JaysForever Verified Member Posted January 4 Posted January 4 It is not impossible to sign either Tucker or Bo, or even both when it comes to the roster. Just that it is financially unlikely. C - Kirk/Heineman 1B - Vladdy/Okamoto 2B - Bo/Giminez/Clement SS - Giminez/Clement/Bo 3B - Okamoto/Barger/Clement RF - Tucker/Barger CF - Varsho/Straw LF - Santander/Tucker DH - Springer/Santander That is 13 players with Clement and Barger as your primary sub or rotation players. Straw and Heineman are your backup CF and C, as well as RH and LH bench bats. Signing both makes Lukes and Schneider both trade fodder. Signing one, makes one of them a trade piece. I am not saying the Jays will sign both or either, just that its not like they won't help the roster.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 4 Posted January 4 On 1/3/2026 at 12:42 PM, Jays24 said: Theres no space for Bo anymore. No way did KO sign with the Jays to be a platoon player. KO at 3rd. Bo at short or 2nd. Giminez platoons with Clement. Giminez was a 1 win player. He shouldn't be guaranteed playing time. He was terrible. I laugh at people who think we could never get rid of Straw and his 1 year 6 mil contract, but think Giminez has tremendous value. Straw put up 1.8 wins in 60 fewer at bats making 6 mil vs Giminez who's at 15.2 mil luxury tax number and 23 mil actual salary his last 3 years and he put up 1 win last year..lol. Jays24 1
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 4 Posted January 4 14 minutes ago, saskjayfan said: KO at 3rd. Bo at short or 2nd. Giminez platoons with Clement. Giminez was a 1 win player. He shouldn't be guaranteed playing time. He was terrible. I laugh at people who think we could never get rid of Straw and his 1 year 6 mil contract, but think Giminez has tremendous value. Straw put up 1.8 wins in 60 fewer at bats making 6 mil vs Giminez who's at 15.2 mil luxury tax number and 23 mil actual salary his last 3 years and he put up 1 win last year..lol. Gimenez has negative trade value sure but he still projects for 2 wins while Straw projects for nothing Straw somehow produced in 2025 but did not display any projectable skills in doing so other than D. He *probably* has no trade value and is a DFA and hide in Buffalo candidate Spanky__99 1
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Paxton Schultz has been designated for assignment to make room for Okamoto Spanky__99 1
Perfect Game Verified Member Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Schultz DFA'd to make room for Okamoto.
M.E. Verified Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Give me Tucker and a closer and I would be ecstatic
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, M.E. said: Give me Tucker and a closer and I would be ecstatic No closer's available, or is there? Next deadline is the likeliest avenue for that.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 11 hours ago, Jimcanuck said: My gut says the Jays moved on from Bo before FA even started. K.....
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 11 hours ago, G-Snarls said: Bring Bo back and the team is better in every way from last year except defense Starting rotation Bullpen Lineup All better Why defense... if Bo signs here our defense is better than last year? The team overall will be much better, no doubt. Git R Dun, Boss Atkins!
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 5 Posted January 5 56 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said: Why defense... if Bo signs here our defense is better than last year? The team overall will be much better, no doubt. Git R Dun, Boss Atkins! Santander and Okamoto playing near full time OF/3B is a bit of a step down. Swapping Gimenez and Bo is a step up. Overall it's probably close
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 7 hours ago, G-Snarls said: Santander and Okamoto playing near full time OF/3B is a bit of a step down. Swapping Gimenez and Bo is a step up. Overall it's probably close It sounds like there's a chance that Okamoto is as good defensively as Barger was at 3rd.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 11 hours ago, M.E. said: Give me Tucker and a closer and I would be ecstatic You don't say...
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 12 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: It sounds like there's a chance that Okamoto is as good defensively as Barger was at 3rd. Yes and with reps Barger should turn into an above average RF with that arm. The only defensive weakness is Santander, but he should handle LF just fine. Spanky__99 and JaysForever 2
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Can't wait to see healthy Tony Taters turn to his normal form of 40 HR, below average but acceptable OF defense
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 Seems like they should be able to trade Schultz for something small? Optionable for two more years, handled himself in MLB last year and looks like someone who can eat innings a hair above replacement level when needed. Not who I expected to get DFA'd. Brownie19 and Spanky__99 2
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Guessing Jays dont want to DFA Straw while theyre still in on Turner. If Bo signs then he's the guy I bet gets DFA'd and brought back like YRod.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 21 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Guessing Jays dont want to DFA Straw while theyre still in on Turner. If Bo signs then he's the guy I bet gets DFA'd and brought back like YRod. Straw is the only true CF left on the 40-man, I really don't think he's being DFA'd any time soon unless he stinks it up to begin the season (entirely possible). Funky and max silver 2
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Orgfiller said: Straw is the only true CF left on the 40-man, I really don't think he's being DFA'd any time soon unless he stinks it up to begin the season (entirely possible). DFA'ing for the purpose of knowing no other team will take him so you can stash him off the 40 man until you can move guys to the 60 day IL. He is 100% useful for his defense/baserunning/small ball approach. THANOS 1
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 50 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Guessing Jays dont want to DFA Straw while theyre still in on Turner. If Bo signs then he's the guy I bet gets DFA'd and brought back like YRod. DFA'ing Straw is a good idea in a similar sense as Yariel. Useful but you don't really mind if his money was freed up off the books either, so it would kind of be a win-win. That said, I think he has more service time than Yariel which makes keeping him after a DFA harder to do. Funky and Jays24 2
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Jim Bowden questioned the decision to sign Okamoto. He also got Tyler Rogers confused with his brother Taylor calling Tyler Rogers a big "left handed" addition to the Blue Jays bullpen. So anyone who was on the fence or confused should feel great about the Blue Jays decision now. BTS and G-Snarls 2
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 6 Posted January 6 which mouth breathing moron asked this in the mlbtraderumour chat? 1:18 Berrios, Schneider, and Adam Macko for Mason Miller. Who says no? Steve Adams 1:18 If that were all it took to get Miller, he'd be a Blue Jay 1:19 Actually, no, he'd be with another club, because another team would happily blow that package out of the water. It's a nonstarter. Berrios has negative trade value. Schneider is a bench piece. Macko might be like a fourth or fifth piece in an actual Miller package, but this doesn't even get the ball rolling. Gen.Disarray, BTS, Funky and 2 others 5
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 6 Posted January 6 59 minutes ago, John_Havok said: which mouth breathing moron asked this in the mlbtraderumour chat? 1:18 Berrios, Schneider, and Adam Macko for Mason Miller. Who says no? Steve Adams 1:18 If that were all it took to get Miller, he'd be a Blue Jay 1:19 Actually, no, he'd be with another club, because another team would happily blow that package out of the water. It's a nonstarter. Berrios has negative trade value. Schneider is a bench piece. Macko might be like a fourth or fifth piece in an actual Miller package, but this doesn't even get the ball rolling. Someone from the Jays subreddit I'm sure Stangstag and BTS 2
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, John_Havok said: which mouth breathing moron asked this in the mlbtraderumour chat? 1:18 Berrios, Schneider, and Adam Macko for Mason Miller. Who says no? Steve Adams 1:18 If that were all it took to get Miller, he'd be a Blue Jay 1:19 Actually, no, he'd be with another club, because another team would happily blow that package out of the water. It's a nonstarter. Berrios has negative trade value. Schneider is a bench piece. Macko might be like a fourth or fifth piece in an actual Miller package, but this doesn't even get the ball rolling. Facebook must have linked him to a live chat.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Mitch Bannon says that the Jays recent pursuit of Tucker has become "more aggressive."
The_DH Verified Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 I'm not sure how this would work out but if we trade Santander and cover the deferrals, then wouldn't the pickup team only be paying something like $6 mill a year in cash for Santander. Might be interesting to some cash strapped teams looking for some potential. It might be something worth exploring. JaysFan99 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 12 minutes ago, The_DH said: I'm not sure how this would work out but if we trade Santander and cover the deferrals, then wouldn't the pickup team only be paying something like $6 mill a year in cash for Santander. Might be interesting to some cash strapped teams looking for some potential. It might be something worth exploring. At that point, the Jays should just keep Santandar. Thats too great of a deal for someone id bet bounces back. You probably look elsewhere on the roster to trade for some prospects that you can use in a future trade or go get a true closer. abola2121 1
The_DH Verified Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 The problem is that we're overloaded with designated hitters. If you add Tucker, then the OF becomes Tucker, Varsho and Barger with Springer as DH. Let's assume Barger and Okimoto are either 3b or corner outfield. So where does Santander play? He's useless on the bench and keeps us from keeping a proper utility outfield.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, The_DH said: The problem is that we're overloaded with designated hitters. If you add Tucker, then the OF becomes Tucker, Varsho and Barger with Springer as DH. Let's assume Barger and Okimoto are either 3b or corner outfield. So where does Santander play? He's useless on the bench and keeps us from keeping a proper utility outfield. Tucker/Varsho are your full time OFers with Santandar sharing the OF with Barger who also platoons at 3B with Okamoto. This is assuming everyone remains healthy, which never happens. Then you let performance dictate who deserves to be playing more.
The_DH Verified Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Jays24 said: Tucker/Varsho are your full time OFers with Santandar sharing the OF with Barger who also platoons at 3B with Okamoto. This is assuming everyone remains healthy, which never happens. Then you let performance dictate who deserves to be playing more. Okay, you get 11 position players: Infield: Vlad, Clements, Giminez, Okamoto Outfield: Tucker, Varsho, Barger, Springer (DH) Utility/bench: 3 players: Straw, Schneider and Santander? You need another infielder here I think. So if Tucker gets signed, Santander has to go.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 7 Posted January 7 39 minutes ago, The_DH said: Okay, you get 11 position players: Infield: Vlad, Clements, Giminez, Okamoto Outfield: Tucker, Varsho, Barger, Springer (DH) Utility/bench: 3 players: Straw, Schneider and Santander? You need another infielder here I think. So if Tucker gets signed, Santander has to go. Barger and Schneider can also both play the infield. We have all kinds of versatility man. THANOS, Jays24 and JaysForever 3
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