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GDT: Blue Jays vs. Rays (3/3) 12:37PM - Estrada (8-8 3.68 ERA) vs Cobb (0-0 4.09 ERA)

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BigCecil Vancouver Canadians

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That escalated quickly. Indicative of Estrada's recent starts. The change magic ain't working.

 

Our offense is struggling so badly this seems like a big lead for them.

 

Lets go Jays!

TheHurl Toronto Blue Jays

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Jays need a serious Todd peptalk right about now

 

you willing to give me 40 to 1 on my Jays hitting double digit runs today prediction?

Maahfaace FCL Blue Jays

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What's with TB always having the jays number. Seems like every year they give them fits, have the jays ever won a season series against them?
RealAccountant Dunedin Blue Jays

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What's with TB always having the jays number. Seems like every year they give them fits, have the jays ever won a season series against them?

 

I think it has to do with them having strong right handed pitchers that always shut us out. For the last decade plus we have had unbalanced right handed heavy teams

 

We need to change our composition

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Well obviously, and in our case with our sluggers, it's even better to not sacrifice.

 

I don't know why you're mentioning EE and Bautista as if a bunt causes 3 outs. What you're talking about is the result, not sure if you watched the game but that wasn't the intention of the action. The action was to put the ball in play against the shift for a base knock, the result was a sacrifice but it's not like Saunders squared early to move a runner over.

 

And I posted the stats earlier. His numbers are BAD the second half, and bad overall with runners on base this year. He's setting it up for Edwin to bring the runner in. Eddy with runners in scoring position this year has a 41.8 FlyBall%, 15.2% of those fly balls result in homers. Overall he has a 42.6 FB% with 21.9% of those being homers. So it's close to half the times in that situation he'll hit a flyball. Whether or not it results in a homer (or a hit -- his average on fly balls is .306) the highest chance of outcome is a flyout. Best case on his fly ball he hits a homer doesn't matter if Travis is on 2nd or 3rd 2 runs score instead of 3, but worst case he flies out? Travis scores from third vs. him moving up to 3rd with two outs. Yes I know that Saunders could get on but he has a 28.6% chance of going on base to score on an edwin hit that occurs is 30% but scoring at least one on a sac fly is closer to 42%.

 

Now you add context. Team is struggling badly, and we're playing against the Rays who have absolutely owned us. Do I want a sacrifice? No. Did Saunders have intentions of sacrificing? Doesn't look like it, you don't push a bunt to move a runner over you square early to ensure you make contact. But even then the % aren't as bad as people make it seem. Even our WPA dropped by only 1% you guys are making it seem like we gave up a 10 run inning

BigCecil Vancouver Canadians

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What's with TB always having the jays number. Seems like every year they give them fits, have the jays ever won a season series against them?

 

Last year. And the last home stand of the season 2015 we swept them over 3 games lead by a Sunday walk off by JD with the dome open. What a difference a year makes.

havok24 Dunedin Blue Jays

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It's a good thing they played for 1 run in the first inning.

 

Agreed. Besides, the weak part of the lineup was due up with Saunders, Encarnacion, and Bautista.

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