Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)

[Captain_Obvious]

Its 1 season worth of games for a catcher. Maybe 130ish games is more fair.

 

Injury concerns, yes. But if he remains healthy he’s roughly a 4 WAR player

 

He sucked in April 2021. Updated glasses in May. Became a monster since June 2021.

 

The injuries are unfortunate, but I do not think they recurring. Just random ones which gives me hope going forward. The Blue Jays playing him part time when healthy did not help either.

[Spanky99]

Hell yeah. Dude has a lower ERA the past two years than Edwin Diaz.

 

Man, I think Diaz should be a top target, and likely is. Romano and Diaz to finish a game is damn sexy.

[Omar]

Man, I think Diaz should be a top target, and likely is. Romano and Diaz to finish a game is damn sexy.

 

why not Bedar over Diaz?

[Eat My Shatkins]

why not Bedar over Diaz?

 

Diaz is a free agent, Bednar you'd have to trade for.

[Omar]

Diaz is a free agent, Bednar you'd have to trade for.

 

Bednar can be gotten with assets. Diaz will cost a bundle.

[Brownie19]

Rogers would be a perfect fit IMO. Has closing experience and can be used as a bridge to Romano. Last two seasons he posted a 13.17 and 11.75 K/9. I actually like him better than Matt Moore given his lower BB/9 and experience.

 

Matt Moore and Taylor Rogers aren't in the same area code. You can probably get Moore for 1/5th the cost of Rogers.

[Brownie19]

why not Bedar over Diaz?

 

Timmy Trumpet at the dome would be electric. That's the best reason I can come up with.

[Spanky99]

None of the Astros pen is homegrown, apart from one or two of the starters that have moved to the pen.

 

Our pen in the 90’s was a large part homegrown and had depth! We had Henke, Ward and Wells at one point just to name three. All capable of closing. Then in 93, Wardo and Wells.

 

Regardless how you do it, when you are close, like we are, with a limited window, and following the Pat Gillick rule, you need to make those moves to put you over the top. We can’t just leave the pen until last anymore and figure we will find soley serviceable guys to get us by

 

You said it perfect! Same applies to the bench!

 

Should be fun watching how the FO shore up these parts of the roster.

[Omar]

Timmy Trumpet at the dome would be electric. That's the best reason I can come up with.

 

Only if Shapiro spends the dough for a live player. Yes that would be awesome.

[Spanky99]

why not Bedar over Diaz?

 

Bedar cost assets, a lot too, plus I don't think the Bucs trade him. Diaz is cash. I take the latter.

[Carlos Danger]

Arizona has OF, RPs and pitchers I would be very interested in. I am not talking about big names like Gallen, Varsho or Thomas either. Fertile trading grounds IMO.

[Terminator]

Not sure what Astros needs are, but you may get the biggest return for Biggio from them, if not for his upside but PR would be nice as well. Now, you increase your return value for Jansen by adding Biggio..

 

Yeah maybe in my Jansen-Urquidy trade scenario a guy like Biggio could be included to make it work.

[jaysblue]

Yeah maybe in my Jansen-Urquidy trade scenario a guy like Biggio could be included to make it work.

 

Jansen + Biggio for Urquidy + Abreu

 

Not sure they would accept that though.

[jaysblue]

Arizona has OF, RPs and pitchers I would be very interested in. I am not talking about big names like Gallen, Varsho or Thomas either. Fertile trading grounds IMO.

 

Joe Mantiply is interesting as a lefty reliever.

 

Which SPs did you have in mind? I don't think they trade Kelly and if they did, likely would ask a lot because of his team friendly contract.

 

I like Stone Garrett.

[jaysblue]

Matt Moore and Taylor Rogers aren't in the same area code. You can probably get Moore for 1/5th the cost of Rogers.

 

Yeah of course. Moore isn't a bad Plan B if the Jays can't sign Rogers and wouldn't be as expensive which is a plus.

[jaysblue]

Bedar cost assets, a lot too, plus I don't think the Bucs trade him. Diaz is cash. I take the latter.

 

Diaz would cost a ton and I'm not sure the Jays will blow their entire load on him this offseason. How much do you think he gets? I'm all for it and would rather spend money on an elite reliever than trade assets for Bednar, though I think signing Rogers is more realistic for the Blue Jays in terms of team needs and cost. Romano hasn't done anything to lose the closers role IMO.

[Spanky99]

f*** helping the Stros, re-sign Stripling(qualify him), sign Diaz and Conforto. Trade Moreno and Olivares for Carroll and Jameson.

 

Move the other interchangeables to shore up the bench and bottom of the pen, easy peasy profit.

[Spanky99]

Diaz would cost a ton and I'm not sure the Jays will blow their entire load on him this offseason. How much do you think he gets? I'm all for it and would rather spend money on an elite reliever than trade assets for Bednar, though I think signing Rogers is more realistic for the Blue Jays in terms of team needs and cost. Romano hasn't done anything to lose the closers role IMO.

 

You bounce to Rogers if his ask is too large. You just suggested the same above, lol.

[Carlos Danger]

Joe Mantiply is interesting as a lefty reliever.

 

Which SPs did you have in mind? I don't think they trade Kelly and if they did, likely would ask a lot because of his team friendly contract.

 

I like Stone Garrett.

 

Drey Jameson, Stone Garret and Mantiply would give me a chubby. There are others as well. They are deep for the future.

[Captain_Obvious]

f*** helping the Stros, re-sign Stripling(qualify him), sign Diaz and Conforto. Trade Moreno and Olivares for Carroll and Jameson.

 

Move the other interchangeables to shore up the bench and bottom of the pen, easy peasy profit.

 

No way Stripling gets 20M. You can add 5M or 6M and get Rondon.

 

I will build a statue for Atkins if he gets Carroll.

[jaysblue]

f*** helping the Stros, re-sign Stripling(qualify him), sign Diaz and Conforto. Trade Moreno and Olivares for Carroll and Jameson.

 

Move the other interchangeables to shore up the bench and bottom of the pen, easy peasy profit.

 

Don't qualify Stripling. If he accepts, he gets $18-19M which is a bit excessive for a starting pitcher who only lasts 5 innings and can pitch only twice through a lineup. So many other quality starters available during free agency. I'm sure the Jays can nab one or two at a decent price.

 

A lot of other LHB's available who can DH and play an outfield spot as well like Michael Brantley, Andrew Benintendi, Joc Pederson, Brandon Nimmo, Joey Gallo. Conforto can be an option for sure, depending on the price, though a lot of options available. Jays should at least sign one of those guys above.

 

Would love to see Carroll and Jameson.

[jaysblue]

No way Stripling gets 20M. You can add 5M or 6M and get Rondon.

 

I will build a statue for Atkins if he gets Carroll.

 

Yeah would rather pay Carlos Rodon $25M-30M over Stripling at $18-19M. Jays would be foolish to qualify Chicken Strip.

[Jimcanuck]

Yeah would rather pay Carlos Rodon $25M-30M over Stripling at $18-19M. Jays would be foolish to qualify Chicken Strip.

 

Big difference between a 1 year and a multi year. Jays should qualify Stripling.

[Captain_Obvious]

Big difference between a 1 year and a multi year. Jays should qualify Stripling.

 

Qualifying offer is 20M. Allocating 20M to Stripling is not the best use of budget resources.

[Terminator]

Matt Moore stinks. If I was 30 years younger I could get some base hits off of him easy.

[Spanky99]

No way Stripling gets 20M. You can add 5M or 6M and get Rondon.

 

I will build a statue for Atkins if he gets Carroll.

 

Rodon's an injury risk and will be looking for multiple years, a QO for 1 year is fine at that price. If he wants a multi year deal he'll either sign here or walk, we get a comp pick and shop elsewhere.

[Spanky99]

Don't qualify Stripling. If he accepts, he gets $18-19M which is a bit excessive for a starting pitcher who only lasts 5 innings and can pitch only twice through a lineup. So many other quality starters available during free agency. I'm sure the Jays can nab one or two at a decent price.

 

Disagree. They can shop for whatever they want if he doesn't sign, who cares. I posted my thoughts on him above.

 

A lot of other LHB's available who can DH and play an outfield spot as well like Michael Brantley, Andrew Benintendi, Joc Pederson, Brandon Nimmo, Joey Gallo. Conforto can be an option for sure, depending on the price, though a lot of options available. Jays should at least sign one of those guys above.

 

Thanks tips, I'd rather Conforto who can play CF as well in a pinch, than move on if that were to fall through.

 

 

Would love to see Carroll and Jameson.

 

Same, it's why I suggested all of this...

[Spanky99]

Yeah would rather pay Carlos Rodon $25M-30M over Stripling at $18-19M. Jays would be foolish to qualify Chicken Strip.

 

Pfffttt...

 

Big difference between a 1 year and a multi year. Jays should qualify Stripling.

 

Jim gets it.

[Spanky99]

Matt Moore stinks. If I was 30 years younger I could get some base hits off of him easy.

 

A lot of these suggestions derive from some of these guys rosters in Fantasy Sports, as per usual. Just ignore it, lol.

[Spanky99]

Drey Jameson, Stone Garret and Mantiply would give me a chubby. There are others as well. They are deep for the future.

 

So what's the trade for those 3?