Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Pendleton]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Mitch Bannon says that the Jays recent pursuit of Tucker has become "more aggressive."

 

[Jonn]

Depth is very nice to have. You can't just look at the roster and say where is everyone going to play. These things always have a way of figuring themselves out. Whether it's injuries, under performance, someone coming out of nowhere to steal playing time. There's always crazy things that happen you actually end up wanting to add after thinking you had enough.

You're signing Tucker or Bo to upgrade the overall talent of the roster and making the pieces fit later. There's creative ways they can keep everyone involved. You might see more built in rest days, even more platoons, Ernie can play a lot more SS. They don't have to be married to guys like Gimenez playing everyday. He will get the bulk of the starts at SS. But he doesn't need to start they could start Ernie there and sub in Giminez in later for defense while moving Ernie to Third for defense.

It's really fun for the first time that I can remember were talking about having to much talent for only so many spots. 

[G-Snarls]

John Schneider has shown himself quite adept recently at making use of his whole roster of position players 

[Joltin Joe]

Would we interested in Marte? If No leaves? Arizona has him on trade block

[Jimcanuck]

Just now, Joltin Joe said:

Would we interested in Marte? If No leaves? Arizona has him on trade block

Of course we are.  But d'backs want MLB pitching in return, so the teams don't match up well.

[glory]

If Taters is ok with being more of a bench bat when everyone is healthy, then I think keeping everyone with Tucker, while not the most sensible roster construction, could still work. I think the biggest issue is that the team would be painfully low on infield depth. As of now they have Clement/Gimenez at 2B/SS. Beyond them, DS can play 2B but the team rarely plays him there. Jimenez is out of options. They have Kasevich in AAA who is coming off an injury riddled 34 wRC+ season in AAA. They should be fine at 3B between Okamoto, Barger, and Clement. It's the middle infield that feels a bit dicey, and you're probably looking at two below average offensive starting players at 2B/SS to begin with. 

[Jimcanuck]

3 minutes ago, glory said:

If Taters is ok with being more of a bench bat when everyone is healthy, then I think keeping everyone with Tucker, while not the most sensible roster construction, could still work. I think the biggest issue is that the team would be painfully low on infield depth. As of now they have Clement/Gimenez at 2B/SS. Beyond them, DS can play 2B but the team rarely plays him there. Jimenez is out of options. They have Kasevich in AAA who is coming off an injury riddled 34 wRC+ season in AAA. They should be fine at 3B between Okamoto, Barger, and Clement. It's the middle infield that feels a bit dicey, and you're probably looking at two below average offensive starting players at 2B/SS to begin with. 

I think its fine.

2B - Clement, Giminez, Schneider

SS - Giminez, Clement

3B - Okamoto, Clement, Barger

With respect to SS, teams don't typically have more than 2 SS capable players on the roster.  There's plenty of AAAA guys playable at SS that can be added to Buffalo.  Those types of adds take place closer to ST.

[JaysForever]

I cannot believe people think signing either Tucker or Bo creates a problem.

I already showed in a prior post that you could sign both and things would still be fine.

You just end up with better players on the bench. It is not like Barger and Clement have massive salaries either.

The players that will become expendable are Lukes or maybe Schneider, or both. You do not turn down Tucker or Bo just to keep these players.

 

 

 

 

[JaysForever]

5 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

I think its fine.

2B - Clement, Giminez, Schneider

SS - Giminez, Clement

3B - Okamoto, Clement, Barger

With respect to SS, teams don't typically have more than 2 SS capable players on the roster.  There's plenty of AAAA guys playable at SS that can be added to Buffalo.  Those types of adds take place closer to ST.

I have been toying with the idea of trading Berrios and Straw to the Tigers for some package including Javier Baez.

Baez has played alot of CF, and he can hit LHP very well. He also can play across the entire infield. He basically fills Straw's role and more. I thought Schneider may become a roster casualty so they may need a better right handed bat on the bench.

His contract is terrible but to trade Berrios, they have to accept a bad contract. Baez has a shorter contract so there is that.

 

 

[Spanky__99]

10 minutes ago, JaysForever said:

I cannot believe people think signing either Tucker or Bo creates a problem.

I already showed in a prior post that you could sign both and things would still be fine.

You just end up with better players on the bench. It is not like Barger and Clement have massive salaries either.

The players that will become expendable are Lukes or maybe Schneider, or both. You do not turn down Tucker or Bo just to keep these players.

 

 

 

 

"You do not turn down Tucker or Bo just to keep these players."

Who the f*ck said that???

 

[Spanky__99]

6 minutes ago, JaysForever said:

I have been toying with the idea of trading Berrios and Straw to the Tigers for some package including Javier Baez.

Baez has played alot of CF, and he can hit LHP very well. He also can play across the entire infield. He basically fills Straw's role and more. I thought Schneider may become a roster casualty so they may need a better right handed bat on the bench.

His contract is terrible but to trade Berrios, they have to accept a bad contract. Baez has a shorter contract so there is that.

 

 

Just stop, Jesus Christ.

[Daniel Labude]

1 hour ago, JaysForever said:

I cannot believe people think signing either Tucker or Bo creates a problem.

I already showed in a prior post that you could sign both and things would still be fine.

You just end up with better players on the bench. It is not like Barger and Clement have massive salaries either.

The players that will become expendable are Lukes or maybe Schneider, or both. You do not turn down Tucker or Bo just to keep these players.

 

 

 

 

And in general Lukes, Schneider, and even Clement are bench players/utility options. Gimenez should be as well, but probably won't be. Barger could be the trade piece for a closer 

[jaysblue]

If the Jays do look to trade Berríos, they’ll likely need to either absorb a bad contract in return or include cash to make the deal work.

Javier Báez is one possible option ($23M AAV for two more seasons) compared to Berríos ($19M AAV for three more seasons). That said, it’s not an especially appealing fit - a healthy Berríos is probably the more valuable asset, particularly given how quickly rotation depth can be tested by injuries.

Nolan Arenado is another potential target, and his salary over the final two seasons is actually more manageable than it first appears. He’s owed $27M in 2026, with Colorado covering $5M (effectively $22M), followed by $15M in 2027.

[Brownie19]

Baez ended the year with an 84 wRC+?   That's insane after he made the all-star game.  Pure nose dive in the 2nd half.

[max silver]

15 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Baez ended the year with an 84 wRC+?   That's insane after he made the all-star game.  Pure nose dive in the 2nd half.

I thought Baez was having a really nice bounceback season and didn't realize how badly he fell off in the second half of the season. He experienced a world class slump from late June to late September where he vomited out a 29 wRC+ over 55 games/181 PA. It's wild that the Tigers kept running him out to the field so frequently as he was a -0.6 FWAR player over this period. I'd infinitely rather see the Blue Jays just keep Berrios if it required taking Baez back in trade.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Maaaan c'mon Tucker please pick us. Don't do us like Soto and Ohtani did.

[Stangstag]

47 minutes ago, max silver said:

I thought Baez was having a really nice bounceback season and didn't realize how badly he fell off in the second half of the season. He experienced a world class slump from late June to late September where he vomited out a 29 wRC+ over 55 games/181 PA. It's wild that the Tigers kept running him out to the field so frequently as he was a -0.6 FWAR player over this period. I'd infinitely rather see the Blue Jays just keep Berrios if it required taking Baez back in trade.

Yikes

[Stangstag]

16 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Baez ended the year with an 84 wRC+?   That's insane after he made the all-star game.  Pure nose dive in the 2nd half.

Teams remembered they don’t need to throw him any strikes and he’ll swing anyways 

[sliderguy35]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

Teams remembered they don’t need to throw him any strikes and he’ll swing anyways 

the funny part is: his rate of pitches in the zone from the first 3 months to the last 3 months didn't even change (48.3% in both halves), he just start swinging more (swing rate increased by 7%) and making less contact (contact rate down by 6%). 

he chased over 50% of pitches out of the zone (preposterous) from july 1st on and had a walk rate of 0.5% (yes, that decimal is in the right place) in his final 183 PA.

not ideal!

[glory]

Heyman is a known stooge for Boras, so who knows if that's true, but if Bo really thinks that highly of himself, then I feel like he's a massive pillow contract candidate in a month or so. 

[max silver]

6 minutes ago, glory said:

Heyman is a known stooge for Boras, so who knows if that's true, but if Bo really thinks that highly of himself, then I feel like he's a massive pillow contract candidate in a month or so. 

Bo isn't a Boras client.

[mphenhef]

12 minutes ago, glory said:

Heyman is a known stooge for Boras, so who knows if that's true, but if Bo really thinks that highly of himself, then I feel like he's a massive pillow contract candidate in a month or so. 

Two things:

 

1. Boras doesn't represent Bo.

2. I also want $300 million to do my job.  Neither Bo nor I will be getting that.

[Pendleton]

 

[glory]

13 minutes ago, max silver said:

Bo isn't a Boras client.

I know, just stating that Heyman is a shill for Boras, so what he says about stuff like this should take that angle into consideration. I don't recall if it was Heyman or Sherman, but there was a "Tucker doesn't like baseball" narrative thrown out from one of them recently. A lot of it is probably just BS. 

[Pendleton]

 

[Jays24]

Sign Bo AND Tucker... trade Varsho and run with a Straw/Lukes platoon at CF. 

Flame away lol.

[max silver]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

Sign Bo AND Tucker... trade Varsho and run with a Straw/Lukes platoon at CF. 

Flame away lol.

That would stand to weaken the center field position on both sides of the ball. I'd rather see them work out an extension with Varsho personally.

[JaysForever]

On 1/7/2026 at 7:05 PM, jaysblue said:

If the Jays do look to trade Berríos, they’ll likely need to either absorb a bad contract in return or include cash to make the deal work.

Javier Báez is one possible option ($23M AAV for two more seasons) compared to Berríos ($19M AAV for three more seasons). That said, it’s not an especially appealing fit - a healthy Berríos is probably the more valuable asset, particularly given how quickly rotation depth can be tested by injuries.

Nolan Arenado is another potential target, and his salary over the final two seasons is actually more manageable than it first appears. He’s owed $27M in 2026, with Colorado covering $5M (effectively $22M), followed by $15M in 2027.

I am basically looking for a shorter contract in a position useful to the Jays. It is basically playing musical chair, replacing an overpaid Berrios with another overpaid player. But there has to be some advantage for the Jays to do it, a shorter contract or better fit roster size. The options are very slim when you take a look around the league. Most likely Berrios starts with the Jays and the team crosses their fingers that Berrios can regain some of his value. It is better to gamble on the pitcher than the position player.

[JaysForever]

1 hour ago, max silver said:

That would stand to weaken the center field position on both sides of the ball. I'd rather see them work out an extension with Varsho personally.

I am waiting for Buxton who has a no trade to demand a trade to the Jays, after the Jays finalize their allstar starting lineup. 😄  These players with no trade clauses basically only want to move to clear contenders.

[Jays24]

1 hour ago, max silver said:

That would stand to weaken the center field position on both sides of the ball. I'd rather see them work out an extension with Varsho personally.

Yes it would but im just choosing Bo or Tucker over Varsho considering the alternatives we have at the moment.

Varsho is repped by Boras and will cost A LOT.  Just not sure what his extension will look like.