Red Sox (Suarez) vs Blue Jays (Cease): 4/27/26, 7:07pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

Can the Jays take advantage of the hot mess that is the Red Sox?

	WED	THU	FRI	SAT	SUN	TOT
Tyler Rogers	0	0	0	14	11	25
Tommy Nance	24	0	13	0	0	37
Spencer Miles	0	0	28	0	0	28
Mason Fluharty	0	0	13	8	0	21
Louis Varland	0	0	0	30	20	50
Joe Mantiply	23	0	19	0	0	42
Jeff Hoffman	0	0	0	0	24	24
Braydon Fisher	20	0	14	0	19	53

[mphenhef]

No Varland, No Rogers, let's go blowout!

[RA Whiffleball]

Now, now, bullpen is fine, I've been told.

All we need is 5 innings from Cease, and Tommy and the Boys will bring it home!

 

 

[Laika]

38 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

No Varland, No Rogers, let's go blowout!

Rogers is probably a yellow light

He did do three separate three-in-a-rows last year 

[Laika]

Anyway, won't need a save because Suarez is going to serve up 10 runs 

[Spanky__99]

29 minutes ago, RA Whiffleball said:

Now, now, bullpen is fine, I've been told.

All we need is 5 innings from Cease, and Tommy and the Boys will bring it home!

 

 

[RA Whiffleball]

22 minutes ago, Laika said:

Rogers is probably a yellow light

He did do three separate three-in-a-rows last year 

If it's a close game, who gets the 9th?

I'm pencilling in Cease for 5-6 innings. 

Miles could give you 1-2 innings, 1 inning out of Flu, 1 inning out of Rogers, and possibly Hoffman. 

Fisher has pitched in 3 of the last 5.

But knowing JS, he will throw Tommy Nance out there... 

[Brownie19]

Just put him on ignore Spanky.  

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 hour ago, RA Whiffleball said:

Now, now, bullpen is fine, I've been told.

All we need is 5 innings from Cease, and Tommy and the Boys will bring it home!

 

 

It's hilarious how triggered you get over the bullpen. (haha)

According to you the bullpen as it's currently "constituted" (lmao) isn't enough to handle 162

Last years bullpen most innings pitched:

1. Yariel (72.0)

2. Little (68.1)

3. Hoffman (68.0)

4. Flu (52.2)

5. Fisher (48.2)

6. Green (43.2 ) (Hahaha)

 7. Nance (31.2)

8. Lauer (30.2)

 

That bullpen can survive 162 plus win an American League Championship title and this years can't? 

[Stangstag]

26 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

It's hilarious how triggered you get over the bullpen. (haha)

According to you the bullpen as it's currently "constituted" (lmao) isn't enough to handle 162

Last years bullpen most innings pitched:

1. Yariel (72.0)

2. Little (68.1)

3. Hoffman (68.0)

4. Flu (52.2)

5. Fisher (48.2)

6. Green (43.2 ) (Hahaha)

 7. Nance (31.2)

8. Lauer (30.2)

 

That bullpen can survive 162 plus win an American League Championship title and this years can't? 

Yariel and Little with the most innings is wild. 

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

Yariel and Little with the most innings is wild. 

Yariel and Little were carrying our bullpen in the 1st half of last year.  Funny how both are in AAA so fast, which was what your point probably was lol. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

11 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Yariel and Little with the most innings is wild. 

Absolutely wild.

And the third most innings belongs to our recently demoted closer. Both Yariel and Little are still around though, and while their walk rates are still too high in AAA, every other stat is pretty stellar and there is a chance either could return and regain dominant form. Hoffman could also right the ship.

But if they don't we still have full years of Varland, Rogers, Yimi should be back soon and then Flu, Fisher, Nance and Lauer who were all big contributors last year as well.

Then you add in the fact that Atkins will likely add another arm or two mid season when/if needed, worrying abut the state of this bullpen is a fool's folly.

[RA Whiffleball]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

It's hilarious how triggered you get over the bullpen. (haha)

According to you the bullpen as it's currently "constituted" (lmao) isn't enough to handle 162

Last years bullpen most innings pitched:

1. Yariel (72.0)

2. Little (68.1)

3. Hoffman (68.0)

4. Flu (52.2)

5. Fisher (48.2)

6. Green (43.2 ) (Hahaha)

 7. Nance (31.2)

8. Lauer (30.2)

 

That bullpen can survive 162 plus win an American League Championship title and this years can't? 

You really love that trigger comment lol.

Yariel and Little are in Buffalo, Green is gone, Nance is cannon fodder, and we have no idea how Lauer and Hoffman will perform over the long haul.

INCOMING: Miles and Rogers

OUTGOING: Dominguez

We have quality in the BP, but if we get injuries to key guys, and Hoffman can't sort himself out, we're in trouble.

And remember, last year we had Rodriguez pitching in high-leverage, including some save situations, and Hoffman as the regular closer. 

 

 

 

  

[RA Whiffleball]

2 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Just put him on ignore Spanky.  

That'll learn him LOL

[RA Whiffleball]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Absolutely wild.

And the third most innings belongs to our recently demoted closer. Both Yariel and Little are still around though, and while their walk rates are still too high in AAA, every other stat is pretty stellar and there is a chance either could return and regain dominant form. Hoffman could also right the ship.

But if they don't we still have full years of Varland, Rogers, Yimi should be back soon and then Flu, Fisher, Nance and Lauer who were all big contributors last year as well.

Then you add in the fact that Atkins will likely add another arm or two mid season when/if needed, worrying abut the state of this bullpen is a fool's folly.

We worried about the BP in 2021, it wasn't addressed in time and we missed the post-season because of it. 

So yeah I do worry and it's not foolish. We have precedent.

[Eat My Shatkins]

3 minutes ago, RA Whiffleball said:

We worried about the BP in 2021, it wasn't addressed in time and we missed the post-season because of it. 

So yeah I do worry and it's not foolish. We have precedent.

People like you always worry, that's your schtick. That way if it goes off the rails you can have your "I told ya so's" but if it goes great you can enjoy the success and winning with the rest of us.

[Spanky__99]

So, Jays bullpen this season thus far, RELEASE THE HOUNDS... 😅

 

#	Team	TG	W	L	SV	G	GS	IP	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	BABIP	LOB%	GB%	HR/FB	vFA (pi)	ERA	xERA	FIP	xFIP	WAR
1	SDP	0	8	2	12	92	0	109.0	9.08	3.22	0.58	.316	70.5%	53.5%	7.7%	96.0	3.80	2.97	3.18	3.55	1.9
2	TOR	0	7	9	6	105	0	120.0	10.43	3.45	1.05	.327	66.0%	47.9%	15.1%	91.8	4.43	3.41	3.60	3.20	1.4
3	COL	0	5	8	10	85	0	137.0	9.00	3.42	1.12	.292	77.4%	44.2%	11.9%	96.7	3.61	3.77	4.03	3.92	1.4
4	ATL	0	7	3	11	91	0	103.1	8.88	2.96	0.70	.261	71.8%	38.4%	7.0%	95.0	3.14	3.35	3.26	3.86	1.3
5	TEX	0	6	5	7	98	0	100.2	7.96	3.49	0.80	.261	79.4%	39.2%	7.6%	94.2	2.86	3.51	3.89	4.42	1.0
6	BAL	0	6	4	9	96	0	107.2	9.53	3.59	1.34	.259	66.9%	40.6%	14.2%	93.4	4.10	3.89	4.28	3.86	1.0
7	ATH	0	7	5	9	97	0	109.0	8.67	4.54	0.83	.300	73.6%	41.2%	8.7%	95.5	4.05	4.37	4.04	4.37	1.0
8	PHI	0	3	6	5	103	0	109.1	8.89	3.29	0.91	.316	68.7%	43.4%	9.2%	95.7	4.28	3.26	3.78	4.05	1.0
9	PIT	0	8	5	5	98	0	116.1	9.83	4.49	0.85	.281	75.0%	40.0%	9.1%	95.5	3.17	3.83	3.90	4.17	1.0
10	SEA	0	6	6	8	90	0	93.0	8.52	3.10	0.68	.323	77.1%	40.2%	7.2%	95.6	3.19	4.47	3.57	4.09	1.0
11	MIL	0	8	8	8	92	0	110.0	8.92	4.25	0.74	.329	70.0%	46.6%	8.7%	95.4	4.09	4.36	3.68	3.98	0.9
12	NYM	0	5	5	2	81	0	110.2	8.70	3.17	0.89	.302	71.8%	41.7%	10.0%	92.9	3.74	3.92	3.60	3.73	0.8
13	NYY	0	7	4	7	86	0	87.1	8.66	3.40	0.93	.305	74.3%	49.2%	10.6%	94.4	3.92	3.40	3.85	3.91	0.8
14	MIA	0	6	5	8	82	0	95.0	10.52	5.31	0.66	.247	69.7%	39.8%	6.4%	95.6	3.60	3.66	3.71	4.40	0.8
15	LAD	0	5	5	7	84	0	82.1	9.40	3.61	0.87	.290	70.2%	36.2%	8.2%	94.5	4.26	3.93	3.69	4.12	0.7
16	CLE	0	7	5	8	92	0	97.0	10.11	3.34	1.30	.287	67.9%	34.2%	11.3%	94.2	4.55	3.88	4.05	4.02	0.6
17	MIN	0	4	7	5	91	0	94.2	8.18	4.56	0.57	.332	65.2%	39.5%	5.7%	94.6	4.85	4.52	3.94	4.71	0.6
18	BOS	0	2	7	5	87	0	106.2	8.69	3.54	1.27	.265	78.3%	42.7%	13.6%	93.8	3.63	4.86	4.32	3.97	0.4
19	CHW	0	5	8	8	104	0	136.1	7.92	5.55	1.06	.294	68.0%	41.9%	9.8%	94.6	5.15	4.68	4.85	5.04	0.4
20	CIN	0	9	3	10	106	0	108.1	8.89	5.82	0.83	.248	80.0%	36.3%	8.1%	95.3	2.91	4.74	4.48	4.93	0.3
21	SFG	0	3	2	6	90	0	92.0	9.20	4.40	0.88	.258	82.0%	44.7%	9.9%	95.7	2.93	3.52	3.89	4.04	0.3
22	CHC	0	7	5	5	83	0	105.1	7.95	3.16	1.20	.279	74.8%	41.5%	12.3%	94.8	3.76	4.60	4.34	4.17	0.0
23	ARI	0	6	7	9	97	0	104.0	7.96	3.12	1.38	.260	67.2%	46.3%	14.8%	91.8	4.67	4.13	4.54	4.03	-0.1
24	LAA	0	4	8	4	90	0	107.0	8.75	5.55	1.09	.305	63.4%	42.4%	10.8%	94.1	5.38	4.31	4.81	4.84	-0.1
25	DET	0	7	5	7	85	0	95.0	8.43	4.64	1.04	.305	71.8%	45.3%	11.5%	94.9	4.36	4.19	4.40	4.35	-0.1
26	STL	0	6	3	9	102	0	106.1	7.36	4.99	0.76	.288	64.1%	48.6%	8.3%	96.4	5.25	4.97	4.51	4.88	-0.1
27	KCR	0	3	8	8	85	0	92.1	9.06	5.75	1.46	.303	67.7%	41.3%	14.7%	93.9	5.75	4.83	5.27	4.75	-0.6
28	TBR	0	8	4	10	87	0	111.0	7.78	4.38	1.62	.260	66.2%	39.8%	14.0%	94.1	5.27	5.44	5.33	4.84	-0.6
29	HOU	0	3	10	6	94	0	122.2	8.80	5.87	1.83	.306	69.4%	36.5%	15.6%	94.3	6.31	4.73	5.95	5.17	-1.3
30	WSN	0	9	7	6	101	0	138.1	7.16	4.68	1.56	.280	70.1%	46.7%	14.7%	94.0	5.27	5.27	5.53	4.97	-1.8

[Eat My Shatkins]

18 minutes ago, RA Whiffleball said:

You really love that trigger comment lol.

Yariel and Little are in Buffalo, Green is gone, Nance is cannon fodder, and we have no idea how Lauer and Hoffman will perform over the long haul.

INCOMING: Miles and Rogers

OUTGOING: Dominguez

We have quality in the BP, but if we get injuries to key guys, and Hoffman can't sort himself out, we're in trouble.

And remember, last year we had Rodriguez pitching in high-leverage, including some save situations, and Hoffman as the regular closer. 

 

 

 

  

Dude, I know which relievers left, which relievers were here, which relievers are new and I also know what roles they played back then, and what roles they play now.

 

The whole point of me breaking that IP list down for you, (which you completely missed) was to show how last years bullpen was no better than this years, and yet they managed to go all the way to the World Series. 

 

You don't need to run around here freaking out because we have Tommy Nance in our bullpen. Could the bullpen be better? Sure. Is it going to sink us this season? Probably not, unless they face catastrophic injuries, which could happen to any team.

[Laika]

Scherzer to the IL with a broken neck and grade 4 scrotum tear 

Chase Lee up! bullpen reinforcements! 

[Terminator]

The Lauer fanboys must be tickled pink! Their boy is going to survive another turn through the rotation!

• Cease vs. Ranger
• Yesavage vs. Tolle (Berrios starting in Buffalo)
• Lauer v. Bello

 

[Spanky__99]

Just now, Terminator said:

The Lauer fanboys must be tickled pink! Their boy is going to survive another turn through the rotation!

• Cease vs. Ranger
• Yesavage vs. Tolle (Berrios starting in Buffalo)
• Lauer v. Bello

 

Lauer as a likely bulk reliever but yeah, doesn't matter, Bello's good hittin'.

[mphenhef]

32 minutes ago, RA Whiffleball said:

You really love that trigger comment lol.

Yariel and Little are in Buffalo, Green is gone, Nance is cannon fodder, and we have no idea how Lauer and Hoffman will perform over the long haul.

INCOMING: Miles and Rogers

OUTGOING: Dominguez

We have quality in the BP, but if we get injuries to key guys, and Hoffman can't sort himself out, we're in trouble.

And remember, last year we had Rodriguez pitching in high-leverage, including some save situations, and Hoffman as the regular closer. 

 

 

 

  

What bullpen wouldn't be in trouble if they have injuries and ineffectiveness?  San Diego is the only one I can think of.

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Yariel and Little were carrying our bullpen in the 1st half of last year.  Funny how both are in AAA so fast, which was what your point probably was lol. 

Also a great example why sinking too much money into RP is a bad idea

[Brownie19]

10 minutes ago, Laika said:

Scherzer to the IL with a broken neck and grade 4 scrotum tear 

Chase Lee up! bullpen reinforcements! 

Great to see Lee arrived in Buffalo and immediately lost all command.  Whomever the pitching coach is in AAA - he's consistent.

[Spanky__99]

21 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Also a great example why sinking too much money into RP is a bad idea

Players with options are a team's found Gold, lol. They're fine ATM, bro's bait is hooking us up, bigly!

[Spanky__99]

19 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Great to see Lee arrived in Buffalo and immediately lost all command.  Whomever the pitching coach is in AAA - he's consistent.

Players are more selective in AAA, it'd likely explain that. 

[Abomination]

3 hours ago, RA Whiffleball said:

If it's a close game, who gets the 9th?

I'm pencilling in Cease for 5-6 innings. 

Miles could give you 1-2 innings, 1 inning out of Flu, 1 inning out of Rogers, and possibly Hoffman. 

Fisher has pitched in 3 of the last 5.

But knowing JS, he will throw Tommy Nance out there... 

Probably Fluharty. ERA aside, his numbers this year have been really, really good.

[RA Whiffleball]

1 minute ago, Abomination said:

Probably Fluharty. ERA aside, his numbers this year have been really, really good.

Great shout - if you can strike out Ohtani and retire Betts to get a save at Dodger Stadium, why not? 

[RA Whiffleball]

55 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

People like you always worry, that's your schtick. That way if it goes off the rails you can have your "I told ya so's" but if it goes great you can enjoy the success and winning with the rest of us.

It's my business to worry.

[Spanky__99]

3 minutes ago, RA Whiffleball said:

Great shout - if you can strike out Ohtani and retire Betts to get a save at Dodger Stadium, why not? 

Do you think I'm funny, like a clown, sir? 😅