Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 Blue Jays trade former All-Star Espinal to Reds https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2873744 The Cincinnati Reds acquired former All-Star infielder Santiago Espinal from the Toronto Blue Jays in exchange for right-handed pitching prospect Chris McElvain, the teams announced Wednesday.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted March 20, 2024 Author Posted March 20, 2024 Move that had to be made after picking up IKF and making room for Clement. Is the prospect worth anything?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 To the Reds is surprising Noelvi suspended, Arroyo to miss 2024, McLain injury
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Move that had to be made after picking up IKF and making room for Clement. Is the prospect worth anything? https://www.fangraphs.com/players/christopher-mcelvain/sa3020806/stats?position=P
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 BA scouting report... School: Vanderbilt Committed/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 21.8 BA Grade: 35/High Scouting Grades: Fastball: 50 | Curveball: - | Slider: 45 | Changeup: 45 | Cutter: 50 | Control: 50 McElvain committed to Vanderbilt before he threw a pitch in high school and in 2022 he stepped into the Friday night starter role for the team after pitching out of the bullpen in 2020 and 2021. In his first stint as a full-time starter with Vandy, McElvain posted a 4.27 ERA over 86.1 innings with 100 strikeouts (26.8 K%) and 44 walks (11.8 BB%). A 6-foot, 205-pound righthander, McElvain is a strike thrower with average stuff across the board, headlined by a fastball that sits around 92 mph and gets up to 95 with good carry and the induced vertical break numbers to back it up. McElvain throws a slider in the low 80s and has also added an upper-80s cutter this spring, with a fringe-average changeup in the mid 80s as well. Analytically-inclined teams will like the characteristics of McElvain’s fastball and a strong track record of control dating back to his high school days—though his walk rates are a bit higher than his reputation as a control artist—while more traditional scouting teams could be more skeptical about the impact of his stuff and his overall upside potential.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 41. Chris McElvain, SP Drafted: 8th Round, 2022 from Vanderbilt (CIN) Age 22.3 Height 6′ 0″ Weight 205 Bat /Thr R/R FV 35+ Tool Grades (Present/Future) Fastball Slider Changeup Command Sits/Tops 40/45 55/60 30/50 30/45 89-93 / 95 McElvain spent his first couple of years at Vanderbilt in the bullpen, then moved to the rotation in his draft year. He has a plus two-plane breaking ball and his fastball plays up due to its riding life, but it isn’t hard enough to miss bats within the zone, so McElvain needs to live above the zone to avoid getting hurt. For this reason, he was walk-prone in 2022, but his command actually isn’t bad — it’s just what he has to do to get by. Because he’s so new to a rotation, he may just be scratching the surface in some pitchability areas (that’s where the changeup projection is derived from here), but Vanderbilt isn’t a school that tends to leave developmental meat on the bone, and it’s rare for pitchers moving from the ‘pen to the rotation to add velocity, something McElvain will ideally do. The Reds didn’t send him to an affiliate after the draft, so he’s poised to be rested for the start of 2023, important context to keep in mind if he’s throwing harder at the onset of camp. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/cincinnati-reds-top-46-prospects-2023/
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 This might be the first Atkins trade that no one bitches about
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Yeah this is all around good news
deanmike Verified Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Good riddance, Shittiago Espitrash
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Yes! Said like Frank the Tank
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Author Posted March 21, 2024 (edited) This might be the first Atkins trade that no one bitches about Wait wait.. let me give it a shot lol. Omg, I can't believe we traded the World Series MVP in Steve Pearce to the Red Sox for this scrub. What a disaster move to help a rival that was. Edited March 21, 2024 by Jays24
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 To the Reds is surprising I wonder if the injury to McClain is worse than letting on…
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 This might be the first Atkins trade that no one bitches about He'll be the Reds all star rep this season
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 BA scouting report... School: Vanderbilt Committed/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 21.8 BA Grade: 35/High Scouting Grades: Fastball: 50 | Curveball: - | Slider: 45 | Changeup: 45 | Cutter: 50 | Control: 50 McElvain committed to Vanderbilt before he threw a pitch in high school and in 2022 he stepped into the Friday night starter role for the team after pitching out of the bullpen in 2020 and 2021. In his first stint as a full-time starter with Vandy, McElvain posted a 4.27 ERA over 86.1 innings with 100 strikeouts (26.8 K%) and 44 walks (11.8 BB%). A 6-foot, 205-pound righthander, McElvain is a strike thrower with average stuff across the board, headlined by a fastball that sits around 92 mph and gets up to 95 with good carry and the induced vertical break numbers to back it up. McElvain throws a slider in the low 80s and has also added an upper-80s cutter this spring, with a fringe-average changeup in the mid 80s as well. Analytically-inclined teams will like the characteristics of McElvain’s fastball and a strong track record of control dating back to his high school days—though his walk rates are a bit higher than his reputation as a control artist—while more traditional scouting teams could be more skeptical about the impact of his stuff and his overall upside potential. I would have been happy with a bag of balls or not cared if he was DFAd. However, getting a pitcher with great control is a good deal. All the other stuff can be worked on, but control is the most elusive.
Laika Community Moderator Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 I wonder if the injury to McClain is worse than letting on… Sounds like it.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Well that's a handy trade.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Wait wait.. let me give it a shot lol. Omg, I can't believe we traded the World Series MVP to the Red Sox for this scrub. What a disaster move to help a rival that was. Red Sox?
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 This is great news. A trade where no one will care if the guy we got is a nothingburger.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 I would have been happy with a bag of balls or not cared if he was DFAd. However, getting a pitcher with great control is a good deal. All the other stuff can be worked on, but control is the most elusive. Yeah, back of rotation upside for Espy is very good at this stage in the game, very nice deal by Ross.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 It was on March 20th, 2024, that the Espinal trade finally brought unity to BJMB, not seen since September 12th, 2001.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Nice move. Espinal needed to be traded so thankfully they found a taker. If the Reds took his whole salary then even better.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Noelvi suspended, Arroyo to miss 2024, McLain injury Arroyo is missing 2024?? f***
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 To the Reds is surprising Yeah. The Reds seemed to have a surplus of infielders until all of a sudden they didn't.
bones10 Old-Timey Member Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Good trade, freed up some roster spot and got a spec for it
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