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On 10/10/2025 at 10:52 AM, Terminator said:

A lot of people on this board owe Vlad an apology.

Normally, I'd suggest you all get together and combine on a big Swiss Chalet gift card for him but:

  1. he can afford to eat there on his own accord, and
  2. we don't need him eating that many calories anyway.

I think a normal apology works in this situation so all of you haters and losers (of which there are many) need to start fessing up.

Who's going to start?

I'm going to revoke my apology pretty soon. 

Posted
13 hours ago, Big_Walleye said:

I'm going to revoke my apology pretty soon. 

I feel like long term trends are just not what humans are meant to react to.  Like I guess long term tiger migration pattern maybe less important than short term tiger positioning so only need to react to short term.

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

Don't get me wrong.  No hate for Vlad.  Could make the hall of fame if he can avoid Prince Fielder problems and keeps on hitting missiles on the ground until he is 40.  Or maybe he will find the next mode someday... maybe in Seattle mid-week.  Then we will all love him again. 

Posted
38 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I feel like long term trends are just not what humans are meant to react to.  Like I guess long term tiger migration pattern maybe less important than short term tiger positioning so only need to react to short term.

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

there's a guy on here with one of those tiger rocks.  Like a tiger repellant.

Posted
1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I feel like long term trends are just not what humans are meant to react to.  Like I guess long term tiger migration pattern maybe less important than short term tiger positioning so only need to react to short term.

Vladimir Guerrero Jr.  - hit ball hard.  Mostly on ground.  If go up in sky sometimes goes out.  If hit ball up in sky 3 times in 3 days that happens from time to time... doesn't mean he has found Aaron Judge mode.   Will likely hit ball on ground lots still. 

The postseason is a short term trend being the problem.  The less you perform the shorter it is.  

The team was firing on all cylinders against the Yankees now they've all seemingly gone cold.  I guess we need to give credit to Seattle pitching. It would be easier for Vlad to perform if he had some help for sure.  If Kirk, Barger and Varsho were dangerous behind him things would be different.

Short term Tiger positioning has them on the sidelines.  It's the long term migration of the Mariners that's giving us problems.😄

Posted
10 minutes ago, Big_Walleye said:

It's the long term migration of the Mariners that's giving us problems.

If you go back 5 years long term Mariners have more wins than the Jays.   Is their division easier?  With Houston in it, and 2023 World Champions I have a hard time believing that. 

Run differential last 5 years Jays win.  However that is mostly from 2021.  

What I am saying is this.  Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners going back 5 years are pretty even.  Going back 2 days they are not very even.  The Seattle Mariners are far, far better.   Going back 5 weeks they are not even.  Seattle Mariners are far better.  Going back 1 year even again.

Should we hire Seattle's hitting coach for Vlad?  Or Aaron Judge's hitting coach?  (Yankees apparently want our hitting coach). 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

If you go back 5 years long term Mariners have more wins than the Jays.   Is their division easier?  With Houston in it, and 2023 World Champions I have a hard time believing that. 

Run differential last 5 years Jays win.  However that is mostly from 2021.  

What I am saying is this.  Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners going back 5 years are pretty even.  Going back 2 days they are not very even.  The Seattle Mariners are far, far better.   Going back 5 weeks they are not even.  Seattle Mariners are far better.  Going back 1 year even again.

Should we hire Seattle's hitting coach for Vlad?  Or Aaron Judge's hitting coach?  (Yankees apparently want our hitting coach). 

 

8 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said:

The jays were going to revolutionize the game after the ALDS, like sabermetrics in early 2000s.  But no, I think we're good with lots of strikeouts and dingers.

The dingers and strikeouts lineup should be pitchable with the scrappy type Jays lineup being less so providing you locate your pitches.  When you've got guys like Varland who throw it middle middle it usually doesn't end well.

When the Jays are scrappy AND hit homers like they did against the Yankees they're next to unbeatable.  That's just not happening atm (credit Seattle pitching).

The divisions they play in are fairly even with the perennially bad Angels being the difference.

Posted
3 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

If you go back 5 years long term Mariners have more wins than the Jays.   Is their division easier?  With Houston in it, and 2023 World Champions I have a hard time believing that. 

Run differential last 5 years Jays win.  However that is mostly from 2021.  

What I am saying is this.  Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners going back 5 years are pretty even.  Going back 2 days they are not very even.  The Seattle Mariners are far, far better.   Going back 5 weeks they are not even.  Seattle Mariners are far better.  Going back 1 year even again.

Should we hire Seattle's hitting coach for Vlad?  Or Aaron Judge's hitting coach?  (Yankees apparently want our hitting coach). 

The top of the divisions are similar sure, but the Athletics lost over 100 games twice and 90 games once in that time frame.  The Angels have averaged over 90 losses in that time.  The Rangers have averaged close to 87 losses including 102 in 2021.  Only one team in the AL East has had a 90 loss season in the last 5 years and it was just one year(2021 Orioles).

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