General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Terminator]

13 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

It's hard to comprehend that none (0) of the Buffalo boys can hit.  Roden, Barger, Wagner, Schneider, Loperfido, Clement, Orelvis, Clase, Lukes.

Not 1 can even be a reasonable platoon bat in the majors.  At best, we might have a couple defensive utility players whom you don't want starting for an extended period.  It must be extremely frustrating for them.  They dedicate themselves to this sport for the past decade, work their way up to AAA and actually have a lot of success.  Then they get to the majors and their hopes and dreams are crushed.  They make Ryan Goins look like Barry Bonds offensively.  How depressing.

At least Little and Fluharty look like they might be solid bullpen arms.  Doubt it will last though.  Little probably gets TJS next week and Fluharty will probably be walking 7 per 9 in AAA by the end of May.

Some of the Buffalo boys will stick, but Ross’s plan to fill 3–4 spots with 10 fringe AAA guys is going to be messy and I said us much prior to the season.

It takes time to figure out who belongs, and you often cycle through the duds before landing on someone who produces. Or worse, dump the right guy too soon because he starts cold only to have to go back to him after your 2nd choice fails.

This is why I wanted him to trade some of the AAA guys for something more realistic. Instead, he kept them all, so now we’re stuck rotating these guys until they pop.

We were doing this with 3 lineup spots nightly but with Varsho back it’s down to 2.

Barger’s next, let’s hope he gets hot fast.

[jaysblue]

The issue is the Jays have gone into this season relying on a bunch of Buffalo guys who so far have looked all like duds. Not one of Wagner, Roden, or Barger have been positive contributors offensively. Ideally would have been better having them start the season in Buffalo and calling them up if an injury occurred. 

As well, they are already pretty much a glove-first majority lineup with Gimenez, Kirk, Clement and Varsho. 

Also, doesn't help that your main bats aren't hitting for power like Vladdy, Santander and Bo. 

As for pitching, the rotation is a bunch of 3/4 starters, unless guys like Gausman and Berrios return to their 2023 form. I was tarred and feathered early this month for saying that, but that's the reality. 

Bullpen wise, Hoffman has been fantastic and Yimi has been rock solid. Even guys like Brandon Little and Nick Sandlin (before his injury) have been reliable. 

[jaysblue]

2 hours ago, L54 said:

Andres Gimenez since people were suggesting the breakout was possible 

.127/.222/.155 

wRC+ of 15 

The core of Kirk, Gimenez and Vladimir looking good!! 

Back in early April, there were some posters so excited having a core of Kirk, Gimenez and Varsho to build around lol. 

[xposbrad]

9 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Back in early April, there were some posters so excited having a core of Kirk, Gimenez and Varsho to build around lol. 

Same posters who thought Travis Snider was going to be the next Mike Trout lol? There's not much to be excited about, Jays need to rebuild for several years and new management.

[Masterbather]

How many organizations are in a more bleak situation than us? 

Not only with the payroll and lack of real prospects, but we don't have a ton of assets on the Major League roster with a lot of value especially considering the contracts they have.

We have a couple of relievers with value, if Bo hits reasonably well in the next few months he might have value, Gausman and maybe Bassitt. If Max can show us anything in the next couple of months, that could get us a piece. Varsho perhaps. That ain't much value to work with.

[Masterbather]

Just now, xposbrad said:

Same posters who thought Travis Snider was going to be the next Mike Trout lol? There's not much to be excited about, Jays need to rebuild for several years and new management.

Lol. I remember arguing with people on the old board about how much I thought Travis Snider sucked. There was a lot of delusion around him. He had a half decent season for Pittsburgh or something but just watching him at the plate I could tell he wasn't ever going to be special. The ability to run into a fastball from time to time doesn't make one special.

[jaysblue]

16 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

How many organizations are in a more bleak situation than us? 

Not only with the payroll and lack of real prospects, but we don't have a ton of assets on the Major League roster with a lot of value especially considering the contracts they have.

We have a couple of relievers with value, if Bo hits reasonably well in the next few months he might have value, Gausman and maybe Bassitt. If Max can show us anything in the next couple of months, that could get us a piece. Varsho perhaps. That ain't much value to work with.

Hoffman would for sure.

[Terminator]

A whole lot of spiking the football over here because of 3 bad weeks in April!

These are the same people who thought the Orioles were the 1927 Yankees for the foreseeable future! 

Just saying!

[glory]

30 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

How many organizations are in a more bleak situation than us? 

Not only with the payroll and lack of real prospects, but we don't have a ton of assets on the Major League roster with a lot of value especially considering the contracts they have.

We have a couple of relievers with value, if Bo hits reasonably well in the next few months he might have value, Gausman and maybe Bassitt. If Max can show us anything in the next couple of months, that could get us a piece. Varsho perhaps. That ain't much value to work with.

Trade deadline: Bo, Bassitt, Green, Scherzer (if healthy)

Should be shopped but won't be due to wanting to contend in 2026: Varsho, Gausman, Hoffman, Garcia

Intriguing trade option if performance continues: Springer (salary will likely have to be eaten though).

Unmovable due to contract: Vlad, Berrios, Gimenez, Santander, Kirk

I don't think anyone above is getting a difference making return back except maybe Hoffman/Garcia given how valuable relievers are at the deadline. It's going to be a long road to get impact young talent back onto this team. 

[Laika]

Good time to remind people that 29 teams fail to win the World Series every year so if you an eternal pessimist and the baseball team you post about mostly sucks, that doesn't necessarily make you special or smart.

Similarly, if someone was optimistic about a team or player and they turned out to be wrong, they aren't necessarily dumb they may just live life without choosing to be a dipshit all the time.

[Terminator]

42 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Lol. I remember arguing with people on the old board about how much I thought Travis Snider sucked. There was a lot of delusion around him. He had a half decent season for Pittsburgh or something but just watching him at the plate I could tell he wasn't ever going to be special. The ability to run into a fastball from time to time doesn't make one special.

Wow why would anyone ever doubt your scouting abilities which amount to nothing more than "I could tell" lmao

[Masterbather]

54 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Wow why would anyone ever doubt your scouting abilities which amount to nothing more than "I could tell" lmao

Nailed it though didn't I?

I argued that Thames would be the better player, granted I didn't win that one by a lot but I did win it lol

[jaysblue]

I was staying at the Sheraton Hotel in Boston at the end of August in 2009 to watch the Jays take on the Red Sox for my 21st birthday. After the Friday night game, was at the hotel bar and saw Travis Snider walk into the hotel with two hot blondes and went right to the elevators. That's a winner right there! I'm sure none of us ever managed to do that haha. 

 

[BTS]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Good time to remind people that 29 teams fail to win the World Series every year so if you an eternal pessimist and the baseball team you post about mostly sucks, that doesn't necessarily make you special or smart.

Similarly, if someone was optimistic about a team or player and they turned out to be wrong, they aren't necessarily dumb they may just live life without choosing to be a dipshit all the time.

The most annoying posters on this forum, by far, are the 2-3 dipshits who make fun of people for being optimistic about their favourite baseball team and tag them into threads after losses.

[Masterbather]

12 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

I was staying at the Sheraton Hotel in Boston at the end of August in 2009 to watch the Jays take on the Red Sox for my 21st birthday. After the Friday night game, was at the hotel bar and saw Travis Snider walk into the hotel with two hot blondes and went right to the elevators. That's a winner right there! I'm sure none of us ever managed to do that haha. 

 

Then they drugged him, stole his s*** and Left him naked and penniless. Young "Lunchbox" learned a valuable lesson that day.

[Jonn]

4 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Back in early April, there were some posters so excited having a core of Kirk, Gimenez and Varsho to build around lol. 

Gimenez with his Defense and Base Running alone make his contract actually manageable. But he shouldn't be hitting higher than 8th in any Lineup. I don't think he's this bad with the bat. But he certainly not a good offensive player. 

[max silver]

7 hours ago, Terminator said:

A whole lot of spiking the football over here because of 3 bad weeks in April!

These are the same people who thought the Orioles were the 1927 Yankees for the foreseeable future! 

Just saying!

It's not even 3 bad weeks, it's like a bad 9-10 days as the team had a very solid record before the recent slide. 

[G-Snarls]

The Orioles have a lot to be upset about right now but losing out on Hoffman after trying to cheap out on him should be towards the top of the list. 

[Spanky99]

On 4/30/2025 at 6:35 AM, jaysblue said:

Braves were supposed to be in shambles according to one prominent poster on this board 🤣

Due to injuries and suspension, why can't you get that through your tiny little brain? 

Next you're going to tell us you saw the Braves pulling off a .700+ win percentage with the likes of Verdugo, White, Allen, Baldwin and BP starts would turn out like that right? 🦤🙄

[max silver]

14 hours ago, jaysblue said:

The issue is the Jays have gone into this season relying on a bunch of Buffalo guys who so far have looked all like duds. Not one of Wagner, Roden, or Barger have been positive contributors offensively. Ideally would have been better having them start the season in Buffalo and calling them up if an injury occurred. 

As well, they are already pretty much a glove-first majority lineup with Gimenez, Kirk, Clement and Varsho. 

Also, doesn't help that your main bats aren't hitting for power like Vladdy, Santander and Bo. 

As for pitching, the rotation is a bunch of 3/4 starters, unless guys like Gausman and Berrios return to their 2023 form. I was tarred and feathered early this month for saying that, but that's the reality. 

Bullpen wise, Hoffman has been fantastic and Yimi has been rock solid. Even guys like Brandon Little and Nick Sandlin (before his injury) have been reliable. 

That's a bit of alternative history. You were tarred and feathered for suggesting that the rotation performance had been anything other than fantastic for the first few weeks of the season/turns through the rotation.

[Spanky99]

12 hours ago, BTS said:

The most annoying posters on this forum, by far, are the 2-3 dipshits who make fun of people for being optimistic about their favourite baseball team and tag them into threads after losses.

Amen.

[BB17]

Nice to win last night but all these same questions about the bleak short term/long term remain. The back end of the bullpen is very good so if the offence can turn it around they might win 85 games but the rotation now is starting to look super shaky. We saw the last 2 weeks if a SP has an off night basically this team has no chance. 

Kirk finally had a good game so maybe he can get going a bit. People are saying his contract sucks but he's not getting paid much and the defense is still very strong so even if he hits at an average level he's no where close to a problem.

They desperately need some talent on the position player side though. Its sad a guy like Barger who is a platoon guy has the highest upside on the team among guys 25 and under.

[BatFlip]

17 hours ago, BTS said:

The most annoying posters on this forum, by far, are the 2-3 dipshits who make fun of people for being optimistic about their favourite baseball team and tag them into threads after losses.

Amen brother.  I have sympathy for their significant others and friends (if they have any).  

 

 

[John_Havok]

19 hours ago, jaysblue said:

I was staying at the Sheraton Hotel in Boston at the end of August in 2009 to watch the Jays take on the Red Sox for my 21st birthday. After the Friday night game, was at the hotel bar and saw Travis Snider walk into the hotel with two hot blondes and went right to the elevators. That's a winner right there! I'm sure none of us ever managed to do that haha. 

 

Well, not in Boston....

[Spanky99]

Was watching the Guardians game and across the ticker came up Bo Bichette is going to play for Brazil in the WBC next season.

 

[mphenhef]

Just now, Spanky99 said:

Was watching the Guardians game and across the ticker came up Bo Bichette is going to play for Brazil in the WBC next season.

 

Dante Jr is playing as well so I guess him and Bo are on good terms despite the controversy between Sr and Jr

[John_Havok]

Setback for Swanson in rehab. He's flying to meet with Jays medical staff. Was supposed to pitch for Dunedin but had some soreness in his forearm when playing catch 

[Terminator]

Easton Lucas had another good start in AAA today. Maybe he was tipping his pitches or something.

When/if Lauer blows up he might be next up. Jake Bloss probably isn't far behind.

[max silver]

22 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Easton Lucas had another good start in AAA today. Maybe he was tipping his pitches or something.

When/if Lauer blows up he might be next up. Jake Bloss probably isn't far behind.

Yeah it appears as though Bloss has largely righted the ship after the horrendous start to the season. I can only assume the club will wait for him to have more than 2 effective starts before calling him up but the Alek Manoah situation from a few seasons ago shows it's possible to see Bloss in a big league game before that happens.

[Spanky99]

5 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Setback for Swanson in rehab. He's flying to meet with Jays medical staff. Was supposed to pitch for Dunedin but had some soreness in his forearm when playing catch 

Saw today there's no structural damage after his MRI, and he can resume his playing catch ramp up.