2022 Trade Deadline Thread

[L54]

The Jays biggest chip, Moreno, plays the same position as half the return for Trea Turner.

 

I doubt the Jays have the sheer prospect volume to get a trade done.

[The Iceman]

Maybe grab a LH RP at the deadline.

 

Seattle has a 6'4" 28 year old guy, allowed just 1 run his last 11 appearances...never mind. It is Borucki

[Daniel Labude]

The Jays biggest chip, Moreno, plays the same position as half the return for Trea Turner.

 

I doubt the Jays have the sheer prospect volume to get a trade done.

 

That was Turner and Scherzer

[L54]

That was Turner and Scherzer

 

Yes but they still got Keibert Ruiz

[Krylian]

Maybe grab a LH RP at the deadline.

 

Seattle has a 6'4" 28 year old guy, allowed just 1 run his last 11 appearances...never mind. It is Borucki

 

Of course it is.

[Stangstag]

Maybe grab a LH RP at the deadline.

 

Seattle has a 6'4" 28 year old guy, allowed just 1 run his last 11 appearances...never mind. It is Borucki

 

Whatever, he was s*** with us the past 2 years and im glad we don’t have to see his stupid f***ing face as he hands the ball back to the manager after being pulled for giving up 2 walks and a double.

[Jays24]

Whatever, he was s*** with us the past 2 years and im glad we don’t have to see his stupid f***ing face as he hands the ball back to the manager after being pulled for giving up 2 walks and a double.

 

But wait... isn't Pete Walker the magician that should have been able to "fix" him? Nothing makes me laugh more at how people view that man when our pitching is as bad as it is lol.

[Stangstag]

But wait... isn't Pete Walker the magician that should have been able to "fix" him? Nothing makes me laugh more at how people view that man when our pitching is as bad as it is lol.

 

Clearly Berrios is immune to the Pete Walker magic. Dude has been absolutely terrible this year

[glory]

Maybe grab a LH RP at the deadline.

 

Seattle has a 6'4" 28 year old guy, allowed just 1 run his last 11 appearances...never mind. It is Borucki

 

A s***** Blue Jays reliever going elsewhere and succeeding is becoming an annual thing now.

[Spanky99]

Uhmm... Borucki's s***.

[max silver]

Clearly Berrios is immune to the Pete Walker magic. Dude has been absolutely terrible this year

 

It's entirely possible that Berrios has turned his season around. His last 4 starts are pretty much peak performance level. 3.09 ERA/2.94 FIP/11.19 K/9 with underlying statcast numbers to back up a turnaround as his quality of contact numbers have been much better as well. I'm just going out on a limb here but it seems at least slightly possible that Walker was involved in assisting with the tweaks Berrios has been making recently.

[max silver]

Uhmm... Borucki's s***.

 

The Blue Jays version certainly was. From examining his numbers it seems entirely possible that the Mariners coaching staff has turned him around though.

[Spanky99]

The Blue Jays version certainly was. From examining his numbers it seems entirely possible that the Mariners coaching staff has turned him around though.

 

He's still walking guys, he's s***.

[Solaxys]

The Blue Jays version certainly was. From examining his numbers it seems entirely possible that the Mariners coaching staff has turned him around though.

 

I don't know about that; his FIP/xFIP against any .500+ teams is still pretty high (6.20 xFIP); his stats look good cause of the 4 games against struggling/injured Angels.

His walk rate against .500+ teams is 7.07 BB/9.

He improved his GB% rate though, but that could just be getting lucky with BABIP.

 

Not to mention Seattle typically uses him as a lefty specialist where he is only brought in if there's at least 2 lefties coming in the next 3-batter sequence.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Solaxys

[G-Snarls]

This going to be a relatively quiet trade deadline?

[Spanky99]

This going to be a relatively quiet trade deadline?

 

I doubt that very much, it's a seller's market, so the price is relatively higher at the moment. 8 days remain.

[Brownie19]

A lot of talk that having the draft when they did was a bad idea. Too much on teams plates to have the draft, be trying to sign those players and have the trade deadline all within like a 2 week period.

[John_Havok]

A lot of talk that having the draft when they did was a bad idea. Too much on teams plates to have the draft, be trying to sign those players and have the trade deadline all within like a 2 week period.

 

I really hate that narrative. Teams have dozens and dozens and dozens of people working on these things practically around the clock. It's not like they suddenly woke up after the draft and were like... wait, we might need to improve the club in the next two weeks?

 

OMG GET ON IT! Is the rotation good? Who's on the injury list? Do we need a reliever? Wait, who's in left field? What about the bench, how's that looking?

 

There's been talks going on for weeks guaranteed, its just the urgency picks up a bit and there will finally be some back and forth negotiation happening now.

[Laika]

A lot of talk that having the draft when they did was a bad idea. Too much on teams plates to have the draft, be trying to sign those players and have the trade deadline all within like a 2 week period.

 

I've talked to people who work for teams and this is true.

 

They all have limited manpower since most of the budget is on the field. The draft and the trade deadline are big, big events. They compete for bandwidth and I bet tons of trade talks just don't even really pick up until the draft is over and most player signings are done.

[Eat My Shatkins]

f***ing stupid Angels.

 

Jays need Ohtani man.

 

Of course, if they made him available he probably ends up a Dodger.

 

Or worse, a Yankee

[jaysblue]

This going to be a relatively quiet trade deadline?

 

Atkins has been active the past two deadlines making several additions, so I think the Jays will definitely bring in 4 to 5 new bodies.

 

I think they go after Quintana, a left handed bat, maybe some depth on the bench and easily 2 relievers.

[Grant77]

Atkins has been active the past two deadlines making several additions, so I think the Jays will definitely bring in 4 to 5 new bodies.

 

I think they go after Quintana, a left handed bat, maybe some depth on the bench and easily 2 relievers.

 

I like Quintana or Chad Kuhl as a depth starter. I don't think there's a major need for a big ticket starter at this point

 

Tyler Naquin and Lou Trivino stand out as good targets to me. Trivino would be a lot like when we traded for Robbie Ray and we love dealing with the A's.

[Terminator]

I don't think a left handed bat is that necessary.

 

For whoever we were to acquire, the barrier to crack the starting lineup is someone better than Gurriel/Hernandez in the OF or Kirk at DH. That's a damn good bat and would cost a lot. But if we aim lower and go for a bench bat, said bat needs to be better than Raimel Tapia or Cavan Biggio, both of whom are hitting better than league average.

 

Sure, if a superstar like Soto is involved I'm all ears but otherwise we need to use our bullets on pitching.

[Orgfiller]

I don't think a left handed bat is that necessary.

 

For whoever we were to acquire, the barrier to crack the starting lineup is someone better than Gurriel/Hernandez in the OF or Kirk at DH. That's a damn good bat and would cost a lot. But if we aim lower and go for a bench bat, said bat needs to be better than Raimel Tapia or Cavan Biggio, both of whom are hitting better than league average.

 

Sure, if a superstar like Soto is involved I'm all ears but otherwise we need to use our bullets on pitching.

 

Yeah, the ironic thing is this team is actually better against RHP than LHP. Team wRC+ against righties is 116 which is third in the league, vs. lefties it's 109 which is 13th in the league. So even if we factor in some splits regression the team is probably at worst equally good against either handedness? We already often platoon guys like Biggio and Espinal or Tapia even though neither of these lefties actually have severe splits. So with that said I agree there's no real reason for us to go and pick up an ok lefty simply for the sake of them being a left handed hitter.

 

Maybe you look for an upgrade on Zimmer in the form of a Billy Hamilton type, although even he isn't the runner or fielder that he used to be at this point and at least with the former there's some tools there for him to literally not be completely useless at the plate despite his being so thus far.

[Orgfiller]

I wonder how much it would take to acquire Victor Robles. Capable CF defender with good speed, swings an absolute pool noodle but projects well enough to be better than Zimmer. Also another Latin guy who could mesh well with the team and potentially give him the motivation to unlock his prospect tools, is only 25 and has a couple of years of control, but his value should be so diminished that you wouldn't need to pay very much for him and we know the Nats are selling.

 

Just looked, his max exit velos aren't awful so there's at least the potential to hit the ball hard, but the majority of the time currently he might as well be tossing grounders and soft liners into the outfield himself rather than bringing a bat.

[max silver]

I wonder how much it would take to acquire Victor Robles. Capable CF defender with good speed, swings an absolute pool noodle but projects well enough to be better than Zimmer. Also another Latin guy who could mesh well with the team and potentially give him the motivation to unlock his prospect tools, is only 25 and has a couple of years of control, but his value should be so diminished that you wouldn't need to pay very much for him and we know the Nats are selling.

 

Just looked, his max exit velos aren't awful so there's at least the potential to hit the ball hard, but the majority of the time currently he might as well be tossing grounders and soft liners into the outfield himself rather than bringing a bat.

 

That's a really interesting potential trade target. I took a gander at baseballtradevalues and that site lists Robles's value at essentially nothing at 0.5 million. He would be a sizeable upgrade over Zimmer on the bases and provide a similar level of defense while also not being a complete black hole at the plate despite his deficiencies.

[Grant77]

I don't think a left handed bat is that necessary.

 

For whoever we were to acquire, the barrier to crack the starting lineup is someone better than Gurriel/Hernandez in the OF or Kirk at DH. That's a damn good bat and would cost a lot. But if we aim lower and go for a bench bat, said bat needs to be better than Raimel Tapia or Cavan Biggio, both of whom are hitting better than league average.

 

Sure, if a superstar like Soto is involved I'm all ears but otherwise we need to use our bullets on pitching.

 

You're looking at it through the lens of an injury free finish to the season. What we're really doing if we add a bat is upgrading on Bradley Zimmer, Otto Lopez, and/or Vinny Capra.

 

I don't think trading some A ball lottery ticket for a guy like Tyler Naquin precludes us from adding pitching, but he might make the difference for us if the season comes down to one game.

[Angrioter]

Groshans for Ramon Laureano

[Stangstag]

Groshans for Ramon Laureano

 

In a heartbeat. Massive underpay though IMO

[Eat My Shatkins]

What do we want Laureano for?

 

Right handed hitting OF who has less fWAR and a lower wRC+ than Springer, Gurriel and Hernandez.