JP Arencebia BLOWS UP Zaun and Hayhurst!

[DuckDuckGose]

JUST as they go to JP's audio comments and Dirk is about to do his retort, a co-worker and talks to me for 10 minutes. AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

 

Dirk took the high road, he said maybe they have been talking too much about JPA doesn't agree with the criticisms but, JPA needs to play better to get the critics to stop.

[jays_fever]

This just in : JP's an idiot

[DuckDuckGose]

Do you think that's the right way like a professional should handle criticisms?

 

Not what I would have done as it opens himself up to more criticism but, I don't see anything wrong with what did/said. As others have said it made him look a little silly but that's about it.

[Deadpool]

When did he say that? I've listened to it three times now but JP does mumble so maybe I missed it.

 

5:49 mark "... I know speaking for myself and, and for the team that there's not one person in our clubhouse that has respect for those guys..."

[DuckDuckGose]

I think it's pretty ignorant to call out baseball analysts for analyzing baseball. Who the people in the clubhouse respect (for reasons that have nothing to do with their analyst abilities) is fairly irrelevant.

 

He called out a clown for being a clown and then acted sad that Dirk didn't love him for catching him in AAA. It was a silly thing to do sure but, he didn't say anything off base.

 

It was pretty close to the start of the part where he talked about Zaun/Hayhurst. I'm listening live right now, but I'll listen again and get a time code later if I have time.

 

What I heard is some guys in the clubhouse if he does speak for the team I wont be ok with that. He needed to make sure people knew this was him talking and not the other guys in the room.

[havok24]

Once again this clown gets irritated when other people criticize him. Dude just f***ing try and improve and maybe more people wouldn't exactly dislike you as much as they do now.

[DuckDuckGose]

5:49 mark "... I know speaking for myself and, and for the team that there's not one person in our clubhouse that has respect for those guys..."

 

Ye you're absolutely right and then right afterwards says the "some guys, including myself" line. My apologies. He can't speak for the team that's unacceptable.

[DuckDuckGose]

Analyzing is being a clown? Hayhurst is criticizing JP because he didn't like him cataching him in AA? LOL, yeah his actually horrid performance have nothing to do with it, Facepalm. Them Stramen.

 

You have serious reading comprehension problems.

[Deadpool]

Ye you're absolutely right and then right afterwards says the "some guys, including myself" line. My apologies. He can't speak for the team that's unacceptable.

 

Yep, one of my major issues with the whole thing. He's put everyone in the clubhouse on the spot because of that line. Other than that, I think it's pretty funny that a guy is having a terrible season (and career other than DINGERS!) is being a WATB about being called out on having a terrible season.

 

Edit: Also, no need to apologize, ain't no thang!

[G-Snarls]

Not what I would have done as it opens himself up to more criticism but, I don't see anything wrong with what did/said. As others have said it made him look a little silly but that's about it.

 

It's much worse than that

 

Defend yourself? Sure

 

Talk s*** unnecessarily about two guys criticizing you? Say you represent the team when you probably don't??? That's ********.

[dineke]

All this controversy over an idiot that wouldn't be backup catcher on most teams. What a gongshow.

[DuckDuckGose]

Yep, one of my major issues with the whole thing. He's put everyone in the clubhouse on the spot because of that line. Other than that, I think it's pretty funny that a guy is having a terrible season (and career other than DINGERS!) is being a WATB about being called out on having a terrible season.

 

Edit: Also, no need to apologize, ain't no thang!

 

Ya, it was hilarious. I loved every second of it. I think people are reacting a little harder because he went on the radio, if the quotes were printed in the newspaper I wonder if he would've got the same fallout.

[DuckDuckGose]

It's much worse than that

 

Defend yourself? Sure

 

Talk s*** unnecessarily about two guys criticizing you? Say you represent the team when you probably don't??? That's ********.

 

Personally I feel all MLB ball players should talk s*** about Zaun. He is a moron and I hope they don't respect him. Garfoose does his best to act like a professional analyst, obviously he is prone to the somewhat new to the gig blunders but, I don't think he deserves the same critique. He's always made very level criticisms of JP's game, as he showed again today in his response.

[JaysRap]

I think for JP it stems to both Zaun and Hayhurst being overly Debbie Downers. Keyword being overly.

[Auldphartt]

Say what you want about Cito Gaston but at least he seemed to realize that Jonathan Arencibia is a worthless, steaming, fly-infested pile of s***.

 

Unfortunately, the Jays' brain trust thought maybe sitting in a MLB dugout would teach him something. He should have been sent down all the way to instructional league to learn to grow up.

[Auldphartt]

I think for JP it stems to both Zaun and Hayhurst being overly Debbie Downers. Keyword being overly.

 

Maybe he prefers Pollyanna Wilner over Debbie Downer.

 

Edit: I'm not defending Zaun. He's as big an idiot as JPA. Maybe that's JPA's true calling, to be a media buffoon.

Edited July 4, 2013 by Auldphartt
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[DuckDuckGose]

Say what you want about Cito Gaston but at least he seemed to realize that Jonathan Arencibia is a worthless, steaming, fly-infested pile of s***. .

 

Say what you want about his game, which I'm hoping the above is referring to but, by all accounts he is a good person. He spent the first half of the interview promoting his charity gig and is one of the most active athletes in the community. He truly does seem like a good person who happens to be a terrible ball player.

[wilko]

JPA's and idiot. Zaun and Hayhurst are critical, but JPA's playing like crap. I'd be fine if the Jays got a bag of balls for him.

[John_Havok]

Say what you want about his game, which I'm hoping the above is referring to but, by all accounts he is a good person. He spent the first half of the interview promoting his charity gig and is one of the most active athletes in the community. He truly does seem like a good person who happens to be a terrible ball player.

 

Actually the only thing I take issue with is the fact that he says he's speaking for the entire clubhouse, and the PED thing.... Since Melky is right there on the team....I get where he's coming from, but what he said was not well thought out, nor well argued.

[Dylan]

lol @ jp

[DuckDuckGose]

Actually the only thing I take issue with is the fact that he says he's speaking for the entire clubhouse, and the PED thing.... Since Melky is right there on the team....I get where he's coming from, but what he said was not well thought out, nor well argued.

 

Ya, I don't care about the PED thing but, once I went back and listened to him saying the team thing I felt much worse about it. I think he backed it up a bit right afterwards by saying some guy including himself but, as you said he spoke for the team which is unacceptable. I do think that perhaps the PED comment created controversy with Melky but, at the end of the day he cheated and he tried to cover it up when he got caught, they should respect him less.

[fatcowxlive]

Good. Zaun will say something stupid and get himself fired, Hayhurst will say something clever that he'll get a talking to about, and AA will probably take one of JP's media privileges away

 

Win-Win-Win

[Auldphartt]

Say what you want about his game, which I'm hoping the above is referring to but, by all accounts he is a good person. He spent the first half of the interview promoting his charity gig and is one of the most active athletes in the community. He truly does seem like a good person who happens to be a terrible ball player.

Indeed, I was talking about his game and associated arrogance as evidenced by his tweets and interviews like this.

 

I certainly have nothing against his community functions, whether they stem from his own desire to help or come from the organization.

[DuckDuckGose]

I'm sure the entire team is telling him to get out of the media. focus on baseball JP, you're on your way out of the league FFS.

[G-Snarls]

@ByChrisBlack: Arencibia fact #5: His .267 career OBP ranks 257th out of 258 players with 1,000+ plate appearances since 2010.

[DuckDuckGose]

Indeed, I was talking about his game and associated arrogance as evidenced by his tweets and interviews like this.

 

I certainly have nothing against his community functions, whether they stem from his own desire to help or come from the organization.

 

Fair enough. Carry on.

[John_Havok]

@ByChrisBlack: Arencibia fact #5: His .267 career OBP ranks 257th out of 258 players with 1,000+ plate appearances since 2010.

 

But he's trying really hard. We fans just don't know how hard the game really is and nobody cares more about his performance than him....

 

I think I just threw up in my mouth

[G-Snarls]

@TorontoStar: #bluejays J.P. #Arencibia needs to shut his critics up with his play, writes @RGriffinStar http://t.co/8lIcQ4JbTF Agree? Vote in our #poll

[John_Havok]

"Hayhurst ran into shoulder issues. "

 

Weighted ball program came a few years too late

[fatcowxlive]

@TorontoStar: #bluejays J.P. #Arencibia needs to shut his critics up with his play, writes @RGriffinStar http://t.co/8lIcQ4JbTF Agree? Vote in our #poll

 

It's awesome to see most of twitter, and the Toronto media turn on Arencibia this quick. Hopefully he can get hated enough to get traded