Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[abola2121]

40 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

So then don't sign Bo?

Signing Bo and a free agent SP and closer very unlikely.

Why? That's a rather modest expectation for this offseason, especially with all the expiring contracts a year from now (payroll shouldn't be an issue). 

[Jimcanuck]

23 minutes ago, abola2121 said:

Why? That's a rather modest expectation for this offseason, especially with all the expiring contracts a year from now (payroll shouldn't be an issue). 

Thats a payroll approaching or exceeding $290M.

Who knows, maybe that's the approved budget.  I think it highly unlikely.

We all knew when Vlad and Bo hit free agency keeping the core together would be financially difficult.  There's a non zero chance the FO has already decided they cant afford Bo, and will roll with a Vlad, Clement, Gimenez, Barger infield.

 

[Abomination]

Sonny Gray might be a decent trade candidate, especially if we could send Yariel back as part of the return to offset some of the salary. Not sure what kind of prospect he'd cost, but there's rumors of him being available. That's the type of transaction I think we'll see to address the starting rotation.

[jmomcc]

3 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

Gotta give up something to get something.

Maybe the Jays have the prospect pieces to get Alcantara.  If so Im all for it

Don't you think the marlins would want more control and a younger player?

With their budget, they need to create their own clements. They can't be trading guys like sandy a for them. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

The Marlins already have two Clements kind of. One of them used to be a Blue Jay.

2+ fWAR middle IF's who get most of their value defensively

[jmomcc]

30 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

The Marlins already have two Clements kind of. One of them used to be a Blue Jay.

2+ fWAR middle IF's who get most of their value defensively

Lopez, one of my favourite prospects. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

3 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Lopez, one of my favourite prospects. 

Yep, but he's no longer a prospect. Full time MLB player now, and very similar to Clement. 

The other one they have similar to Clement is Xavier Edwards.

[jmomcc]

6 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Yep, but he's no longer a prospect. Full time MLB player now, and very similar to Clement. 

The other one they have similar to Clement is Xavier Edwards.

I think lopez having better bat speed does give him a little more upside of all that group, but clement gets to the sweet spot launch angle wise a ton. He really actualizes all he has in games. I do think lopez has the most upside. 

Miami have done pretty good getting guys. Stowers was a great get as well. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Who knows, maybe the Jays do have a limit to their spending, but fancy both Tucker and Bo. And if they can land both maybe they just toss $15 million at Bassitt, $10 million at Scherzer and baby the starters all year while the offense pummels the s*** out of everybody. Keep all the big arms somewhat rested and have them all healthy and clicking late in the season for playoff time. 

Not sure if it was on purpose, but it worked for the Dodgers. Snell, Ohtani and Glasnow hardly pitched last season until later on.

[Spanky__99]

48 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Yep, but he's no longer a prospect. Full time MLB player now, and very similar to Clement. 

The other one they have similar to Clement is Xavier Edwards.

Sanoja as well. Still very young. JimmyC's a bird, lol.

[GoBlue41]

33 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Who knows, maybe the Jays do have a limit to their spending, but fancy both Tucker and Bo. And if they can land both maybe they just toss $15 million at Bassitt, $10 million at Scherzer and baby the starters all year while the offense pummels the s*** out of everybody. Keep all the big arms somewhat rested and have them all healthy and clicking late in the season for playoff time. 

Not sure if it was on purpose, but it worked for the Dodgers. Snell, Ohtani and Glasnow hardly pitched last season until later on.

I will be pretty disappointed if the Jays don't swing for the fences this offseason. I just can't believe there will be much of a "budget" when they just tasted what it's like to get to the World Series and what it's like to have the whole country fired up and getting free agents interested in Toronto's great team culture. The time is now. The time is now to stay on top. Falling back to the pack is not an option. Capture the momentum now and ride the wave! Spend that $$$$

[jmomcc]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Who knows, maybe the Jays do have a limit to their spending, but fancy both Tucker and Bo. And if they can land both maybe they just toss $15 million at Bassitt, $10 million at Scherzer and baby the starters all year while the offense pummels the s*** out of everybody. Keep all the big arms somewhat rested and have them all healthy and clicking late in the season for playoff time. 

Not sure if it was on purpose, but it worked for the Dodgers. Snell, Ohtani and Glasnow hardly pitched last season until later on.

The dodgers have so much pitching though. Like its insane depth. They could afford to have those guys not play all year. 

We need pitching imo in free agency. 

[Stangstag]

4 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Who knows, maybe the Jays do have a limit to their spending, but fancy both Tucker and Bo. And if they can land both maybe they just toss $15 million at Bassitt, $10 million at Scherzer and baby the starters all year while the offense pummels the s*** out of everybody. Keep all the big arms somewhat rested and have them all healthy and clicking late in the season for playoff time. 

Not sure if it was on purpose, but it worked for the Dodgers. Snell, Ohtani and Glasnow hardly pitched last season until later on.

Its definitely on purpose. There was an interview with someone I recall (Kike maybe?) where he said the front office really just wants everyone available for October. They don’t try to rush guys back from injury for regular season games.

[Eat My Shatkins]

3 hours ago, jmomcc said:

The dodgers have so much pitching though. Like its insane depth. They could afford to have those guys not play all year. 

We need pitching imo in free agency. 

If they did what I said in the post you quoted, the Jays would have the all the starters they had last season, except they would have Bieber, Yesavage and Lauer right from day one. They'd also have Francis back probably.

1. Gausman

2. Bieber

3. Yesavage

4. Bassitt

5. Berrios

6. Scherzer

7. Lauer

8. Francis

 

That's pretty insane starting pitching depth in it's own right. Especially with the best defense in baseball playing behind them, and an offense that includes Vladdy, Springer, Bo, Tucker, Kirk, Barger, Varsho and Santander.

[saskjayfan]

9 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

Thats a payroll approaching or exceeding $290M.

Who knows, maybe that's the approved budget.  I think it highly unlikely.

We all knew when Vlad and Bo hit free agency keeping the core together would be financially difficult.  There's a non zero chance the FO has already decided they cant afford Bo, and will roll with a Vlad, Clement, Gimenez, Barger infield.

 

Jays spent way more last offseason than I thought they would coming off a crap year.  The 906K viewers per game in the regular season.  That was double the previous year.  In the playoffs they had close to 100 million viewers for the playoffs.  Sportscenter was doing 1.5 mil instead of the usual 75K. Jays in 30 was doing a million after big games.  The dynamic advertising pricing was in full force in October.  Rogers made a fortune. 

[Jimcanuck]

5 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Sanoja as well. Still very young. JimmyC's a bird, lol.

Im a click bait artist, at least give me that

[BTS]

JimmyC is getting beat up in here, so I'm going to do the honorable thing and concede defeat in the Bellinger wars. 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Jimcanuck said:

Im a click bait artist, at least give me that

[Jimcanuck]

44 minutes ago, BTS said:

JimmyC is getting beat up in here, so I'm going to do the honorable thing and concede defeat in the Bellinger wars. 

I'm undefeated in battle.

Next season will prove me right, yet again.

[Laika]

Here is how horrible that trade idea even was. Clement on left of course. This is even a pessimistic view of Clement.

He can turtle under the guise of "trolling" but we all know it was a serious idea 

 

Year	WAR	$/WAR	Value	Salary	Surplus Value		Year	WAR	$/WAR	Value	Salary	Surplus Value
2026	2.2	$11,000,000.00	$24,200,000.00	$4,300,000.00	$19,900,000.00		2026	2.5	$11,000,000.00	$27,500,000.00	$17,300,000.00	$10,200,000.00
2027	1.7	$11,330,000.00	$19,261,000.00	$6,500,000.00	$12,761,000.00		2027	2	$11,330,000.00	$22,660,000.00	$21,000,000.00	$1,660,000.00
2028	1.2	$11,669,900.00	$14,003,880.00	$10,000,000.00	$4,003,880.00
	5.1		$57,464,880.00	$20,800,000.00	$36,664,880.00					$50,160,000.00	$38,300,000.00	$11,860,000.00

[Jimcanuck]

Alcantara will be back as an ace pitcher in 2026.

[glory]

From Jeff Passan's latest article:

"The Blue Jays, coming off their first World Series berth in more than three decades, have no plans to slow down. They are considered the favorite by other executives to land Tucker."

Passan is the most reputable MLB guy, so this has a bit more credence than if the usual BS artists (Trollosi, Heyman, etc) said it, but still, take it for what it is. 

[Jimcanuck]

39 minutes ago, glory said:

From Jeff Passan's latest article:

"The Blue Jays, coming off their first World Series berth in more than three decades, have no plans to slow down. They are considered the favorite by other executives to land Tucker."

Passan is the most reputable MLB guy, so this has a bit more credence than if the usual BS artists (Trollosi, Heyman, etc) said it, but still, take it for what it is. 

Tucker is definitely a better fit than Bichette

[SeranthonySantander]

38 minutes ago, glory said:

From Jeff Passan's latest article:

"The Blue Jays, coming off their first World Series berth in more than three decades, have no plans to slow down. They are considered the favorite by other executives to land Tucker."

Passan is the most reputable MLB guy, so this has a bit more credence than if the usual BS artists (Trollosi, Heyman, etc) said it, but still, take it for what it is. 

Nice.  So we are getting tucker And Bo

[BTS]

1 hour ago, Jimcanuck said:

I'm undefeated in battle.

Let's not get carried away here  

[jmomcc]

4 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

If they did what I said in the post you quoted, the Jays would have the all the starters they had last season, except they would have Bieber, Yesavage and Lauer right from day one. They'd also have Francis back probably.

1. Gausman

2. Bieber

3. Yesavage

4. Bassitt

5. Berrios

6. Scherzer

7. Lauer

8. Francis

 

That's pretty insane starting pitching depth in it's own right. Especially with the best defense in baseball playing behind them, and an offense that includes Vladdy, Springer, Bo, Tucker, Kirk, Barger, Varsho and Santander.

That's an average to slightly above average rotation imo

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 hour ago, jmomcc said:

That's an average to slightly above average rotation imo

Depends on how good Bieber and Yesavage are.

They both have top of rotation upside.

Either way, it was good enough to win 104 games last year with limited contributions from those two key pieces, and with Berrios clearly pitching hurt as the season went on. He's not that far removed from being a 3+ fWAR pitcher and game 1 playoff starter.

And the insurance would be having likely one of the best offenses and defenses in MLB.

[jmomcc]

8 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Depends on how good Bieber and Yesavage are.

They both have top of rotation upside.

Either way, it was good enough to win 104 games last year with limited contributions from those two key pieces, and with Berrios clearly pitching hurt as the season went on. He's not that far removed from being a 3+ fWAR pitcher and game 1 playoff starter.

And the insurance would be having likely one of the best offenses and defenses in MLB.

I mean we also got fantastic injury luck last year. That might not repeat. 

Anyway, in comparison to the dodgers its not deep. Its not terrible tho. 

[mphenhef]

2 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

I mean we also got fantastic injury luck last year. That might not repeat. 

Anyway, in comparison to the dodgers its not deep. Its not terrible tho. 

Did we?  They have targeted pitchers who they believe can stay healthy in Gausman, Berrios and Bassitt.

Santander was injured or ineffective the bulk of the year. Bo missed a month and Springer, Vlad and Kirk all had IL stints.

Scherzer missed extended time.

Berrios and Bassitt missed some time.  Bowden too although that could have been a Avoid the minors injury.

They lost Sandlin and Yimi for the bulk of the season.

 

I don't know that I would consider that fantastic luck?

[Jimcanuck]

6 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

Did we?  They have targeted pitchers who they believe can stay healthy in Gausman, Berrios and Bassitt.

Santander was injured or ineffective the bulk of the year. Bo missed a month and Springer, Vlad and Kirk all had IL stints.

Scherzer missed extended time.

Berrios and Bassitt missed some time.  Bowden too although that could have been a Avoid the minors injury.

They lost Sandlin and Yimi for the bulk of the season.

 

I don't know that I would consider that fantastic luck?

Yes it is, comparatively