glory said: The Jays acquired Straw a year ago and absorbed like 90% of his contract when no team on earth would have absorbed any of it. Then he went out and actually performed in addition to being a vibes/clubhouse guy on a team that thrived in part because of their clubhouse. I doubt he's in any danger of losing a spot regardless of who they bring in. My guess is Lukes is on the outside looking in right now. If they add Tucker and keep Santander, then DS's spot might be in jeopardy as well. I'm also getting the sense that Tucker is signing elsewhere. Maybe it's because we've been here before, and the Jays usually act in silence, so if there's smoke, my usual instinct is to not believe it, but we will see. It's a business first and foremost. If the Mets AAV of $50 million is even close, our long term deal would need to be $38-$40 and not heavily deferred. The Jays would have to dump money in other areas. Straw is $11 million a year... The math doesn't math for what he is....
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Nobody is going to want to pay Straw so you aren't saving money by cutting him. You could cut him for baseball reasons (he is your worst projected player) or asset retention reasons (he won't get claimed, so you can DFA him and outright him to AAA). I don't think they will really do that, since he is the only backup CF on the 40 man. Clase/Loperfido don't seem to have the skills or instincts. But they could outright him off the 40 temporarily as a sneaky asset retention thing and give him the business explanation of "this changes nothing it's just a procedural move, you probably still break camp with us"
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 The Phillies media is saying the offer to Bo is $360 AAV $40 Million... Assuming Tucker's contract comes in higher than Bo, which is industry consensus, and to beat the Met's higher AAV on a shorter contract, the Jays would probably need to come in around $385/$390 @ 10?? What say you???
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 minutes ago, Laika said: Nobody is going to want to pay Straw so you aren't saving money by cutting him. You could cut him for baseball reasons (he is your worst projected player) or asset retention reasons (he won't get claimed, so you can DFA him and outright him to AAA). I don't think they will really do that, since he is the only backup CF on the 40 man. Clase/Loperfido don't seem to have the skills or instincts. But they could outright him off the 40 temporarily as a sneaky asset retention thing and give him the business explanation of "this changes nothing it's just a procedural move, you probably still break camp with us" Yea, I think he comes off the books in 2027 with Springer correct? What they could do, is what Cleveland did to us, and package him in a trade (not as the centerpiece) just as someone the receiving team takes on to get our other younger, more talented or controllable player.. I think the Jays FO will have to get creative in shedding some salary regardless if they sign Tucker or resign Bo... It might not be to start the season, but I think by the trade deadline they would want to shed some salary to take on anything additional they would need at the deadline. (All assuming they do sign a Tucker or Bo).
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The Phillies media is saying the offer to Bo is $360 AAV $40 Million... Assuming Tucker's contract comes in higher than Bo, which is industry consensus, and to beat the Met's higher AAV on a shorter contract, the Jays would probably need to come in around $385/$390 @ 10?? What say you??? lol what Spanky__99, Jays24 and Orgfiller 3
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Just now, Carlos Danger said: Yea, I think he comes off the books in 2027 with Springer correct? What they could do, is what Cleveland did to us, and package him in a trade (not as the centerpiece) just as someone the receiving team takes on to get our other younger, more talented or controllable player.. I think the Jays FO will have to get creative is shedding some salary regardless if they sign Tucker or resign Bo... It might not be to start the season, but I think by the trade deadline they would want to shed some salary to take on anything additional they would need at the deadline. (All assuming they do sign a Tucker or Bo). Why do you think this? Straw's contract is a drop in the bucket now. The Jays have a $300M payroll.
mphenhef Verified Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The Phillies media is saying the offer to Bo is $360 AAV $40 Million... Assuming Tucker's contract comes in higher than Bo, which is industry consensus, and to beat the Met's higher AAV on a shorter contract, the Jays would probably need to come in around $385/$390 @ 10?? What say you??? I say that is a freaking ridiculous contract for Bo and I can't imagine it is true. Stangstag, Perfect Game, Spanky__99 and 2 others 5
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 minute ago, mphenhef said: I say that is a freaking ridiculous contract for Bo and I can't imagine it is true. Quite possibly that is what Boras is asking vs what the Phils are actually offering.. Stangstag 1
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The Phillies media is saying the offer to Bo is $360 AAV $40 Million... Assuming Tucker's contract comes in higher than Bo, which is industry consensus, and to beat the Met's higher AAV on a shorter contract, the Jays would probably need to come in around $385/$390 @ 10?? What say you??? That offer to Bo is insanity
mphenhef Verified Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Quite possibly that is what Boras is asking vs what the Phils are actually offering.. He is not repped by Boras.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Carlos are you okay Stangstag and Spanky__99 2
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I might have read some fake s*** then...... My apologies, I'm an idiot... Regardless, my point and estimate reference the Tucker contract probably still holds true...
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Announce the Tucker to Toronto signing you cowards BringBackTheODog 1
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 41 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The Phillies media is saying the offer to Bo is $360 AAV $40 Million... If that were true, Bo would already be a Philly. JaysFan99 1
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 14 Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: If that were true, Bo would already be a Philly. Yeah, no chance that's true
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said: The irony is that a Tucker signing probably means Straw is as good as gone from the Jays org. Why would that be? Straw still fills the role as backup center fielder as the organization doesn't have anyone else better suited to this task. Eat My Shatkins, abola2121 and JaysFan99 3
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 If Myles Straw uses the power of friendship to entice his buddy Kyle Tucker to sign with the Blue Jays, not only is he not going anywhere but he can bat leadoff on Sundays for all I care Funky, Spanky__99, Stangstag and 2 others 2 2 1
JaysFan99 Verified Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 36 minutes ago, Terminator said: Announce the Tucker to Toronto signing you cowards Now SNY analyst Jim Duquette is saying the Mets added a fourth year. If it’s 4 years for $200M then that’s looney tunes.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said: The Phillies media is saying the offer to Bo is $360 AAV $40 Million... Assuming Tucker's contract comes in higher than Bo, which is industry consensus, and to beat the Met's higher AAV on a shorter contract, the Jays would probably need to come in around $385/$390 @ 10?? What say you??? That’s absolutely nutty. I wouldn’t go over 250ish for Bo personally. Terminator 1
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 14 minutes ago, Terminator said: If Myles Straw uses the power of friendship to entice his buddy Kyle Tucker to sign with the Blue Jays, not only is he not going anywhere but he can bat leadoff on Sundays for all I care Dude better not be trolling us with this recent Tucker post…
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Translation - Tucker is signing with Toronto but using the Mets to try and milk more money out of Rogers Stangstag 1
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted January 14 Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, Laika said: Translation - Tucker is signing with Toronto but using the Mets to try and milk more money out of Rogers Welp, that's much better than it being the other way around for a change. Come on Tucker, sign with the Jays and let's win some World Series banners. abola2121 and Stangstag 2
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