What can we get for JA Happ?

[Jonn]

Can we QC Happ? The whole "can't QC someone twice" thing is always hard to track. I'd rather get a draft pick than a nothing prospect.

 

What does QC mean? Do you mean Qualifying Offer? I don't believe Happ has been offered one. He was traded at the deadline last time he was due to be a free agent. So I believe we could.

[Ray]

Unfortunate Donaldson has been injured all season. Might've been able to package him and Happ together for a really good return. Whether it be the Yankees or the Braves.

[Jonn]

I still think we can have a nice deadline. Of course Happ will be moved. We have 4 relievers to sell. Axford, Clippard, Loup, and Oh. Teams will likely be interested in Granderson as a 4th OF or a platoon bat. And Estrada depending on his health will be likely be moved as well. Not going to get any big name prospects but we can get a handful of lottery tickets for guys that have no future with the team. I will certainly take that.

[BlueRocky]

We’re probably getting two or three second tier guys for Happ.

And maybe one for Oh, Clippard, or Granderson.

And maybe Estrada if he comes back healthy.

Deadline summary will likely be three to five lottery tickets. Similar to what we got in the Pearce for Espinal deal.

 

The Jays simply have terrible luck with the value of their trade chips this season.

 

The real haul for a top 100 prospect will happen when Osuna goes on the market in the winter time.

[Maahfaace]

What does QC mean? Do you mean Qualifying Offer? I don't believe Happ has been offered one. He was traded at the deadline last time he was due to be a free agent. So I believe we could.

 

Doesn't that rule only apply to the same contract? (ie; can only be QO'd once per contract) Or am I mistaken and it applies lifetime to a players career?

[Abomination]

Doesn't that rule only apply to the same contract? (ie; can only be QO'd once per contract) Or am I mistaken and it applies lifetime to a players career?

 

Lifetime

[KevinGregg]

The real haul for a top 100 prospect will happen when Osuna goes on the market in the winter time.

 

I don't think it's at all likely that Osuna is traded. Gibby and Atkins both showed him a lot of support in their comments, without endorsing what he did.

We have control of him through 2021 now with this suspension so it would make way too much sense to keep him.

[Krylian]

We’re probably getting two or three second tier guys for Happ.

And maybe one for Oh, Clippard, or Granderson.

And maybe Estrada if he comes back healthy.

Deadline summary will likely be three to five lottery tickets. Similar to what we got in the Pearce for Espinal deal.

 

The Jays simply have terrible luck with the value of their trade chips this season.

 

The real haul for a top 100 prospect will happen when Osuna goes on the market in the winter time.

 

Osuna will be found guilty and we'll sell him for 25 cents on the dollar to keep in line with our poor value streak.

[Krylian]

Good thing everyone waits until the trade deadline. Wouldn't want to have maximize Happ's value. Should've known he couldn't look like an all Star until the end of July.

[metafour]

Good thing everyone waits until the trade deadline. Wouldn't want to have maximize Happ's value. Should've known he couldn't look like an all Star until the end of July.

 

He looked dominant tonight until a terrible error and a bunch of poorly hit balls landed in the perfect spots to extend at-bats or dribble in for base hits. He then gave up a HR on like the 50th pitch of the inning, which is about what you should expect with any pitcher on the mound.

 

Luckily for us MLB teams do actual scouting, they don't trade precious assets on the premise of looking at box scores. His value isn't going to be shot because Eduardo Nunez hit a seeing-eye single off him.

[King]

Happs value going in the tank with every start

[glory]

“Hey Cashman, when i asked for Frazier last week, I actually meant Medina. Call me back”.

[AdamGreenwood]

I don't think it's at all likely that Osuna is traded. Gibby and Atkins both showed him a lot of support in their comments, without endorsing what he did.

We have control of him through 2021 now with this suspension so it would make way too much sense to keep him.

 

Still think they're gonna trade him. All the positive talk is just posturing so other teams won't realize that the Blue Jays are desperate to virtue signal.

[Krylian]

He looked dominant tonight until a terrible error and a bunch of poorly hit balls landed in the perfect spots to extend at-bats or dribble in for base hits. He then gave up a HR on like the 50th pitch of the inning, which is about what you should expect with any pitcher on the mound.

 

Luckily for us MLB teams do actual scouting, they don't trade precious assets on the premise of looking at box scores. His value isn't going to be shot because Eduardo Nunez hit a seeing-eye single off him.

 

We'll see what the return is then evaluate.

[glory]

I think the Jays will get fair value for Happ but it will be a lot less than people think. In other words, rentals don't go for what they used to, and Happ is clearly not a difference making level talent (good pitcher but that's about it). If we get a couple of B/B- level prospects, that's probably what I'd expect, nothing more.

 

Now, if we were trading Happ and JD last trade deadline, when they both had an additional year of control, we might have been having a different convo.

[Terminator]

I think the Jays will get fair value for Happ but it will be a lot less than people think. In other words, rentals don't go for what they used to, and Happ is clearly not a difference making level talent (good pitcher but that's about it). If we get a couple of B/B- level prospects, that's probably what I'd expect, nothing more.

 

Yeah I agree.

 

Now, if we were trading Happ and JD last trade deadline, when they both had an additional year of control, we might have been having a different convo.

 

If we would have traded JD after his MVP season when he had like 3 years of control left or whatever it was we could have gotten a haul. Should have traded Sanchez after his ERA crown, Stroman before this year, Osuna right before he was arrested, etc.

[glory]

JD and Happ being traded last year would not have been selling high, just a realistic option given how bad the team was last year. Not quite the same as trading JD after he won the MVP.

[Todd]

I believe it's time for the blue jays to trade as many old players as possible.

And start working towards becoming one of the youngest teams in baseball.

But as of right now kept a couple of players.

Like Teoscar Hernandez, Aaron Sanchez, Roberto Osuna, Yandervis Solarte,

Randal Grichuk. This does not include players that have been call up

[Jonn]

I believe it's time for the blue jays to trade as many old players as possible.

And start working towards becoming one of the youngest teams in baseball.

But as of right now kept a couple of players.

Like Teoscar Hernandez, Aaron Sanchez, Roberto Osuna, Yandervis Solarte,

Randal Grichuk. This does not include players that have been call up

 

Thanks for the great insight as always Todd.

[Spanky99]

Thanks for the great insight as always Todd.

 

lol

[Abomination]

Sounds like the A's are looking at being buyers at the deadline, and need SP.

[Ray]

Sounds like the A's are looking at being buyers at the deadline, and need SP.

 

I'd love to get Logan Shore from them.

[Agk47]

Would chance adams from the yanks be a realistic ask?

[xposbrad]

But you would require a good G.M with foresight to do something like that. That's why there's little reason to believe Shatkins will be able to take this team to the next level. This will be a middle of the pack team for a while.

[Vdubfan]

But you would require a good G.M with foresight to do something like that. That's why there's little reason to believe Shatkins will be able to take this team to the next level. This will be a middle of the pack team for a while.

 

lol

[flafson]

Looks like we need to call the Yankees back and beg them to take whatever they were willing to offer before.

[Daniel Labude]

Sounds like the A's are looking at being buyers at the deadline, and need SP.

 

Happ and Donaldson for Puk and Shore

[Krylian]

Looks like we need to call the Yankees back and beg them to take whatever they were willing to offer before.

 

People would rather qualify Happ and take a nothing pick

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

package Donaldson Pillar Happ and Stro

And Give AA in Atlanta a call !!!

 

Sure Good pieces come Back !!!

 

Soroka , Allard ... and 2 or 3 more arms

 

maybe a Burrows Davidson Ynoa !

[flafson]

People would rather qualify Happ and take a nothing pick

 

Happ isn't getting 50M in free agency and at this point if I were him, I'd take a qualifying offer, so I doubt the front office does that.