General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Omar]

7 minutes ago, Vancouverite said:

I know Scherzer has had his struggles of late

 

But its Max Freaking Scherzer. This is what we got him for, for the big lights, big pressure.

 

Personally there's nobody else other than Scherzer id rather have on the mound this post-season. Some guys are made for the post season in every sport. Every year its the same thing... doesn't matter how regular season was, playoffs they elevate.

 

I have no doubt thats Max and he needs to be in there

It's not 2019.  This is the kind of thinking I'm hoping the Blue Jays avoid.  Perhaps take a look at Sherzer post season in 2022 (Mets) and 2023 (Rangers).  You want that?  Hard pass.

[SeranthonySantander]

I'm not mad at Max for blowing his recent games that we all knew he would blow, he gets a pass because of his history and it really just looks like he wants to be hanging out in a winning dugout.  I don't think he'd be upset if he doesn't play.  Give him a couple innings if our bullpen is taxed.

[PitaBaby]

How about this take? 

 

[Masterbather]

29 minutes ago, Vancouverite said:

I know Scherzer has had his struggles of late

 

But its Max Freaking Scherzer. This is what we got him for, for the big lights, big pressure.

 

Personally there's nobody else other than Scherzer id rather have on the mound this post-season. Some guys are made for the post season in every sport. Every year its the same thing... doesn't matter how regular season was, playoffs they elevate.

 

I have no doubt thats Max and he needs to be in there

His last four postseason starts: 

14.1 IP, 18H, 7ER, 6HR, 11K, 5BB, two wild pitches and a hit batter.

Then of course there's his most recent struggles as his ongoing struggles with the long ball.

Father time is undefeated, you're romanticizing him instead of dealing with reality.

[mphenhef]

44 minutes ago, Vancouverite said:

I know Scherzer has had his struggles of late

 

But its Max Freaking Scherzer. This is what we got him for, for the big lights, big pressure.

 

Personally there's nobody else other than Scherzer id rather have on the mound this post-season. Some guys are made for the post season in every sport. Every year its the same thing... doesn't matter how regular season was, playoffs they elevate.

 

I have no doubt thats Max and he needs to be in there

I think you are right and we could see a dialed in Max in the playoffs, especially with extra rest baked in.  Unfortunately, the numbers don't back this up though.

[Laika]

The Blue Jays are a slave to projections. Rightly so. 

I wonder what would project better as the SP4 - Scherzer or the Varland+Lauer combo? 

[BatFlip]

21 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

I think you are right and we could see a dialed in Max in the playoffs, especially with extra rest baked in.  Unfortunately, the numbers don't back this up though.

 

35 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

His last four postseason starts: 

14.1 IP, 18H, 7ER, 6HR, 11K, 5BB, two wild pitches and a hit batter.

Then of course there's his most recent struggles as his ongoing struggles with the long ball.

Father time is undefeated, you're romanticizing him instead of dealing with reality.

 

This is 41 year old Max Scherzer.  I've seen enough through the end of the year that he belongs in the clubhouse with his old war stories for the kids.

I'd love to be wrong, but I wouldn't be throwing him out there, even with the thin options we have.

[GoBlue41]

I hope the Jays enjoy the underdog role, because I've been seeing a whole lot of predictions out there and not many (if any) of the prognosticators believe in the Jays. That no respect chip on their shoulders might just have to carry them through. 

[Governator]

I wasn't able the join the party here as I was driving back from the states all day but what a way to the end the season. Can't wait now for the Yankees/Sox series, I really hope the Sox rough up the Yankees a bit even if they lose the series I'm fine with it.

As for us... Gausman, Bieber and Yesavage. I'd rather see Lauer/BP throw over Scherzer or Bassit.  Either way, whoever it is and whatever the circumstance, I just hope it's Schneider making all of the calls and not Atkins playing puppeteer again.

[Brownie19]

The issue with Bassitt is you'd likely be starting him on the road in Game 3 or 4 (Game 4 I'd assume).  I think I'd rather go Varland/Lauer.  Unfortunately, I don't think you can start Scherzer.  I think the only way he starts is if there's a situation where someone gets hurt or we're getting rocked and he comes out of the pen and pitches really well, which opens the door for him to start a future game.  Seems unlikely.

It will be very interesting to see how they play this.  Could he piggyback with Trey?  I guess maybe? 

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, mphenhef said:

If they could figure out a way to avoid first inning Scherzer that would be great.  Maybe ~10 days off will help him too.

Thats a trap

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Vancouverite said:

I know Scherzer has had his struggles of late

 

But its Max Freaking Scherzer. This is what we got him for, for the big lights, big pressure.

 

Personally there's nobody else other than Scherzer id rather have on the mound this post-season. Some guys are made for the post season in every sport. Every year its the same thing... doesn't matter how regular season was, playoffs they elevate.

 

I have no doubt thats Max and he needs to be in there

He clearly doesn't have it anymore. I though the same as you early this season, but he looks absolutely washed.

I don't care who he WAS. I care that he sucks RIGHT NOW

[Brownie19]

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[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, PitaBaby said:

How about this take? 

 

COPE

[Ryu In My House]

12 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Wonder how many piss tests the dude has been required to take this year lol. I’d bet like 5+

It is one of the best comeback years I can remember. I was actually okay with the FO releasing him over the winter if they had decided to do that. I thought he was washed. 

[Terminator]

Lmao

[Laika]

15 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Lmao

Hopefully someone told this bean head that the score was 13-4 

What was Brandon Lowe going to do about turning around a 13-4 game? 

[Jays24]

Im a believer in you put your best players right away and worry about future games as it comes, but the Jays do have a tendency to overthink (especially in the playoffs). 

Do you think there's a possibility the Jays line their pitching like to get Bassitt at home instead of the road?

Game 1: Bieber

Game 2: Bassitt/Lauer piggy back

Game 3: Gausman

Game 4: Yesavage

Game 5: Bieber

[GoBlue41]

5 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Is there a possibility the Jays would lineup their rotation like this:Im a believer in you put your best players right away and worry about future games as it comes, but the Jays do have a tendency to overthink (especially in the playoffs). 

Do you think there's a possibility the Jays line their pitching like to get Bassitt at home instead of the road?

Game 1: Bieber

Game 2: Bassitt/Lauer piggy back

Game 3: Gausman

Game 4: Yesavage

Game 5: Bieber

I guess it's possible in order to get Bassitt a start at home. I can't see them doing it but I would understand the reasoning behind it. 

[Brownie19]

If Bassitt was pitching great over the past couple of weeks, I could see them doing this, but it seems highly unlikely they would since Bassitt has been on the IL.

[Orgfiller]

26 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Is there a possibility the Jays would lineup their rotation like this:Im a believer in you put your best players right away and worry about future games as it comes, but the Jays do have a tendency to overthink (especially in the playoffs). 

Do you think there's a possibility the Jays line their pitching like to get Bassitt at home instead of the road?

Game 1: Bieber

Game 2: Bassitt/Lauer piggy back

Game 3: Gausman

Game 4: Yesavage

Game 5: Bieber

Zero chance we aren't lining up Gausman and Bieber for games 1 and 2, in any order. The potential for both of them to pitch twice in a series (if necessary) is significantly more important than whatever home/road splits our SP3 and below have. I think Yesavage is also clearly trending as the game 3 starter, I think you can read a lot into how they scheduled the pitching matchups for the crucial division clinching series against the Rays. Gausman-Bieber-Yesavage are the top 3.

[Masterbather]

25 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Is there a possibility the Jays would lineup their rotation like this:Im a believer in you put your best players right away and worry about future games as it comes, but the Jays do have a tendency to overthink (especially in the playoffs). 

Do you think there's a possibility the Jays line their pitching like to get Bassitt at home instead of the road?

Game 1: Bieber

Game 2: Bassitt/Lauer piggy back

Game 3: Gausman

Game 4: Yesavage

Game 5: Bieber

I don't think they would go this far. 

Bassitt's road numbers are highly skewed by two really bad games he had, one especially against Boston. It's not like he hasn't pitched well on the road at all even if he still has been a better home pitcher. 

I think games 1 and 2 will be exactly who we expect. I think where it gets interesting is games 3 and 4. 

Will they use an opener for one or both games?

Will one of them be a full bullpen game?

Do they trust Yesavage to be a starter or bulk guy for one of those games?

What role, if any, does Scherzer play? 

Would you rather give more innings to Lauer over Bassitt? 

I personally think Yesavage starts game 3, or is the bulk guy after an opener.

Game 4 is the biggest question mark to me.

[thatoneguy]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

Lmao

Rays had the bases loaded in a 5-4 game and Fluharty K'd their best all-around hitter in Aranda.

[Laika]

Mason Fluharty has the biggest set of nuts on the Blue Jays

His performance against Ohtani and the Dodgers was massive when it happened, but hilariously important in hindsight

Such a luxury to have him and Little in the playoffs to wipeout LHB... 

[Masterbather]

37 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Zero chance we aren't lining up Gausman and Bieber for games 1 and 2, in any order. The potential for both of them to pitch twice in a series (if necessary) is significantly more important than whatever home/road splits our SP3 and above have. I think Yesavage is also clearly trending as the game 3 starter, I think you can read a lot into how they scheduled the pitching matchups for the crucial division clinching series against the Rays. Gausman-Bieber-Yesavage are the top 3.

Gausman and Bieber won't both pitch twice in a 5 game series. It would require the game one pitcher to pitch on three days rest and they are not going to do that with either one of these guys. If anything they prefer to pitch these guys with more rest, Bieber coming off of major surgery and Gausman because of velocity issues related to rest.

Besides Gausman and even Bieber right now are not at the level where pitching them is any better than a bullpen game. Neither of them is a Crochet or Skubal.

[Brownie19]

5 minutes ago, Laika said:

Mason Fluharty has the biggest set of nuts on the Blue Jays

His performance against Ohtani and the Dodgers was massive when it happened, but hilariously important in hindsight

Such a luxury to have him and Little in the playoffs to wipeout LHB... 

His emergence is huge for the playoffs.  He's brimming with confidence right now.

 

[Laika]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

His emergence is huge for the playoffs.  He's brimming with confidence right now.

 

I would have lots of confidence too if I had eight balls for nuts 

[G-Snarls]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

His emergence is huge for the playoffs.  He's brimming with confidence right now.

 

Our stopper/fireman

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Im a believer in you put your best players right away and worry about future games as it comes, but the Jays do have a tendency to overthink (especially in the playoffs). 

Do you think there's a possibility the Jays line their pitching like to get Bassitt at home instead of the road?

Game 1: Bieber

Game 2: Bassitt/Lauer piggy back

Game 3: Gausman

Game 4: Yesavage

Game 5: Bieber

I think its more likely they would push Bieber to game 3 for more rest.

[Brownie19]

44 minutes ago, Laika said:

I would have lots of confidence too if I had eight balls for nuts 

There is no doubt that Flu's "Balls+" stat is off the charts.  I was going to make some joke about how he survives on Balls+ alone, but then I realized his Stuff+ is actually really good (which I didn't expect).

Here's video of Flu leaving the dome