Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 JD Davis to the A's on a one year deal for $2.5M, plus $1M in potential performance bonuses. Maybe he'll save some money and hassle by not having to move. Edit - Davis also gets 1.1M in termination pay from the Giants, so he's guaranteed 3.6M and can make up to 4.6M. Which means he'll lose between 2.3M-3.3M after the Giants cut ties
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 JD Davis to the A's on a one year deal for $2.5M, plus $1M in potential performance bonuses. Maybe he'll save some money and hassle by not having to move. Edit - Davis also gets 1.1M in termination pay from the Giants, so he's guaranteed 3.6M and can make up to 4.6M. Which means he'll lose between 2.3M-3.3M after the Giants cut ties I don't know if they were there in previous CBAs, but the incentives in the current CBA should probably be addressed. Teams are incentivized to lowball arbitration eligible players pre-arb. It's better for them to go to arbitration than to settle because that preserves the flexibility to cut players before the season if roster situations change between December and opening day. Players are not incentivized to maximize earnings because the more they make, the more likely they get cut a few weeks before the season and hit the FA market when most teams have no more money to spend. It's pretty crazy that they arrived at this set of rules.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 Other than the perfect game against an AAAA squad I must have missed the memo on Domingo German being good? Might as well go see if Drew Hutchison is still an active pitcher and sign him again. German is definitely worth a minor league deal and 1.25M prorated when he's ready to pitch in the MLB, don't be so obtuse.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 German would be a solid #5 starter on just about every team, including the Jays IMO. Either he didn't want to be a Jay, or Rogers/Shatkins didn't want him to be a Jay. Whether it's based on his character or they feel they've internally got the SP depth they need we'll probably never know. There was rumors they kicked tires on him though if I remember correctly.
The_DH Verified Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 JD Davis to the A's on a one year deal for $2.5M, plus $1M in potential performance bonuses. Maybe he'll save some money and hassle by not having to move. Edit - Davis also gets 1.1M in termination pay from the Giants, so he's guaranteed 3.6M and can make up to 4.6M. Which means he'll lose between 2.3M-3.3M after the Giants cut ties Kind of shows the arbitration process does not use market value.
ilovejohnschneider Verified Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 yea Spanky you are a bit out of touch. stop thanks fishing spilky !!
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Author Posted March 16, 2024 I don't know if they were there in previous CBAs, but the incentives in the current CBA should probably be addressed. Teams are incentivized to lowball arbitration eligible players pre-arb. It's better for them to go to arbitration than to settle because that preserves the flexibility to cut players before the season if roster situations change between December and opening day. Players are not incentivized to maximize earnings because the more they make, the more likely they get cut a few weeks before the season and hit the FA market when most teams have no more money to spend. It's pretty crazy that they arrived at this set of rules. It was one of those things that’s as already there prior to this CBA. The gains the players made on this one compared to the last one was that anyone who agrees to a deal prior to arbitration is now 100% guaranteed, they didn’t have that before. So, flipping it a bit, before the last CBA agreement, teams could cut anyone who was in their arb years and had agreed to a deal before the hearing …or they could cut him after the hearing if they wanted to and just pay out the termination pay. With the new CBA the owners gave up the ability to get out from under the vast majority of arbitration deals once most are agreed to without hearings. That’s a pretty big win for the players. It’s playing out poorly for Davis in this instance, but I highly doubt this will become common practice. It would be very easily seen through as anti-competitive and collusion-ish
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Author Posted March 16, 2024 Kind of shows the arbitration process does not use market value. It never has or the players would are shitloads more money in arbitration
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Author Posted March 16, 2024 Stroman getting nuked a bit by the NY media/fans Marcus Stroman declined the Yankees when asked if he wanted to pitch Opening Day in place of Gerrit Cole, noting a desire to maintain his current routine and to not alter his pitching schedule.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 Stroman getting nuked a bit by the NY media/fans Marcus Stroman declined the Yankees when asked if he wanted to pitch Opening Day in place of Gerrit Cole, noting a desire to maintain his current routine and to not alter his pitching schedule. I read that he and the staff agreed to not altering his routine, or I misread it.
BatFlip Verified Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 Why, he'd help this team? Don't like his history and don't want him on the team. I'd rather throw Francis out there and see if he can have a long-term future as a back-end starter (and a cheap one). Point is kinda moot since I'm assuming German would only sign where he has a very good chance of becoming a rotation regular (i.e. Pittsburgh).
The_DH Verified Member Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 It never has or the players would are shitloads more money in arbitration It just seems like there will be an attempt to control contract prices going forward. Back when the management did what they did to Andre Dawson and others, the managers bit off too much and looked bad. But if management does things like not signing late players and leaving players on the vine, then it could work.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2024 Author Posted March 16, 2024 It just seems like there will be an attempt to control contract prices going forward. Back when the management did what they did to Andre Dawson and others, the managers bit off too much and looked bad. But if management does things like not signing late players and leaving players on the vine, then it could work. Okay, but….since teams could already sign guys in or out of a hearing before and exceptionally rarely did…why would that change now when they’ve lost the ability to do so with the vast majority of players and it could have happened with literally dozens of other players this year and it didn’t?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 17, 2024 Author Posted March 17, 2024 Tampa's owner already crying poor for the season: As relayed by Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times, principle owner Stuart Sternberg recently spoke regarding the new high-water mark for spending in Tampa and the club’s future payrolls. In his comments, Sternberg indicated that the elevated payroll for 2024 is “going to lead to real losses this year” for the club.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 Stroman getting nuked a bit by the NY media/fans Marcus Stroman declined the Yankees when asked if he wanted to pitch Opening Day in place of Gerrit Cole, noting a desire to maintain his current routine and to not alter his pitching schedule. Also, the media thinks it is because Stroman wants to pitch the Yankees home opener and if he starts game 1 on the road he would be out of sync for the home opener. The Yankee's home opener being against the Blue Jays of course.
BatFlip Verified Member Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 Also, the media thinks it is because Stroman wants to pitch the Yankees home opener and if he starts game 1 on the road he would be out of sync for the home opener. The Yankee's home opener being against the Blue Jays of course. Heart over height bro. Also, personal schedule over team. If we light him up it's going to put joy in my heart.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 Josh Lowe will miss the start of the season They don't look very good on paper but somehow they always win more games than you think they will
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Padres vs LG Twins right now , free game of the day on mlb
mphenhef Verified Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 German would be a solid #5 starter on just about every team, including the Jays IMO. Either he didn't want to be a Jay, or Rogers/Shatkins didn't want him to be a Jay. Whether it's based on his character or they feel they've internally got the SP depth they need we'll probably never know. There was rumors they kicked tires on him though if I remember correctly. I can't see any way possible they even considered a guy who hit his girlfriend in public (and beat her in private)
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 German is definitely worth a minor league deal and 1.25M prorated when he's ready to pitch in the MLB, don't be so obtuse. Ok, he might be worth it in that any player might be worth that type of deal since the risk is so low. But he's not worth lamenting over that some other team got him.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 I can't see any way possible they even considered a guy who hit his girlfriend in public (and beat her in private) The objective view is he’s a very sold #5 that a LOT of teams could use. I’m thinking PIT was the only team worth giving him a shot. I feel like he’ll get “washed” this year by playing on a mlb team and letting the initial drama die down. Same would’ve gone for Bauer who isn’t pitching. It’s really hard to explain how a two time wife beater and guy that was constantly drunk and damaging locker rooms is worth bringing on but not TB, considering baseball skills.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 From Rotoworld Aaron Judge did not hit on the field on Monday, as he was scheduled to do. So far the Yankees have said Judge was removed from a game after a pre-arranged two at-bats. That was not true. They have said Judge would hit on the field on Saturday, which he didn’t do. They then said he would hit on the field on Monday, which he did not do. Judge has been swinging off a tee and was doing outfield drills early on Monday, so he’s still preparing for the start of the season, but the lack of a clear timeline for his return and the vague responses from the Yankees are beginning to get a bit troubling for a player who has dealt with injuries in the past. Considering the team had already said Judge would have to manage his toe injury all season, the risks are beginning to mount for Judge if you’re planning to take him in the early part of the first round of fantasy drafts.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Yankees without Judge and Cole are < 500 team
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 From Rotoworld Aaron Judge did not hit on the field on Monday, as he was scheduled to do. So far the Yankees have said Judge was removed from a game after a pre-arranged two at-bats. That was not true. They have said Judge would hit on the field on Saturday, which he didn’t do. They then said he would hit on the field on Monday, which he did not do. Judge has been swinging off a tee and was doing outfield drills early on Monday, so he’s still preparing for the start of the season, but the lack of a clear timeline for his return and the vague responses from the Yankees are beginning to get a bit troubling for a player who has dealt with injuries in the past. Considering the team had already said Judge would have to manage his toe injury all season, the risks are beginning to mount for Judge if you’re planning to take him in the early part of the first round of fantasy drafts. I'm guessing this means he has a sports hernia that'll hamper him all season. On top of the toe injury that he also needs to manage.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Rodon pitched 5.2 no hit innings today with a BB and 5K's. Hmm...
wamco Verified Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 rodon pitched 5.2 no hit innings today with a bb and 5k's. Hmm... k….
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Stone is the Dodgers 5th starter and they said Ohtani will likely play in the field at some point this season. He's starting his throwing rehab shortly.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted March 19, 2024 Posted March 19, 2024 Can't say he isn't trying... lol. MLB probably not a fan of the stunts
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