Mark Shapiro - 5 year extension

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[sliderguy35]

MARK SHAPIRO is going to be back in 2030? WTF!?!? lmao unreal!

[Olerud363.354]

4 minutes ago, sliderguy35 said:

MARK SHAPIRO is going to be back in 2030? WTF!?!? lmao unreal!

Are you lol because you think he will leave (to be on a commissioner track) or because you think it is a bad decision?  Or because it is just kind of crazy that he was probably on track to be out until late June when Jays out of nowhere swept the Yankees and didn't look back. 

 

[Orgfiller]

Nice to get the elephant in the room sorted out. Ross Atkins extension news should follow shortly now.

[Orgfiller]

Just now, Olerud363.354 said:

Are you lol because you think he will leave (to be on a commissioner track) or because you think it is a bad decision?  Or because it is just kind of crazy that he was probably on track to be out until late June of last year until Jays out of nowhere swept the Yankees and didn't look back. 

 

23 hours ago, sliderguy35 said:

the title of this thread is just A+, no notes. we need titles like this for all big re-signings, just change the period to an exclamation point if it's a good one

BO BICHETTE is going to be back in 2026? WTF!?!? Lmao unreal!

[L54]

Nice 

[Olerud363.354]

If he keeps the team competitive for the next 5 years and wins a World Series he will be at Gillick's level. 

Hard to compare eras because jobs have changed.  Would people compare Atkins to Gillick?  It seems like Shapiro is more the guy in charge of baseball ops, even if he doesn't do day to day details.

At about the same point GIllick had two AL Easts, no playoff series wins.  Shatkins has 4 playoff appearances, 1 AL East title, and an American League pennant. 

[BTS]

Mark Shapiro is the best thing to happen to this franchise in actual decades. Great to have him stick around. 

[Orgfiller]

Shapiro has spearheaded revitalizing the Rogers Centre into a modern facility that improves both the baseball and casual fan experience. He's helped make our ST complex top of the line, and just in general brought up this organization to be among the most respected in the league, including the signing of several top free agents, and leading the team to its most successful run since the 90s. No brainer decision to continue with him at the helm.

[Olerud363.354]

3 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

 

I see it is a reference to the other thread.  Still curious if he likes Shaprio or not.  He's indicated in other threads that Jays are behind in some pitching development areas, which is interesting.  

If people on a public forum are expressing that the Jays are "behind" then the Jays should know that people "think" they are behind and just disagree.    As an outsider it's still hard to know what to make of this management team.  Last few years it's an 88 win a year team in the same group with maybe Baltimore and Seattle.  Just with very recent and dramatic playoff success.   Which is great and tends to make us think they are all geniuses, but this time last year we thought they were all morons. 

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10 minutes ago, BTS said:

Mark Shapiro is the best thing to happen to this franchise in actual decades. Great to have him stick around. 

100%

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17 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Are you lol because you think he will leave (to be on a commissioner track) or because you think it is a bad decision?  Or because it is just kind of crazy that he was probably on track to be out until late June when Jays out of nowhere swept the Yankees and didn't look back. 

 

I think it's just a joke related to the title of the Ross Atkins thread that was hazardously bumped yesterday :)

[Jays24]

As someone who has supported Shapiro from Day 1, this is well deserved. 

*do not look at my post history

[glory]

26 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Shapiro has spearheaded revitalizing the Rogers Centre into a modern facility that improves both the baseball and casual fan experience. He's helped make our ST complex top of the line, and just in general brought up this organization to be among the most respected in the league, including the signing of several top free agents, and leading the team to its most successful run since the 90s. No brainer decision to continue with him at the helm.

Top 3 MLB payroll, modernized stadium renovations, state of the art Dunedin complex, respected by players/agents/league. It's amazing to see what the Jays look like after 2025. Forget 10 years ago, even telling someone that 3 years ago would have been shocking. 

I've said before, if this org just started developing talent at a better clip, then they'd be one of the top ones in the league because they generally sign well, trade well, and are willing to spend. Hopefully 2025 was just the beginning of that happening (Barger, Yesavage, etc). 

[sliderguy35]

47 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I see it is a reference to the other thread.  Still curious if he likes Shaprio or not.  He's indicated in other threads that Jays are behind in some pitching development areas, which is interesting.  

If people on a public forum are expressing that the Jays are "behind" then the Jays should know that people "think" they are behind and just disagree.    As an outsider it's still hard to know what to make of this management team.  Last few years it's an 88 win a year team in the same group with maybe Baltimore and Seattle.  Just with very recent and dramatic playoff success.   Which is great and tends to make us think they are all geniuses, but this time last year we thought they were all morons. 

i do like shapiro, i think everything this management group has done off the field (the dunedin facilities, the park renovations, improvements to care of players' families) is representative of a world-class organization. 

regarding my skepticism on the pitching side: they don't really do any of the sexy things that we can see on the public side (dramatic usage changes & pitch mix expansion, extreme velocity development) that would get the pitching nerds to geek out over them. that being said, there are enough things they do well on the major league side (primarily, understanding biomechanics to keep guys healthy & prioritizing count leverage) that I think they can be considered middle-of-the-road on the whole. 

it's tough to tell how they're doing from a minor league dev side without access to all the data, but i think it's a good sign that in the last couple of drafts, they've had a good number of pop-up guys that weren't 1st round picks that have increased in value fairly quickly (johnny king / gage stanifer / khal stephen / kendry rojas / tiedemann / etc).

it's a good extension based on the combination of shapiro being good at what he does, as well as the uncertainty that would come from having to move on. we could be doing a whole lot worse

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57 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Shapiro has spearheaded revitalizing the Rogers Centre into a modern facility that improves both the baseball and casual fan experience. He's helped make our ST complex top of the line, and just in general brought up this organization to be among the most respected in the league, including the signing of several top free agents, and leading the team to its most successful run since the 90s. No brainer decision to continue with him at the helm.

This has easily been the most successful run since the 90's and coincidentally (or not) the organization as  whole was essentially stuck in the 90's prior to Shapiro's arrival. 

[Laika]

What can you even criticize this man for at this point? 

All I can think of is that modern ticket/stadium pricing has made the product less accessible. 

On the baseball side, you could criticize the team for not being the class of the league in every facet, but not organization is. You could have pointed to fundamental flaws with developing MLB hitters, or instructing MLB hitters, or developing pitchers or finding relievers, a year ago but the 2025 season kind of answered a lot of those concerns as the farm blossomed and the MLB team did as well. 

I dunno man. We are kind of spoiled. Good organization now, good payroll. Good brand. 

The main way they screw this up is bad contracts. 

[mphenhef]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Are you lol because you think he will leave (to be on a commissioner track) or because you think it is a bad decision?  Or because it is just kind of crazy that he was probably on track to be out until late June when Jays out of nowhere swept the Yankees and didn't look back. 

 

I'd assume he will be allowed to leave early if there is a chance to be commissioner.  I'm not sure there was a chance he wouldn't be back even if not for the success this year.  I think he was hired to upgrade the facilities and generate different streams of revenue, which he had been knocking out of the park.  Atkins, on the other hand, I think was in real danger. 

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1 hour ago, Laika said:

What can you even criticize this man for at this point? ...

I dunno man. We are kind of spoiled. Good organization now, good payroll. Good brand. 

The main way they screw this up is bad contracts. 

I was going to joke about Vladdy's contract but I can't even do that

Yeah, you'd like to think they could have signed him for less money 1-2 years ago, but cementing the future around him and understanding the organization's commitment to winning because of it has definitely made the team a more attractive place to come for free agents and draftees.  

Kudos to ownership and Shapiro for getting the team to this status 

[Omar]

Got to give it up to Shapiro for getting the dollars out of Rogers to support this team.  That alone is quite an accomplishment.

[Spanky__99]

6 hours ago, sliderguy35 said:

MARK SHAPIRO is going to be back in 2030? WTF!?!? lmao unreal!

[Spanky__99]

Very well deserved.

[Spanky__99]

6 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I see it is a reference to the other thread.  Still curious if he likes Shaprio or not.  He's indicated in other threads that Jays are behind in some pitching development areas, which is interesting.  

If people on a public forum are expressing that the Jays are "behind" then the Jays should know that people "think" they are behind and just disagree.    As an outsider it's still hard to know what to make of this management team.  Last few years it's an 88 win a year team in the same group with maybe Baltimore and Seattle.  Just with very recent and dramatic playoff success.   Which is great and tends to make us think they are all geniuses, but this time last year we thought they were all morons. 

I'm pretty damn sure that no-one thinks Shapiro is a moron, Olerud? And if there are, they themselves are pointing in a mirror. 

Jays fans joy!!! O's fans sad... 😓