Does the StroShow blow?

[Krylian]

Stroman to the pen?

[burlingtonbandit]

lol Stroman is still the 3rd best starter on the team. 3.76 FIP

[204Jays]

What's the prediction for tomorrow?

 

If he continues the same approach, then..

 

5.2 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 2 K, 2 BB

 

Buy a lottery ticket tonight!

[Nafro]

Maybe..

[Stangstag]

I think its just Boston and their babip voodoo

[Grant77]

I wouldn't mind a Hutch cameo during this upcoming stretch of games without an off day. It would give the guys an extra day and add an extra bit of competition.

[Jonn]

I would not be shocked if they optioned him to the minors. Hes been very bad.

[Jayday]

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Ricky Romero 2.0

 

Yup, he's emotional , not quite like romero but he needs to keep his composure .

Young dumb and full of cum .

[Spanky99]

I wouldn't mind a Hutch cameo during this upcoming stretch of games without an off day. It would give the guys an extra day and add an extra bit of competition.

 

Atkins already mentioned this the other day. So very likely.

[Krylian]

lol Stroman is still the 3rd best starter on the team. 3.76 FIP

 

And with each and every start I'm guessing he's slipping a little further and futher back.

[Krylian]

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Yup, he's emotional , not quite like romero but he needs to keep his composure .

Young dumb and full of cum .

 

So rub one out before taking the mound?

[Jayday]

So rub one out before taking the mound?

 

Yeah, it could help, after all, unlike Romero, he doesn't have miss america for a girlfriend.

[Cyborg]

Anyone want to explain why Gibby didnt walk Ortiz there?

 

Because that would be dumb.

[Stangstag]

Because that would be dumb.

 

No... Guys on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs, Ortiz is a LHH, next batter is a RHH...

 

It made a lot of sense to walk Ortiz in that situation.

[Terminator]

Stroman has a 3.73 FIP and a 3.87 xFIP. He's not pitching THAT bad and any talk of demoting him to the minors is stupid.

[intentional wok]

No... Guys on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs, Ortiz is a LHH, next batter is a RHH...

 

It made a lot of sense to walk Ortiz in that situation.

 

Dunno. If Stroman can't get Ortiz then he has serious problems. Which is not to take away from Ortiz, but more that a major league starter should be able to make a single out when necessary. Hanley could have shot one over the monster for four runs vs. what Ortiz did. I mean, that's not what happened, but that's hindsight.

[GD]

holy f*** this board

[Stangstag]

Dunno. If Stroman can't get Ortiz then he has serious problems. Which is not to take away from Ortiz, but more that a major league starter should be able to make a single out when necessary. Hanley could have shot one over the monster for four runs vs. what Ortiz did. I mean, that's not what happened, but that's hindsight.

 

It has to do with the better matchup against Hanley and the fact that there is a base open at 1st... No hindsight involved. Even Pat and Buck were calling for Stroman to walk Ortiz.

 

Baseball is a game of matchups. It was dumb to pitch to Ortiz in that situation. Likely Stroman's ego that kept him from walking Ortiz.

[intentional wok]

I know it's the better matchup but picking the matchup you like isn't cost-free. It involves putting another chip on the pile with 2 outs. I don't think that's worth it. So many more ways a run can score with the bases juiced, too. BBs, HBPs, and the like. It's a distinctly worse scenario.

[Stangstag]

I know it's the better matchup but picking the matchup you like isn't cost-free. It involves putting another chip on the pile with 2 outs. I don't think that's worth it.

 

You're neglecting to mention the fact that Ortiz is probably the best hitter on the team and a LHH, while Hanley is a righty.

[intentional wok]

You're neglecting to mention the fact that Ortiz is probably the best hitter on the team and a LHH, while Hanley is a righty.

 

I'm not neglecting anything. I agreed it's the better matchup. I'm saying that I don't think the better matchup is worth tightening the vice like that. I might agree with you if Ryan Hanigan was after Ortiz, but Hanley is not a slouch either.

[Stangstag]

I'm not neglecting anything. I agreed it's the better matchup. I'm saying that I don't think the better matchup is worth tightening the vice like that.

 

How is it "tightening the vice"? 1st base was open anyways, and Ortiz won't score on a double. The only way it would be worse is if Hanley hit a homer, which he hasn't hit many of this season.

[43211234]

Time to DFA?

[intentional wok]

How is it "tightening the vice"? 1st base was open anyways, and Ortiz won't score on a double. The only way it would be worse is if Hanley hit a homer, which he hasn't hit many of this season.

 

There's no such thing as "open". Putting a guy on because a base is "open" just means putting a potential run there. It also means Stroman doesn't have the leeway of a BB. The more guys that are on, the more damage that can be done, including the more ways.

 

And yeah, maybe Ortiz doesn't score on a double. But that just means you're back at 2nd/3rd with 2 outs, but now down by two more runs.

 

You can't just say Ramirez is the better matchup (which I agree it is) without acknowledging how much more trouble you need to put yourself in to get to him.

[BlueJays]

Can he go back to Duke?

[Stangstag]

There's no such thing as "open". Putting a guy on because a base is "open" just means putting a potential run there. It also means Stroman doesn't have the leeway of a BB. The more guys that are on, the more damage that can be done, including the more ways.

 

And yeah, maybe Ortiz doesn't score on a double. But that just means you're back at 2nd/3rd with 2 outs, but now down by two more runs.

 

You can't just say Ramirez is the better matchup (which I agree it is) without acknowledging how much more trouble you need to put yourself in to get to him.

 

Putting Ortiz on 1st also gives you the force out at any base.

[intentional wok]

Putting Ortiz on 1st also gives you the force out at any base.

 

Force scenarios work both ways. A walk or HBP become an instant run. Ortiz also runs like a turtle, and Hanley isn't much better. It's not like you have to worry about catching Kiermeier. You shouldn't need a force play to make an out on either of those guys. If you can't throw out Ortiz or Hanley at first then there's an extremely good chance that Betts, Pedroia, or Bogaerts are already safe at the next base. Maybe Ortiz takes too long to get to second on a groundball, but now you're planning for a really specific scenario that you can't really control.

[TheGrandslamMan]

Oh my god. Are you guys for real? Stroman getting sent down??? Stromans a perfectly valuable starter in the 3/4 role. Is he the ace that Rogers hyped him to be? No... But he's a useful young arm that should be able to give us competitive innings. The kids still learning for crying out loud.

 

If we really want to put our faith in a lights out starter then Aaron Sanchez is our man.. Way more natural talent than the Stroshow... Dickey/Happ provide the 2/3 spot and Stroshow/Estrada fill out the back of the rotation.

[Stoneyen]

There's no such thing as "open". Putting a guy on because a base is "open" just means putting a potential run there. It also means Stroman doesn't have the leeway of a BB. The more guys that are on, the more damage that can be done, including the more ways.

 

And yeah, maybe Ortiz doesn't score on a double. But that just means you're back at 2nd/3rd with 2 outs, but now down by two more runs.

 

You can't just say Ramirez is the better matchup (which I agree it is) without acknowledging how much more trouble you need to put yourself in to get to him.

It is better to put on a runner when first base is "open" in that it doesn't advance the lead runner, but in this case it also creates a situation where a walk to the following batter would advance the lead runner (and bring in a run). Considering the matchups its probably pretty close either way.

[Slot Machine]

Personally I'd be walking the guy with a 203 wrc+ in that situation.