Jays 2021/22 General Off-Season Discussion

[wamco]

Why the f*** would we do that trade?

 

Omg

 

I mean baseball trade values puts it as 23.5 for 24.1 so where’s your beef?

 

I thought we wanted Chapman/Ramirez

[Laika]

Omfg Matt Chapman

 

I thought you were referring to that other Chapman

[Deadpool]

I do not want Villar but he projects to be useful in some role and was okay last year.

 

If Toronto signs him I'll applaud Ross for not letting bias get in the way. It really should be completely irrelevant that he was bad here for 22 games in 2020...

 

I'm not even basing my opinion of a Villar signing on his time here... I just don't think he has a skill set that we need, Espinal is just as good, younger, and cheaper than Villar for that role, and we have a couple of guys (Smith in particular) knocking at the door for infield utility.

 

I'm not adding a 2 WAR guy to our infield if I'm the Jays FO. I'm either getting a significant upgrade at 3B, or I'm focusing elsewhere.

[Grant77]

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Admin and I had plans for a big celebration for the 1 million post and forgot. I even had a Blue Jays celebrity who had agreed to read a message (probably best that it didn't happen cause it would have surely had a f*** Weams part). Maybe I'll get something done for the 10 year anniversary next May.

 

Who should we try to find and bring back?

 

Winiwalt and Mac33 were around for a long time.

[Jimcanuck]

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Admin and I had plans for a big celebration for the 1 million post and forgot. I even had a Blue Jays celebrity who had agreed to read a message (probably best that it didn't happen cause it would have surely had a f*** Weams part). Maybe I'll get something done for the 10 year anniversary next May.

 

Who should we try to find and bring back?

 

No reunion is complete without tercet

[The_DH]

When did the coaching staff change?

[The_DH]

When did the coaching staff change?

 

Hudgens out,

Schneider now bench coach (which he seemed to be last year anyway),

Adam Yudelman, major league coach

David Howell, pitching strategist and Hunter Mense as assistant hitting coach

[Spanky99]

When did the coaching staff change?

 

End of the season.

[Stangstag]

Tough to unsee though. In other words; some cocks can’t be unsucked

 

Would you do Groshans and Pearson for Chapman ?

 

I wouldn’t. For Ramirez sure, but there’s a good chance Chapman can’t hit anymore.

[Spanky99]

I wouldn’t. For Ramirez sure, but there’s a good chance Chapman can’t hit anymore.

 

Ramirez starts with Moreno, Kirk +...

[Ehjays]

I do not want Villar but he projects to be useful in some role and was okay last year.

 

If Toronto signs him I'll applaud Ross for not letting bias get in the way. It really should be completely irrelevant that he was bad here for 22 games in 2020...

 

Seems to be some love for Jonathon f***in Villar.

 

I just think he is a very bad example to have on a young team. Let me refresh the type of player you want to resign.

 

When we were in the playoffs, and he got pinch hit for, He grabbed his bats and left the bench. He is a cancer.

 

 

Disagree with your manager, thats the competitive nature of professional athletes. But to grab your s*** and leave your team, that should not be brought back.

[jerb]

[The_DH]

End of the season.

 

It actually just got announced at 3:53, half hour after I first posted. But they updated the roster beforehand.

[Stangstag]

Ramirez starts with Moreno, Kirk +...

 

Right, im just saying I wouldn’t move Groshans and Pearson for Chapman.

 

I WOULD move Groshans, Pearson + for Ramirez

[connorp]

Seems to be some love for Jonathon f***in Villar.

 

I just think he is a very bad example to have on a young team. Let me refresh the type of player you want to resign.

 

When we were in the playoffs, and he got pinch hit for, He grabbed his bats and left the bench. He is a cancer.

 

 

Disagree with your manager, thats the competitive nature of professional athletes. But to grab your s*** and leave your team, that should not be brought back.

 

Maybe if you’re actually good it could be forgiven lol

[max silver]

Right, im just saying I wouldn’t move Groshans and Pearson for Chapman.

 

I WOULD move Groshans, Pearson + for Ramirez

 

I'd be very hesitant to move any of the Jays top prospects for Chapman. There is no guarantee whatsoever that Chapman bounces back with the bat as his WRC+ has been declining for the last 3 seasons. I wouldn't move Pearson as he's likely at his lowest possible value at the moment due to all the time lost due to injury. I think he's going to have a very good 2022 season. I have the same feeling about Groshans as well, I think he's going to really explode in 2022. Moreno and Martinez are each potential future cornerstone players, I don't think Chapman is good enough to move this quality of player.

 

Ramirez certainly changes the calculus of the discussion. The only guy I would make off limits to Cleveland would be Moreno. Everybody else would be imminently available including Pearson, Martinez, Groshans, Kirk, etc.

[connorp]

I hope Pearson is just an RP so there’s at least a 30% he’s useful this season

[jerb]

[connorp]

Let’s see the wife from the front

[Laika]

I think I see Borucki there

[HERPDERP]

Hey guys long time no see!

 

Checks last time I posted

 

2018! Geez

[Grant77]

Where are your socks, Rowdy?

[Stangstag]

Donaldson to the Yankees….

 

Sheeeiiit

[Stangstag]

[Dick_Pole]

 

I wish Vegas was as biased against the Jays as these dumbass rankings are. Right now they are only +180 to win the division and third lowest odds to win the World Series at +850. Bet365 has a special to boost their payout to +1100 so I took it. Not even going to bother with those division odds though. On what planet are the White Sox the second best team?

[Dick_Pole]

I'm not even basing my opinion of a Villar signing on his time here... I just don't think he has a skill set that we need, Espinal is just as good, younger, and cheaper than Villar for that role, and we have a couple of guys (Smith in particular) knocking at the door for infield utility.

 

I'm not adding a 2 WAR guy to our infield if I'm the Jays FO. I'm either getting a significant upgrade at 3B, or I'm focusing elsewhere.

 

I completely echo this sentiment. I don't find him to be an upgrade anywhere. I don't care about his attitude problem, but it doesn't make his case either.

[L54]

Looks like Rowdy’s brother was in the wedding party at the end

[saskjayfan]

I feel like we should just go sign Schwarber and call it a day. Move Moreno to 3rd when he comes up May 1 and look to the trade deadline to shake things up if we have to.

[Deadpool]

 

Notably missing Moreno...

 

Edit: My bad, he's on the 40 man...

[Krylian]

Maybe if you’re actually good it could be forgiven lol

 

Even then...dudes a sour puss and a quitter