2025 Trade Deadline

[jmomcc]

Salas is honestly interesting to me. If you got him and then just combed their system for a couple of pop up international guys, or pitchers you liked. Stick him in vancouver and see what you have. 

But the shortstop De Vries would be better. 

[Laika]

Ryan McMahon has never had a wRC+ over 97 

[jmomcc]

And he played at coors. 
 

Edit.. um i guess that doesn't matter... park adjusted

[glory]

The Mariners acquiring Suarez after dumping him for nothing a year and a half ago would certainly be something. They'll likely have to give up better prospects for a 2 month rental than what they got for him after 2023 when he had two affordable years of control left. 

As far as McMahon, I think this was the Yankees prioritizing defense over more power (which they have a lot of already). 

[mphenhef]

7 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Salas is honestly interesting to me. If you got him and then just combed their system for a couple of pop up international guys, or pitchers you liked. Stick him in vancouver and see what you have. 

But the shortstop De Vries would be better. 

There is no way they would be including De Vries.

[G-Snarls]

12 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

I don't think it was him settling.  I don't think they wanted to deal with Suarez's defensive shortcomings.

Actually that makes sense

The defense especially on the left side of the infield has been what's losing them games 

[Laika]

Yeah McMahon is like a 2 WAR (full season pace) upgrade for NYY even if he is a meh hitter 

[max silver]

7 minutes ago, Laika said:

Ryan McMahon has never had a wRC+ over 97 

And he has a rather sizable home/away split as well. The Statcast expected home runs chart doesn't show him gaining any kind of home run bump from playing in Yankee Stadium, but they have had success in boosting the success at the plate of their trade acquisitions many times in the past.

[jmomcc]

Maybe it was that mcmahon is a leftie, or the price but kebryan hayes would have been a massive defensive upgrade, and they might have been able to help his hitting. 

[jmomcc]

16 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

There is no way they would be including De Vries.

A 50fv hitting prospect isn't that far away from the difference in varsho and cease. 

[max silver]

3 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Maybe it was that mcmahon is a leftie, or the price but kebryan hayes would have been a massive defensive upgrade, and they might have been able to help his hitting. 

Hayes 61 wRC+ over the last two seasons is MLB's worst with players at a minimum of 700 PA. With McMahon it would require more of an incremental level of improvement required to allow him to reach being a league average bat and he's a far more suitable addition to a team intending to compete. 

[jmomcc]

1 minute ago, max silver said:

Hayes 61 wRC+ over the last two seasons is MLB's worst with players at a minimum of 700 PA. With McMahon it would require more of an incremental level of improvement required to allow him to reach being a league average bat and he's a far more suitable addition to a team intending to compete. 

Hayes is the best 3rd baseman by a mile though this year metrically. They are projected to have similar WAR, and its 88 vs 63 WRC+. This year they have similar value and hayes more directly solves their main weakness. 

[Grant77]

I like the McMahon add for the Yankees. He's a big upgrade for defensive reasons alone and that gives them a pretty solid floor. If they can unlock the bat then it's a big upgrade for pretty much only money, as they didn't really give up anything.

[Eat My Shatkins]

McMahon is like Daulton Varsho lite but at 3B instead of CF.

Decent add for the Yankees on paper.

[Laika]

It's an offensive upgrade more than anything. Oswald Peraza is a very good defender. 

But they go from a hitter who is not MLB viable in Peraza to whatever McMahon does with the bat 

[max silver]

4 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Hayes is the best 3rd baseman by a mile though this year metrically. They are projected to have similar WAR, and its 88 vs 63 WRC+. This year they have similar value and hayes more directly solves their main weakness. 

McMahon is also a very solid defender and I believe he has a more realistic shot to not be a giant black hole offensively. McMahon's numbers away from Coors Field are terrible at 64 wRC+, but Hayes actually manages to be far worse away from home at 36 wRC+.

[Terminator]

McMahon stinks and I'm glad the Yankees traded for him.

• On a contender, he's nothing more than a strong side platoon partner who should be hitting in the bottom 3rd of the lineup. 
• He makes good money and the Yankees are cheaper than they used to be so he's eating up a bunch of payroll the next couple of years.
• He's not Suarez.
• He was the captain of the worst team in baseball history. Guy has a loser pedigree.

If you're the Yankees you have to hope you can unlock something with the stick and get him to pull more flyballs into the little league part of your stadium.

Otherwise, congrats Yankees you just got a strong side platoon partner for Peraza.

[Masterbather]

2 hours ago, glory said:

The Mariners acquiring Suarez after dumping him for nothing a year and a half ago would certainly be something. They'll likely have to give up better prospects for a 2 month rental than what they got for him after 2023 when he had two affordable years of control left. 

As far as McMahon, I think this was the Yankees prioritizing defense over more power (which they have a lot of already). 

Yeah I heard the Yankees weren't really in love with Suarez, they wanted better defense at a more affordable price.

It's a decent move, obviously his bat isn't great but it's close to average against righties, combined with good defense.

He'll be a considerable weakness offensively against lefties, but I guess they'll ride with the downside. 

 

[Terminator]

I'd take a shot on either one of these guys. They can both hit 100 mph consistently.

[John_Havok]

If Helsley is available from the Cards I coukd see Atkins getting that done. 

There were tons of rumors during the winter meetings this past offseason Atkins was trying to trade for him, and we know Atkins doesnt really forget about his targets.

[Jonn]

52 minutes ago, Terminator said:

I'd take a shot on either one of these guys. They can both hit 100 mph consistently.

What are the Rockies even doing at this point? Are they existing just for the sake of existing? That franchise seems to have zero direction and is basically serving as a farm team for the rest of Baseball although they struggle to produce good players. They randomly signed Kris Bryant to a massive deal that has been a disaster. Like what is the gameplan. I don't understand. Atleast with the Pirates we just know that they have a cheap owner.

[hanton]

59 minutes ago, Terminator said:

I'd take a shot on either one of these guys. They can both hit 100 mph consistently.

both of them need to get out of Colorado

[Terminator]

7 minutes ago, Jonn said:

What are the Rockies even doing at this point? Are they existing just for the sake of existing? That franchise seems to have zero direction and is basically serving as a farm team for the rest of Baseball although they struggle to produce good players. They randomly signed Kris Bryant to a massive deal that has been a disaster. Like what is the gameplan. I don't understand. Atleast with the Pirates we just know that they have a cheap owner.

Ownership simply doesn't give a s***.

Denver is a transplant town and they have a great ballpark downtown. Between the transplants, the visiting fans (the Rockies actually advertise to other MLB fanbases), and the Denver people who just want to drink outside, they still have very good attendance. 13th in MLB this year despite sucking so bad.

Ownership has also bought and developed a ton of property surrounding the ballpark and makes a killing off of all of that.

The owner actually does spend a little on MLB payroll, but he hates spending on front office and player development. He's even on record saying that a salary cap should apply to those budgets.

He always hires in house and they run a skeleton front office. He becomes friends with the front office people and the players and won't get rid of people because he's friends with them. I think he just promoted his 35 year old son to run the team.

MLB puts up with it because he often leads negotiations during the CBA and is good cannon fodder to provide cover for the rest of the owners. 

[Perfect Game]

According to Hector, Alcántara has been told he's being traded and has already packed all his things to leave Miami.

https://x.com/hgomez27/status/1948617120453198193

 

[Ray]

Edit: Wrong thread

[june.june]

Atkins should right his wrong and trade Varsho for another middle relief pitcher.  Gimenez too.

or include both with two minor league prospects for a no.1 or no.2 starting pitcher

 

Do it Atkins !

[Stangstag]

5 hours ago, Perfect Game said:

According to Hector, Alcántara has been told he's being traded and has already packed all his things to leave Miami.

https://x.com/hgomez27/status/1948617120453198193

 

I dont trust this dude at all anymore 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Imagine if Burr, Garcia and Sandlin weren't scuffling with injuries all year. This team would almost not need to add anything.

[jmomcc]

15 hours ago, Terminator said:

Ownership simply doesn't give a s***.

Denver is a transplant town and they have a great ballpark downtown. Between the transplants, the visiting fans (the Rockies actually advertise to other MLB fanbases), and the Denver people who just want to drink outside, they still have very good attendance. 13th in MLB this year despite sucking so bad.

Ownership has also bought and developed a ton of property surrounding the ballpark and makes a killing off of all of that.

The owner actually does spend a little on MLB payroll, but he hates spending on front office and player development. He's even on record saying that a salary cap should apply to those budgets.

He always hires in house and they run a skeleton front office. He becomes friends with the front office people and the players and won't get rid of people because he's friends with them. I think he just promoted his 35 year old son to run the team.

MLB puts up with it because he often leads negotiations during the CBA and is good cannon fodder to provide cover for the rest of the owners. 

Its kind of frustrating because its such a unique environment pitching wise that there are probably some very innovative people who would have ideas on how to approach it as an organization. 

[Jonn]

Why does everyone want to trade Varsho all of a sudden lol