General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[gruber9292]

16 hours ago, mphenhef said:

Interesting that his last game he came in relief too (still 89 pitches so not a full on relief appearance).  It makes you wonder what they might be considering in September?

He'll be used if needed as a long man as he won't start especially with Bieber in the mix unless there's an injury. Yesavage coming into the last game in the third inning was by design, get him use to coming in out of the pen and not starting like he's been doing his whole career so far. 

[Spanky__99]

8 hours ago, gruber9292 said:

He'll be used if needed as a long man as he won't start especially with Bieber in the mix unless there's an injury. Yesavage coming into the last game in the third inning was by design, get him use to coming in out of the pen and not starting like he's been doing his whole career so far. 

Correct, they also need to add him to the 40 before Sept. 1st if they want to use him in the postseason, if he excels in September, it's a big plus. Of course this is if they do go that route, I can't see why not.

[Grant77]

58 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Correct, they also need to add him to the 40 before Sept. 1st if they want to use him in the postseason, if he excels in September, it's a big plus. Of course this is if they do go that route, I can't see why not.

After August 15th, he will be able to retain his rookie status and we will still be eligible to get a free pick after next season. I'm not sure if that is a factor.

[Orgfiller]

3 minutes ago, Grant77 said:

After August 15th, he will be able to retain his rookie status and we will still be eligible to get a free pick after next season. I'm not sure if that is a factor.

Doubt he was ever going to get the call before then anyway but it's certainly something they're aware of for these potential late season call ups you would think.

[jaysblue]

Anyone planning to make the drive down to Pittsburgh next week? 

[Ryu In My House]

Regarding Trey Yesavage, if he is added to the 40-man prior to September, and called up in August at some point, he is 100% eligible to play in the playoffs, but if he is called up in September, he is still eligible to play in playoffs, but only as an injury replacement? Either way, it starts his service clock, but this far in the season it should be a big deal.

[AMS528]

DRS must have loved the splits from Vladdy yesterday. He's up to 4.3 bWAR. Good for 8th among position players in the AL. 

Actually I don't even know if DRS takes into account 1B receiving ability. Do any of the defensive metrics consider it? 

[John_Havok]

25 minutes ago, AMS528 said:

DRS must have loved the splits from Vladdy yesterday. He's up to 4.3 bWAR. Good for 8th among position players in the AL. 

Actually I don't even know if DRS takes into account 1B receiving ability. Do any of the defensive metrics consider it? 

Not that I am aware of. Tango stopped by one day and mentioned the difference between 1b guys as far as "picking" goes is pretty narrow, the difference from the worst, to the best on a season long scale is worth a few runs at most. 

[glory]

[Orgfiller]

5 minutes ago, glory said:

We're seeing the likes of Sandy Alcantara and Spencer Strider struggle to come back from TJS effectively, with poor command. And those are guys whose raw stuff were miles ahead of Manoah's prior to the injury. Definitely going to be a long road to see if Manoah puts himself back into back of the rotation starting depth at least.

[John_Havok]

8 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

We're seeing the likes of Sandy Alcantara and Spencer Strider struggle to come back from TJS effectively, with poor command. And those are guys whose raw stuff were miles ahead of Manoah's prior to the injury. Definitely going to be a long road to see if Manoah puts himself back into back of the rotation starting depth at least.

The chances of him coming back to the big squad this season is virtually 0. He'll be optioned to AAA when his rehab timer is up certainly. 

His mechanics are still way out of whack it seems. I know he was never a command king even when he was getting dominant results, but he could still throw strikes reliably

[Spanky__99]

12 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

We're seeing the likes of Sandy Alcantara and Spencer Strider struggle to come back from TJS effectively, with poor command. And those are guys whose raw stuff were miles ahead of Manoah's prior to the injury. Definitely going to be a long road to see if Manoah puts himself back into back of the rotation starting depth at least.

I worry a bit about this with Bieber. Numbers seem fine so far, but the MLB's a different animal.

[John_Havok]

3 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

I worry a bit about this with Bieber. Numbers seem fine so far, but the MLB's a different animal.

True, but at no point has Bieber been walking the planet in his rehab and nearly decapitating batters. 

[infinitebook]

13 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

I worry a bit about this with Bieber. Numbers seem fine so far, but the MLB's a different animal.

Yeah I remember Robby Ray trying a late season return last year from TJS and he wasn't that effective. Needed the offseason to get right. But then theres guys like Verlander who come back and are better than ever. We will see...

[mphenhef]

I wonder if Manoah's pitch count got elevated by lots of foul balls?  He had that issue after his near Cy season where he would get to two strikes early but then the lack of a true putaway pitch would run up the count until he was tired and a mistake was made.

[glory]

Finally. 

[Jays24]

3 minutes ago, glory said:

Finally. 

Been waiting for this news.  He should be back for the next series.

[Terminator]

20 minutes ago, glory said:

Finally. 

I tried telling everyone yesterday and once again I was proven right.

[Jays24]

I kinda wish they had Springer DHing today and playing the OF tomorrow to get him back a day sooner.  

[max silver]

5 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

I kinda wish they had Springer DHing today and playing the OF tomorrow to get him back a day sooner.  

It's possible there wasn't time for this as Buffalo played an early day game today.

[John_Havok]

6 minutes ago, Terminator said:

I tried telling everyone yesterday and once again I was proven right.

THe Barry Horowitz of Jays Centre. 

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, max silver said:

It's possible there wasn't time for this as Buffalo played an early day game today.

You are right... I thought they were playing a 6:30 game. 

[Terminator]

12 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

THe Barry Horowitz of Jays Centre. 

Lol ok this one is good. Love a good pro wrestling reference.

 

[John_Havok]

5 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Lol ok this one is good. Love a good pro wrestling reference.

 

Shows how f*cking old we are too... dammit

[Grant77]

56 minutes ago, glory said:

Finally. 

As John Havok pointed out yesterday, I believe that he returned to Toronto to resolve a dispute between the Blue Jay's doctors and MLB's doctors as to whether or not he was ready to return. The third party obviously agreed with the Blue Jays. 

[Spanky__99]

2 hours ago, infinitebook said:

Yeah I remember Robby Ray trying a late season return last year from TJS and he wasn't that effective. Needed the offseason to get right. But then theres guys like Verlander who come back and are better than ever. We will see...

Huge risk reward, no doubt.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, John_Havok said:

True, but at no point has Bieber been walking the planet in his rehab and nearly decapitating batters. 

Yes, I mention that in the post Big John.

[John_Havok]

11 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Yes, I mention that in the post Big John.

Sorry bud. My Spanky-to-English translator must have been on the fritz for a minute. 

[Masterbather]

3 hours ago, glory said:

🤦🏻‍♂️

[max silver]

1 hour ago, John_Havok said:

THe Barry Horowitz of Jays Centre.