Sanchez Projection March 2016

[Sammy225]

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[Governator]

What sanchez needs is time to develop and the desire to do so. Some friendly competition would benefit him greatly too and I think he can get that from Stroman too.

 

He needs a slider in the worst way, his curveball just isn't a pitch you want to throw with the rest of his stuff. But his fastball pitch doesn't have to be a wipeout pitch in order for his arm to be considered big. If they know its coming and they're still drilling it into the ground, it's just as useful of a pitch. I'd rather see him rack up groundball outs over K's because it will allow him to get deeper into games. Again, as long as he can keep his walk rate down, he will settle in fine as a no.2 starter.

 

If he doesn't do that, the decision needs to be made that he will either pitch out of the pen or go down to AAA and work on a secondary pitch as well as his command. But all this bagging on a 22 year old kid is ridiculous.

 

 

FYI - That only works in theory, you'd always want a K over a ground ball for 2 reasons:

 

1) You can't control where a hit ball is going to go

2) That's how opposing teams manufacture runs.

 

It's also why he's not as effective as a reliever as most think because he can't be relied on to come in with a runner on base with less than 2 outs. All too often that runner scores but you'll never see it reflected in his stats. He's good for 1 situation only, a clean inning with 3 righties in a row.

[burlingtonbandit]

I would guess that's because people sit fastball - and only fastball against him right now. My angle is the curve doesn't make the fastball better - which probably explains why he doesn't get as many swing and misses with the fastball as you'd expect. If he could consistently throw a decent slider and/or change on plain with the fastball - I suspect the fastball would miss a lot more bats.

 

There's a very good chance the curveball will never have that effect on his fastball. Can he keep it around as a surprise pitch and to help against lefties? sure, but he should be focusing elsewhere IMO.

 

I know what you are saying, just find it difficult and unreasonable to expect Sanchez to be able to master 2 additional pitches. He has the cutter which I think was developed for the reason you mention. I think the priority should be command and not learning a slider as that is what is going to make him the most effective. Was weird, last year

 

Sanchez actually got more whiffs as a starter compared to a reliever so I think throwing the curveball more will get a few more whiffs just be virtue of the hitter thinking about it.

[Spanky99]

It's kind of nice to have a meddling president that knows what he's doing/saying? It's really refreshing.

[Brownie19]

I know what you are saying, just find it difficult and unreasonable to expect Sanchez to be able to master 2 additional pitches. He has the cutter which I think was developed for the reason you mention. I think the priority should be command and not learning a slider as that is what is going to make him the most effective. Was weird, last year

 

Sanchez actually got more whiffs as a starter compared to a reliever so I think throwing the curveball more will get a few more whiffs just be virtue of the hitter thinking about it.

 

There isn't much difference between a cutter and a slider.......I'm cool with either and he's been working on a change for a long time. If anything - the change grip seems to be something guys can keep tinkering with before something finally clicks.

[Spanky99]

There isn't much difference between a cutter and a slider.......I'm cool with either and he's been working on a change for a long time. If anything - the change grip seems to be something guys can keep tinkering with before something finally clicks.

 

This is true.

[puphood]

He had a AAA catcher and was facing a AAA lineup...

I count 6 of 9 as MLB players with 3 AAA players to start so he wasn't facing just AAA so he ain't facing a AAA line up. He starts this year, thing can change but he looks good.......

[Spanky99]

I count 6 of 9 as MLB players with 3 AAA players to start so he wasn't facing just AAA so he ain't facing a AAA line up. He starts this year, thing can change but he looks good.......

 

Thanks Shatkins, errr Gibby.

[Spanky99]

3 starts left folks.

[Brownie19]

I count 6 of 9 as MLB players with 3 AAA players to start so he wasn't facing just AAA so he ain't facing a AAA line up. He starts this year, thing can change but he looks good.......

 

c'mon man. Houston's starting lineup this year was the worst/weakest one I've seen all spring. If Brad Penny started today - he wouldn't be retired...

[burlingtonbandit]

c'mon man. Houston's starting lineup this year was the worst/weakest one I've seen all spring. If Brad Penny started today - he wouldn't be retired...

 

lol you're right, he'd still be out on the mound trying to get them out as we speak.

 

I had to..

[puphood]

We will have a better idea today how Snanchez stacks up as Floyd starts again and he is really the only other 5th. SP candidate as they paid to much for Happ for him to sit it out, at least at the start of the season......

[Grant77]

We will have a better idea today how Snanchez stacks up as Floyd starts again and he is really the only other 5th. SP candidate as they paid to much for Happ for him to sit it out, at least at the start of the season......

 

Hutchison and Chavez?

[THANOS]

We will have a better idea today how Snanchez stacks up as Floyd starts again and he is really the only other 5th. SP candidate as they paid to much for Happ for him to sit it out, at least at the start of the season......

 

Why would Happ be competing for the 5th spot lol? Did you see him in Pittsburgh? The guy has a decent shot at being our #2/#3 this year.

[Brownie19]

We will have a better idea today how Snanchez stacks up as Floyd starts again and he is really the only other 5th. SP candidate as they paid to much for Happ for him to sit it out, at least at the start of the season......

 

Happ was the 28th most valuable starting pitcher last year...good god.

[puphood]

Hutchison and Chavez?

neither.

[puphood]

Why would Happ be competing for the 5th spot lol? Did you see him in Pittsburgh? The guy has a decent shot at being our #2/#3 this year.

You basing that on fifteen games....please.

[THANOS]

You basing that on fifteen games....please.

 

Even if you look at the entire year as a whole, Happ was 28th best in both leagues as a starter with 3.2 WAR, better than guys like King Felix, Salazar, Zimmerman, and many more.

[Brownie19]

You basing that on fifteen games....please.

 

Says the guy giving a rotation spot to Sanchez based on 15 spring training innings...

[TheHurl]

I count 6 of 9 as MLB players with 3 AAA players to start so he wasn't facing just AAA so he ain't facing a AAA line up. He starts this year, thing can change but he looks good.......

 

You basing that on fifteen games....please.

 

presented without comment

[puphood]

Even if you look at the entire year as a whole, Happ was 28th best in both leagues as a starter with 3.2 WAR, better than guys like King Felix, Salazar, Zimmerman, and many more.

did he repeat that from the previous year....

[puphood]

Says the guy giving a rotation spot to Sanchez based on 15 IKspring training innings...

Don't worry he will be there in the beginning but will go back to his norm #4-5 starter, as I said he was too expensive to sit on the bench as it shows a poor preseason move.....

[puphood]

Says the guy giving a rotation spot to Sanchez based on 15 spring training innings...

First Happ has a spot based on the end of 2015 not 2014 or the beginning of 2015 and he will have a spot however based on cost, Sanchez will be as good or better than Happ this year and if every thing goes well he will be #3-4 and projecting up.........

[G-Snarls]

[Boxcar]

 

That was an exceptionally s***** article. Probably the worst thing John Lott has ever written.

[KingKat]

First off, let me acknowledge that my opinion has no more validity than yours, particularly if you have studied this question, perhaps more carefully than I, and reached your own conclusion.

 

No real need to read beyond that point. Basically his premise is that every starting prospect turned reliever had this unlimited potential that was ruined by yo-yo-ing. There isn't a single word about how little Sanchez has accomplished as a starter in his pro career. It's all just wishful thinking.

[jerb]

It doesn't look like they're considering starting Sanchez in Buffalo.

 

 

 

Brendan Kennedy Verified account

‏@BKennedyStar

 

I was already on #TeamStarter as far as Sanchez is concerned, and @LottOnBaseball offers more compelling evidence.

 

ryan chwedchuk @ryanchwedchuk

 

@BKennedyStar @LottOnBaseball Is there a scenario where he starts in Buffalo? That might be the best option for him so he can develop.

 

John Lott Verified account

‏@LottOnBaseball

 

I asked Pete Walker that question. His reply: “That’s not something that has been seriously discussed."

[glory]

Hutchison: actual MLB success as a SP, no one bats an eye that he's starting in AAA.

 

Sanchez: s*** as a SP for five years, yet some people consider it an insult if he starts in AAA.

 

Craziness. Let both start in AAA and call them up when a need arises. Make that Straily trade already, too.

[BTS]

Good. Sanchez to the pen plz.

[Spanky99]

It doesn't look like they're considering starting Sanchez in Buffalo.

 

 

 

Brendan Kennedy Verified account

‏@BKennedyStar

 

I was already on #TeamStarter as far as Sanchez is concerned, and @LottOnBaseball offers more compelling evidence.

 

ryan chwedchuk @ryanchwedchuk

 

@BKennedyStar @LottOnBaseball Is there a scenario where he starts in Buffalo? That might be the best option for him so he can develop.

 

John Lott Verified account

‏@LottOnBaseball

 

I asked Pete Walker that question. His reply: “That’s not something that has been seriously discussed."

 

Makes for a stronger pen, no complaints here.