2025 Trade Deadline

[BTS]

10 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

Holy s*** the traded De Vries for a reliever 

[BTS]

Miller-Suarez-Morejon-Adam is absurd. Like, that can carry you to a world series. 

[Masterbather]

2 minutes ago, metafour said:

Bieber is 30 years old, Gausman is going to be 35 in ~5 months.

The difference here is that Bieber is still in the age range where he can reasonably be expected to pitch consistently at a high level if his stuff is back to normal. He isn't old. Gausman isn't an ace anymore because he is aging and declining, as expected.

Bieber was absolutely elite in a small 12-inning sample last season before he blew his arm out: 20 strikeouts to 1 walk in 12 innings.

What he said. 

Bieber was one of the absolute studs in baseball before his UCL gave in.

[jaysblue]

Go trade for Rooker now. If the A’s moved Miller, they’ll move a 30-year-old DH/corner OF. 

[june.june]

Steven Kwan and Cease for my own personal want and call it a day 

 

[jmomcc]

Gausman is 35 and not coming off a major injury and has had three consecutive years including this one better than Bieber's last healthy year. 

Unless age regression kicks in massively in the next two months, its likely Gausman is better for the time we have control of Bieber. 
 

Next year, Bieber is probably better. We don't have him next year. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Imagine if the Jays snagged Cease now?

That'd be insane wouldn't it.

 

Seems unlikely, but going into the playoffs with Bieber, Cease, Gausman starting would be nutso.

[Terminator]

10 minutes ago, BTS said:

Miller-Suarez-Morejon-Adam is absurd. Like, that can carry you to a world series. 

Jeremiah Estrada too.

[Angrioter]

44 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

Beiber has a player option for $16M, so if he's good this year when he returns, he's gone. That's a steep price imo for two months (hopefully) of Beiber. 

If he pitch well, he'll be a FA

[Terminator]

2 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Imagine if the Jays snagged Cease now?

That'd be insane wouldn't it.

 

Seems unlikely, but going into the playoffs with Bieber, Cease, Gausman starting would be nutso.

Hard to get a read on what the hell the Padres are doing but if they are trying to move Cease and get a lesser starter back we could be a match. 

Bassitt or Berrios plus Nimmala for Cease and Suarez.*

Don't tar and feather me I'm just spitballing a trade without even looking at fangraphs dot com first

[Masterbather]

4 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Gausman is 35 and not coming off a major injury and has had three consecutive years including this one better than Bieber's last healthy year. 

Unless age regression kicks in massively in the next two months, its likely Gausman is better for the time we have control of Bieber. 
 

Next year, Bieber is probably better. We don't have him next year. 

2022 was Beiber's last healthy year, not 2023, he had injuries in 2023. 

If you want to argue that his health is a concern, fair enough, but a healthy Bieber>>Gausman

[BTS]

3 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Jeremiah Estrada too.

That might legit be the best bullpen ever assembled. 

[Grant77]

15 minutes ago, BTS said:

Miller-Suarez-Morejon-Adam is absurd. Like, that can carry you to a world series. 

I bet they trade Suarez

[Masterbather]

Padres are some mad scientists. 

They add a touch of fun to things 

[jmomcc]

3 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

2022 was Beiber's last healthy year, not 2023, he had injuries in 2023. 

If you want to argue that his health is a concern, fair enough, but a healthy Bieber>>Gausman

If you are arguing me that 2022 should be the guuge of anything, then yea.... 

[BTS]

1 minute ago, Grant77 said:

I bet they trade Suarez

Yeah. Their fans seem to be expecting it. Apparently they're looking for an OF or C, so would probably have to be a 3-way, with Suarez flipped for prospects then prospects being sent out for the help they need. 

Sean Murphy would make a ton of sense for them. 

[jmomcc]

4 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Hard to get a read on what the hell the Padres are doing but if they are trying to move Cease and get a lesser starter back we could be a match. 

Bassitt or Berrios plus Nimmala for Cease and Suarez.*

Don't tar and feather me I'm just spitballing a trade without even looking at fangraphs dot com first

If we could dump the berrios contract on the padres, i'd be estatic. 

[Terminator]

Let's trade them Joey Loperfido for Dylan Cease

[Stangstag]

22 minutes ago, BTS said:

Miller-Suarez-Morejon-Adam is absurd. Like, that can carry you to a world series. 

Saurez will definitely be moved

[Terminator]

8 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Padres are some mad scientists. 

They add a touch of fun to things 

Yeah AJ Preller is a psychopath but he sure knows how to make things fun

They've got a lot of s*** talking players and a fun home crowd to boot

[Laika]

 

 

[jmomcc]

AJ Preller has to his core the belief that he can always find more and is rarely wrong. 
 

also, if he does try miller as a starter that would be interesting. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

The Padres are moving Suarez because he can opt out after this season and likely will?

Man, get Cease, Suarez and then get Bednar too.

f*** it. Load up.

[Jays24]

It is unreal the amount of trades the Padres have made the past several years.  I am always in the camp of "proven MLB players >>> prospects" and they do a great job of that.  It just sucks for them that they share a division with the Dodgers lol. 

[John_Havok]

1 hour ago, BB17 said:

Yeah its a lot to give up but you had to do it. This could be the best chance the Jays have to win the division for the next 7 years so you have to capitalize. Still need a couple bullpen arms.

I'd say 1 pen arm plus that RH OF.   Bader + pen arm would be about as good a deadline as they could have with what they have already acquired

[jerb]

 

[Laika]

okayyyy so we aren't getting Kwan

[abola2121]

I don't care for the team's WS chances if we're still stuck with a 4+ ERA closer by the end of the day.

[Grant77]

1 minute ago, jerb said:

 

Laughable, if true. With his defense declining and salary increasing, this is a prime time to sell high on him.

[Pendleton]

Read that the Guardians are seeking a young catcher and the Dodgers are after Kwan, so perhaps we'll see Kwan for Rushing(+)