Around Baseball 2020

[Olerud363]

They are making it up as they go and the plan was not wholesome.

 

Ideally they would just be able to isolate players and contact trace, etc., and fill in rosters from the 60 man pool. That's the whole point of the 30 man rosters and 60 man pools.

 

BUT failures in player discipline, testing accuracy, testing turnaround, and complications from local and state policies, have ruined the plans.

 

Baseball's hope for how it all could or would work seems to have been too Utopian.

 

NHL and NBA have taken more realistic approaches with their bubbles. MLB really should have bubbles in a few select places, possible with Toronto being one.

 

In retrospect 5 6 team bubbles. 5 division winners make playoffs. 5 second place teams go into a 3 day wild card tournament to decide 3 wild cards.

 

Toronto bubble presided by Justin Trudeau - Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Orioles, Detroit.

 

NY bubble presided by Andrew Cuomo - NY Yankees, NY Mets, Boston, Atlanta, Washington, Colorado

 

Red state bubble presided by Donald J. Trump - Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, Arizona Diamond Backs, Tampa, Florida Marlins, Reds

 

California bubble presided by Gavim Newson, Dodgers, Angels, Padres, As, Giants, Mariners

 

Mid west bubble presided by Joni Ernst - Royals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals, Twins

 

Note - Colorado didn't have a natural home in any of the bubbles so go put into the NY Bubble, even though it's not a good fit, Colorado not coastal, not exactly mid west, and not a red state (last election at least).

 

Note Game times (local time zone) 12:00 pm, 4:00 pm, 8:00 pm or as dictated by game length.

[Laika]

In retrospect 5 6 team bubbles. 5 division winners make playoffs. 5 second place teams go into a 3 day wild card tournament to decide 3 wild cards.

 

Toronto bubble presided by Justin Trudeau - Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Orioles, Detroit.

 

NY bubble presided by Andrew Cuomo - NY Yankees, NY Mets, Boston, Atlanta, Washington, Colorado

 

Red state bubble presided by Donald J. Trump - Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, Arizona Diamond Backs, Tampa, Florida Marlins, Reds

 

California bubble presided by Gavim Newson, Dodgers, Angels, Padres, As, Giants, Mariners

 

Mid west bubble presided by Joni Ernst - Royals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals, Twins

 

Note - Colorado didn't have a natural home in any of the bubbles so go put into the NY Bubble, even though it's not a good fit, Colorado not coastal, not exactly mid west, and not a red state (last election at least).

 

Note Game times (local time zone) 12:00 pm, 4:00 pm, 8:00 pm or as dictated by game length.

 

They clearly should have done something like this. Idiocy to have teams travelling all over the country, in and out of every MLB city.

 

I guess it is much more complicated in baseball though, compared to hockey or basketball, with the need for huge 60 man player pools, games every day, field quality demands.

Edited July 31, 2020 by Laika

[BTS]

In retrospect 5 6 team bubbles. 5 division winners make playoffs. 5 second place teams go into a 3 day wild card tournament to decide 3 wild cards.

 

Toronto bubble presided by Justin Trudeau - Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Orioles, Detroit.

 

NY bubble presided by Andrew Cuomo - NY Yankees, NY Mets, Boston, Atlanta, Washington, Colorado

 

Red state bubble presided by Donald J. Trump - Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, Arizona Diamond Backs, Tampa, Florida Marlins, Reds

 

California bubble presided by Gavim Newson, Dodgers, Angels, Padres, As, Giants, Mariners

 

Mid west bubble presided by Joni Ernst - Royals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals, Twins

 

Note - Colorado didn't have a natural home in any of the bubbles so go put into the NY Bubble, even though it's not a good fit, Colorado not coastal, not exactly mid west, and not a red state (last election at least).

 

Note Game times (local time zone) 12:00 pm, 4:00 pm, 8:00 pm or as dictated by game length.

 

It’s remarkable that they didn’t land on something resembling this. Flying from city to city for like 20 different 3-game series is insane

[Daniel Labude]

I don't understand why they even bothered to start the season if every positive test was going to result in games being postponed.

 

It wasn't going to, the Marlins ruined/changed it for everyone though, at least at this time

[G-Snarls]

Brodie VW trade work not looking good at this early point...

[Sorrow]

I am really surprised that they're not doing like Indy ball schedules. Play a full week in one location then travel to the next.

[Stangstag]

I am really surprised that they're not doing like Indy ball schedules. Play a full week in one location then travel to the next.

 

Yeah i was extremely confused when the schedules first came out and they just looked like a regular MLB season with the same amount of travel. All they did was reduce the distance of travel by geo-locking the schedule. They did absolutely nothing to change the frequency of travel and contact with new teams every 3-4 days, which seems a lot more important.

[glory]

I am really surprised that they're not doing like Indy ball schedules. Play a full week in one location then travel to the next.

 

Yeah when the regional alignment of the schedule was first talked about, I assumed teams would play two 5 game series' against their division rivals so they never had to travel to that spot again. Hell, even a 10 game series would have made sense to avoid travel at all. Instead it was the standard 2-4 game series' with more travel than necessary.

 

Not only did they not want a bubble, but they even messed up the non bubble scheduling. I almost think baseball was better off not coming back because of players and owners fighting about money. Now they've not only fought about money, but proven they are incompetent in the wake of a pandemic when every other league is probably going to finish their seasons.

[philly30]

Once Trout complained about the bubble that was it, there was not going to be one

[philly30]

In retrospect 5 6 team bubbles. 5 division winners make playoffs. 5 second place teams go into a 3 day wild card tournament to decide 3 wild cards.

 

Toronto bubble presided by Justin Trudeau - Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Orioles, Detroit.

 

NY bubble presided by Andrew Cuomo - NY Yankees, NY Mets, Boston, Atlanta, Washington, Colorado

 

Red state bubble presided by Donald J. Trump - Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, Arizona Diamond Backs, Tampa, Florida Marlins, Reds

 

California bubble presided by Gavim Newson, Dodgers, Angels, Padres, As, Giants, Mariners

 

Mid west bubble presided by Joni Ernst - Royals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals, Twins

 

Note - Colorado didn't have a natural home in any of the bubbles so go put into the NY Bubble, even though it's not a good fit, Colorado not coastal, not exactly mid west, and not a red state (last election at least).

 

Note Game times (local time zone) 12:00 pm, 4:00 pm, 8:00 pm or as dictated by game length.

 

This may be the 2021 set up

[Carlos Danger]

So when it rains it pours.. In this case literally... Hurricane Isaias is tracking to go up the east coast of the US, affecting areas like Baltimore, DC, with rain etc...Maybe later moving up towards NY, Boston... Depending on shifts could mean rain for places like Atlanta also... Miami is not playing so won't affect them.. But just one more wrench in the mix

[G-Snarls]

Once Trout complained about the bubble that was it, there was not going to be one

 

And now he's taken off on paternity leave. Wow

[Laika]

I am really surprised that they're not doing like Indy ball schedules. Play a full week in one location then travel to the next.

 

+9000

 

f*** bob man fred

[Terminator]

One issue that baseball didn't prepare for at all is that it is a daily sport. Covid can really throw the league schedule into a tailspin because when an outbreak occurs the canceled games pile up in a big hurry. They should have had a week long break midway through the season as well as a break after the season to fit in any games before playoffs start. The owners and players taking forever to come to an agreement probably prevented their ability to do that though.

[Jimcanuck]

So when it rains it pours.. In this case literally... Hurricane Isaias is tracking to go up the east coast of the US, affecting areas like Baltimore, DC, with rain etc...Maybe later moving up towards NY, Boston... Depending on shifts could mean rain for places like Atlanta also... Miami is not playing so won't affect them.. But just one more wrench in the mix

 

I have read the conditions are ripe for a bad hurricane season. f*** 2020.

[philly30]

I have read the conditions are ripe for a bad hurricane season. f*** 2020.

 

They pretty much say that every year, have to keep the people scared and watching the news

[Jimcanuck]

They pretty much say that every year, have to keep the people scared and watching the news

 

Nah, no conspiracy here. The conditions for hurricanes are getting worse every year.

 

The intensity, frequency, and duration of North Atlantic hurricanes, as well as the frequency of the strongest (Category 4 and 5) hurricanes, have all increased since the early 1980s. ... Hurricane-associated storm intensity and rainfall rates are projected to increase as the climate continues to warm.

[Daniel Labude]

[TwistedLogic]

I'm not sure who Stewart Mandel is but this take makes me hate him more than almost any other human on the entire planet.

[Krylian]

I'm not sure who Stewart Mandel is but this take makes me hate him more than almost any other human on the entire planet.

 

I think there's enough hate to go around. Lots of people to blame for this s*** show.

[Spanky99]

[Orgfiller]

 

The Marlins representing their city and state very well.

[Krylian]

Couldn't happen to a shittier organization.

[TheHurl]

I have compliance experience. I should get an application in

[King]

Time to start appreciating Randy Dobnak for what he is: a bonafide #2 SP with a +++ groundball rate.

[BTS]

Donaldson left tonight's game with another calf injury.

[Grant77]

Couldn't happen to a shittier organization.

 

Boston and Houston exist

[Spanky99]

Donaldson left tonight's game with another calf injury.

 

Ouch... we know how it feels Twinkies, we know how it feels!!

[King]

Randy Dobnak career ERA by level

R: 2.39

A: 3.14

A+: 0.40

AA: 2.56

AAA: 2.15

MLB: 1.41

 

Pitchers Pitch!

[Jimcanuck]

Another C. Seager tater

 

208 wRC+ for the SSS season

 

Fully healthy and kicking ass