Come on Vlad!!!

[Big_Walleye]

On 10/10/2025 at 10:52 AM, Terminator said:

A lot of people on this board owe Vlad an apology.

Normally, I'd suggest you all get together and combine on a big Swiss Chalet gift card for him but:

1. he can afford to eat there on his own accord, and
2. we don't need him eating that many calories anyway.

I think a normal apology works in this situation so all of you haters and losers (of which there are many) need to start fessing up.

Who's going to start?

I'm going to revoke my apology pretty soon. 

[Olerud363.354]

13 hours ago, Big_Walleye said:

I'm going to revoke my apology pretty soon. 

I feel like long term trends are just not what humans are meant to react to.  Like I guess long term tiger migration pattern maybe less important than short term tiger positioning so only need to react to short term.

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

[Olerud363.354]

1 minute ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

Don't get me wrong.  No hate for Vlad.  Could make the hall of fame if he can avoid Prince Fielder problems and keeps on hitting missiles on the ground until he is 40.  Or maybe he will find the next mode someday... maybe in Seattle mid-week.  Then we will all love him again. 

[mphenhef]

I was thinking I might start a gofundme to crowdfund a really good Hypnotist to convince Vlad every opponent is the Yankees.

[SeranthonySantander]

38 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I feel like long term trends are just not what humans are meant to react to.  Like I guess long term tiger migration pattern maybe less important than short term tiger positioning so only need to react to short term.

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

there's a guy on here with one of those tiger rocks.  Like a tiger repellant.

[Big_Walleye]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I feel like long term trends are just not what humans are meant to react to.  Like I guess long term tiger migration pattern maybe less important than short term tiger positioning so only need to react to short term.

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

The postseason is a short term trend being the problem.  The less you perform the shorter it is.  

The team was firing on all cylinders against the Yankees now they've all seemingly gone cold.  I guess we need to give credit to Seattle pitching. It would be easier for Vlad to perform if he had some help for sure.  If Kirk, Barger and Varsho were dangerous behind him things would be different.

Short term Tiger positioning has them on the sidelines.  It's the long term migration of the Mariners that's giving us problems.😄

[Olerud363.354]

10 minutes ago, Big_Walleye said:

It's the long term migration of the Mariners that's giving us problems.

If you go back 5 years long term Mariners have more wins than the Jays.   Is their division easier?  With Houston in it, and 2023 World Champions I have a hard time believing that. 

Run differential last 5 years Jays win.  However that is mostly from 2021.  

What I am saying is this.  Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners going back 5 years are pretty even.  Going back 2 days they are not very even.  The Seattle Mariners are far, far better.   Going back 5 weeks they are not even.  Seattle Mariners are far better.  Going back 1 year even again.

Should we hire Seattle's hitting coach for Vlad?  Or Aaron Judge's hitting coach?  (Yankees apparently want our hitting coach). 

[SeranthonySantander]

The jays were going to revolutionize the game after the ALDS, like sabermetrics in early 2000s.  But no, I think we're good with lots of strikeouts and dingers.

[Big_Walleye]

16 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

If you go back 5 years long term Mariners have more wins than the Jays.   Is their division easier?  With Houston in it, and 2023 World Champions I have a hard time believing that. 

Run differential last 5 years Jays win.  However that is mostly from 2021.  

What I am saying is this.  Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners going back 5 years are pretty even.  Going back 2 days they are not very even.  The Seattle Mariners are far, far better.   Going back 5 weeks they are not even.  Seattle Mariners are far better.  Going back 1 year even again.

Should we hire Seattle's hitting coach for Vlad?  Or Aaron Judge's hitting coach?  (Yankees apparently want our hitting coach). 

 

8 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said:

The jays were going to revolutionize the game after the ALDS, like sabermetrics in early 2000s.  But no, I think we're good with lots of strikeouts and dingers.

The dingers and strikeouts lineup should be pitchable with the scrappy type Jays lineup being less so providing you locate your pitches.  When you've got guys like Varland who throw it middle middle it usually doesn't end well.

When the Jays are scrappy AND hit homers like they did against the Yankees they're next to unbeatable.  That's just not happening atm (credit Seattle pitching).

The divisions they play in are fairly even with the perennially bad Angels being the difference.

[mphenhef]

3 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

If you go back 5 years long term Mariners have more wins than the Jays.   Is their division easier?  With Houston in it, and 2023 World Champions I have a hard time believing that. 

Run differential last 5 years Jays win.  However that is mostly from 2021.  

What I am saying is this.  Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners going back 5 years are pretty even.  Going back 2 days they are not very even.  The Seattle Mariners are far, far better.   Going back 5 weeks they are not even.  Seattle Mariners are far better.  Going back 1 year even again.

Should we hire Seattle's hitting coach for Vlad?  Or Aaron Judge's hitting coach?  (Yankees apparently want our hitting coach). 

The top of the divisions are similar sure, but the Athletics lost over 100 games twice and 90 games once in that time frame.  The Angels have averaged over 90 losses in that time.  The Rangers have averaged close to 87 losses including 102 in 2021.  Only one team in the AL East has had a 90 loss season in the last 5 years and it was just one year(2021 Orioles).

[Masterbather]

f*** this bum.

[BTS]

110 wRC+ in his first year of a 500M deal is absolutely humiliating for him.

[Laika]

I get second hand embarrassment at this point whenever he comes up to hit

You just KNOW the best thing that he can do is a hard groundball 

He is physically and mentally incapable of hitting the baseball hard and in the air 

He is a broken man

He doesn't just need a mechanical adjustment, he needs a spiritual advisor 

[max silver]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

110 wRC+ in his first year of a 500M deal is absolutely humiliating for him.

That's an awful look considering how he essentially held the organization hostage with his ridiculous contract demands.

[Governator]

Relax, he's going to hit 100 bombs* 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*over the next 14 years.

[Terminator]

Vlad says "don't worry about me I'll be fine". 

I mean okay sure but we are playing important games RIGHT NOW. I get preaching patience but it's time to get on it bud, this slump has gone on long enough.

[BTS]

3 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Vlad says "don't worry about me I'll be fine". 

I mean okay sure but we are playing important games RIGHT NOW. I get preaching patience but it's time to get on it bud, this slump has gone on long enough.

It’s also been like half the season. Like, it’s great that you’ll be fine but you’ve already cost the team wins by playing like s*** for 70 games 

Even a 4-war season is basically off the table now and he’s being paid to put up 5+ 

[Terminator]

He could be one of the best hitters in the league if he had a good approach. The hit tool/power combo is elite.

They had some crazy stat yesterday where he's hitting .312 when behind in the count. Early in the count he needs to look middle in and try to hit homers. Then when he gets two strikes he can do his stupid slap hitting. If he did that he could hit .290 with 35 homers easy.

The entire league is trying to hit homers right now. Even Myles Straw gets up to the plate trying to do it. But not Vlad, he's slapping at balls low and away and pounding them into the ground.

[Stangstag]

On 10/13/2025 at 6:52 PM, Big_Walleye said:

I'm going to revoke my apology pretty soon. 

Honestly i can live with this regular season Vlad IF he pops off in the playoffs.

What he did in the 2025 postseason was astounding 

[Governator]

8 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Honestly i can live with this regular season Vlad IF he pops off in the playoffs.

What he did in the 2025 postseason was astounding 

 

Sorry to be that guy, but popping off in the postseason can only happen if we make the postseason.

[Masterbather]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

Honestly i can live with this regular season Vlad IF he pops off in the playoffs.

What he did in the 2025 postseason was astounding 

No we can't live with this in the regular season. We need this ******* to make the postseason.

Besides, how about the other postseasons when he was absolute s***? Remember the pickoff of second base because of how much of an idiot he is?

This motherf***er doesn't get to live off of one great month. Especially when we have seen these immense power outages over the course of the last three regular seasons.

His power is progressively getting worse.

He's supposed to be in his prime.

It's year one of that embarrassing contract.

[Masterbather]

Oh and by the way, what's up with this guy not running to first base anymore? 

I understand it's not worth tearing a quad gunning it on a routine ground ball but even ground balls were the fielder might have to make a tough play and you want to at least force a rushed throw this guy is just cruising at this point. He's 10 feet from the base. There's a very obvious decline in his base running effort this year.

[Laika]

22 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Oh and by the way, what's up with this guy not running to first base anymore? 

I understand it's not worth tearing a quad gunning it on a routine ground ball but even ground balls were the fielder might have to make a tough play and you want to at least force a rushed throw this guy is just cruising at this point. He's 10 feet from the base. There's a very obvious decline in his base running effort this year.

There is a theory floating around on twitter that he is playing through a serious lower body injury 

Not engaging his lower half in his swing being the possible source of his issues

meh 

[Laika]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

It’s also been like half the season. Like, it’s great that you’ll be fine but you’ve already cost the team wins by playing like s*** for 70 games 

Even a 4-war season is basically off the table now and he’s being paid to put up 5+ 

More than half a season. Here he is in the regular season since August 1st of 2025:

• 485 PA
• 11 HR
• .127 ISO
• 115 wRC+
• .284/.359/.411
• 1.7 fWAR

Ernie Clement in the same sample.... 113 wRC+ with 11 homers. 

[Laika]

I mean he has LITERALLY become the low end version of Yandy Diaz.

2021  Yandy Diaz. 

[james jones]

$500M for Luis Arraez clone... Gross 🤢

[Masterbather]

59 minutes ago, Laika said:

There is a theory floating around on twitter that he is playing through a serious lower body injury 

Not engaging his lower half in his swing being the possible source of his issues

meh 

I kind of wish that was true because at least there would be an explanation and there's an end in sight. 

But we've seen this type of thing out of him several times in the last few seasons, never quite this bad but, It's like he's aging in dog years. 

Except for one magical month where he finally looked like the mega MVP superstar we thought he was. 

Make it make sense.

[Big_Walleye]

The Yankees seem to bring out the best in Vladdy so here's hoping that the breakout starts tonight.  

BV is the team's most dangerous hitter right now so how about batting him behind Vlad and leaving him there for a while.

[Olerud363.354]

On 6/11/2026 at 2:06 PM, Laika said:

I mean he has LITERALLY become the low end version of Yandy Diaz.

2021  Yandy Diaz. 

If someone said I give you 100% chance that Vlad will be as good as 2020-2026 Yandy Diaz for the next 7 years you take it right?   Like that would be 20 WAR, no absolutely awful seasons.  Contending for batting titles.  Popping 25 homers once or twice.  And never being a monster but never disaster.

Like right now he is low end Yandy Diaz, and moving to up to good Yandy Diaz would be awesome.  

Like if you had to give up a chance of Vlad returning to 2021 Vlad, for a guarantee he is Yandy Diaz, not just the bad version but some good too, you take it now.  Don't you? 

[Olerud363.354]

On 6/11/2026 at 2:05 PM, Laika said:

More than half a season. Here he is in the regular season since August 1st of 2025:

• 485 PA
• 11 HR
• .127 ISO
• 115 wRC+
• .284/.359/.411
• 1.7 fWAR

Ernie Clement in the same sample.... 113 wRC+ with 11 homers. 

But he was awesome for a month in between ....  That was with 

5 off, 2 game days, 1 off, 2 on, 3 off, 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off, 2 on, 4 off, 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off, 2 on.

17 off 18 games and he was great again ...  and you mention there is a rumor he has some injury, and he does, bad back.   Maybe give him some load management moving forward.