Terrible David Price Ideas and Rumours Thread

[flafson]

It ain't hard to sound smarter than Hannity and his Fox friends.

 

Haha.

I bet you $1,000 that Sean Hannity will mop the floor with you in a head to head debate match up.

That's without knowing anything about you so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. If I did know you better, there's a good chance I'd be betting much more than $1,000.

[Laika]

Fuuuuuuck

 

This guy's batting average on scoops is like, .100. Don't sweat it.

[King]

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 4m4 minutes agoCooper City, FL

sounds like #Marlins and #Mariners could be aiming to complete a larger deal than simply Ozuna for a starting pitcher.

[King]

nice wrong thread #yolo

[Maahfaace]

This seems strictly on topic:

 

Incarcerated Bob IBN

‏@incarceratedbob

**BREAKING MLB NEWS**

David Price has told close associates he's planning on staying in #Toronto

Jays & Price still hammering out details

 

^ This is a radio host from Chicago that I think had the Lester-Cubs deal a week before anyone else. But he's also a huge piece of s*** that has been wrong dozens of times and generally just seeks attention. Last year he said Cano was staying in NY

 

he also mentioned on his show that Price is giving T.O a discount, so we should expect like 7/110......super solid deal making shapiro strikes!

[flafson]

This guy's batting average on scoops is like, .100. Don't sweat it.

 

Check his Twitter page:

People retweeting scoops that he brought to life, seems very credible to me.

[flafson]

he also mentioned on his show that Price is giving T.O a discount, so we should expect like 7/110......super solid deal making shapiro strikes!

 

Discount is 7/170.

[Laika]

Check his Twitter page:

People retweeting scoops that he brought to life, seems very credible to me.

 

You mean HIM retweeting people talking about the rare things he happened to be right on, possibly by coincidence

[Stangstag]

This seems strictly on topic:

 

Incarcerated Bob IBN

‏@incarceratedbob

**BREAKING MLB NEWS**

David Price has told close associates he's planning on staying in #Toronto

Jays & Price still hammering out details

 

^ This is a radio host from Chicago that I think had the Lester-Cubs deal a week before anyone else. But he's also a huge piece of s*** that has been wrong dozens of times and generally just seeks attention. Last year he said Cano was staying in NY

 

I just don't see it. If you look at anything Shapiro has done/said, you would see he wouldn't give out a giant contract to a 30 year-old pitcher. Especially since their are some good deals to be had for other starters on the market.

 

Only way we sign Price is if he agrees to 20 million a year for like 6 years.

[dineke]

I just don't see it. If you look at anything Shapiro has done/said, you would see he wouldn't give out a giant contract to a 30 year-old pitcher. Especially since their are some good deals to be had for other starters on the market.

 

Only way we sign Price is if he agrees to 20 million a year for like 6 years.

 

What if Rogers over rules him and says f*** it? I'm scared.

[Stangstag]

What if Rogers over rules him and says f*** it? I'm scared.

 

Again, I don't see that happening. No way Rogers forces Shapiro's hand... You don't hire a new president known for squeezing value and then force him to make a non-value move.

[Grant77]

Again, I don't see that happening. No way Rogers forces Shapiro's hand... You don't hire a new president known for squeezing value and then force him to make a non-value move.

 

We see lots of GM's change their ways when given some money. I don't expect that from Shapiro, but it's possible. Then again, we'll have a below average payroll at 130 million, so he still needs to be careful.

[THANOS]

What if Rogers over rules him and says f*** it? I'm scared.

 

I'd only be upset if it meant that we'd be maxed out in our payroll budget for 2016. If Rogers were to increase the budget to, say, 160M (we're at 118M now I think?), I'd be fine with it. This way we could still spend on the bullpen.

 

If our payroll is actually 140M, though, and we have to clear Revere just to squeeze Price into the budget, and will have to scrape together the BP again, I'd be totally against this.

[glory]

It's not going to happen with a $140m payroll. Plus I don't think it's Shapiro's style either. Even though more money can change things (see Friedman in LA), I get the sense that Shapiro will be asked to win on a more modest payroll (less than $140m) going forward rather than a big one.

[burlingtonbandit]

I'd only be upset if it meant that we'd be maxed out in our payroll budget for 2016. If Rogers were to increase the budget to, say, 160M (we're at 118M now I think?), I'd be fine with it. This way we could still spend on the bullpen.

 

If our payroll is actually 140M, though, and we have to clear Revere just to squeeze Price into the budget, and will have to scrape together the BP again, I'd be totally against this.

 

I can't see the Blue Jays spending any money on releivers.

[saskjayfan]

It's not going to happen with a $140m payroll. Plus I don't think it's Shapiro's style either. Even though more money can change things (see Friedman in LA), I get the sense that Shapiro will be asked to win on a more modest payroll (less than $140m) going forward rather than a big one.

 

as long as there isn't a no trade clause, what's the harm in signing him and trading him to the Yankees or sox in 2 or 3 years. You think the yanks or sox would be less inclined to pay big dollars, after Price puts up a stellar season at the age of 31 or 32, than they are now? Look at Greinke, he's going to get a big dollar multi year deal.

[Stangstag]

as long as there isn't a no trade clause, what's the harm in signing him and trading him to the Yankees or sox in 2 or 3 years. You think the yanks or sox would be less inclined to pay big dollars after Price puts up a stellar season at the age of 31 or 32 than they are now? Look at Greinke, he's going to get a bid dollar multi year deal.

 

When was the last time we made a trade with either of those teams?

[saskjayfan]

When was the last time we made a trade with either of those teams?

 

It can be the Phillies, the Dodgers, the Angels. We were able to trade more than 60 million dollars of Vernon wells and get a player of value back in doing so. You don't think there's a team that would take on big dollars of David Price after coming top 5 in CY young voting in his age 32 season?

[burlingtonbandit]

It can be the Phillies, the Dodgers, the Angels. We were able to trade more than 60 million dollars of Vernon wells and get a player of value back in doing so. You don't think there's a team that would take on big dollars of David Price after coming top 5 in CY young voting in his age 32 season?

 

Theres still a ton of risk with that. My guess is his agent will want at least a partial NTC. And if Toronto were to sign him for less money he will want that included for sure.

[L54]

It can be the Phillies, the Dodgers, the Angels. We were able to trade more than 60 million dollars of Vernon wells and get a player of value back in doing so. You don't think there's a team that would take on big dollars of David Price after coming top 5 in CY young voting in his age 32 season?

 

Whenever possible mimick the Miami Marlins.

[baloojayz]

Theres still a ton of risk with that. My guess is his agent will want at least a partial NTC. And if Toronto were to sign him for less money he will want that included for sure.

 

I'm hoping that Price is the kind of guy that won't see a difference between 120M and 150M, see them both as huge paydays, ditch his agent and sign with Toronto. I am prepared to be disappointed.

[Yorkshire Blue Jay]

I would like to think that if we were to sign Price that Shapiro has certain assurances about payroll for the length of the contract given.

 

The casuals helped to neigh on sell out the Skydome every game after he was signed, I would envisage that if he were to be signed then the feelgood factor would remain for some time to come. I think we were 2nd or 3rd in MLB home attendance after the trade deadline with an average of 44,313.

 

Those numbers might be sustainable with an ace like Price or Grienke but I highly doubt it if we sign a good value pitcher that doesn't excite the casuals.

[BTS]

I would like to think that if we were to sign Price that Shapiro has certain assurances about payroll for the length of the contract given.

 

The casuals helped to neigh on sell out the Skydome every game after he was signed, I would envisage that if he were to be signed then the feelgood factor would remain for some time to come. I think we were 2nd or 3rd in MLB home attendance after the trade deadline with an average of 44,313.

 

Those numbers might be sustainable with an ace like Price or Grienke but I highly doubt it if we sign a good value pitcher that doesn't excite the casuals.

 

The issue is that this roster isn't really built to contend long term, and Toronto fans have shown that they won't come out to see a team that's 0.500 or worse. The absolute last thing they need two years from now is a re-tooling team that owes 150$M to a guy they can't move.

[HERPDERP]

We see lots of GM's change their ways when given some money. I don't expect that from Shapiro, but it's possible. Then again, we'll have a below average payroll at 130 million, so he still needs to be careful.

 

aka best GM/Prez in baseball according to some on this board - Friedman

[Frenchsoup]

The issue is that this roster isn't really built to contend long term, and Toronto fans have shown that they won't come out to see a team that's 0.500 or worse. The absolute last thing they need two years from now is a re-tooling team that owes 150$M to a guy they can't move.

 

I wouldn't get to ahead of yourself, a lot of things can happen in 2 years and we still have a lot of good core pieces.

[Sammy225]

aka best GM/Prez in baseball according to some on this board - Friedman

 

I don't think he made any bad moves..... There were made prior to him arriving and he was able to get out of the Kemp contract and still get some good value back. He has Grinke coming off the books likely and if he replaces him with a more cost efficient pitcher which the market is littered with them this year he could have a little money to make improvements mid season.

[BTS]

I wouldn't get to ahead of yourself, a lot of things can happen in 2 years and we still have a lot of good core pieces.

 

Established pieces under control for 2018:

 

Donaldson (31)

Martin (35)

Tulowitzki (33)

Travis

Stroman

 

Two of those guys are on deals that will likely be bad at the time, and one will be entering his last year of control. Maintaining a 90-win roster for the next 3-4 years isn't impossible, but it's going to be very difficult on a <150M payroll. Adding an 8/210 pitching contract to this seems like a very bad idea.

[TBJ12]

Established pieces under control for 2018:

 

Donaldson (31)

Martin (35)

Tulowitzki (33)

Travis

Stroman

 

Two of those guys are on deals that will likely be bad at the time, and one will be entering his last year of control. Maintaining a 90-win roster for the next 3-4 years isn't impossible, but it's going to be very difficult on a <150M payroll. Adding an 8/210 pitching contract to this seems like a very bad idea.

 

How can you include Travis as an established piece but not Pillar or Osuna?

[BTS]

How can you include Travis as an established piece but not Pillar or Osuna?

 

Relying on pen arms and below-average hitting outfielders multiple years into the future is pretty dubious. Health permitting, I think Travis is probably a building block going forward. Osuna and Pillar probably don't move the needle when management sets out a long-term plan.

[Laika]

Relying on pen arms and below-average hitting outfielders multiple years into the future is pretty dubious. Health permitting, I think Travis is probably a building block going forward. Osuna and Pillar probably don't move the needle when management sets out a long-term plan.

 

Why would they like Travis more than Pillar as a core piece? That seems dumb to me and possibly racist