Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Jimcanuck]

58 minutes ago, Jonn said:

No they need to be aiming much higher.

Huh?  Do you know who Sandy Alcantara is?

[Jonn]

I think we all feel Bo will be a pretty good Second Baseman. He has good hands and he will make all those throws with ease. He no longer has to worry about anything deep in the hole or ranging far to his left. It will also result in much less ware and tear on the body which could make him an even better hitter. 

He's never been a butcher in the field. He's just not rangy or overly athletic which makes him not that suited to play Shortstop but he will make all the play hit at him. They were still a very good defensive team with him in the Lineup now they can be an even better one.

[Jonn]

1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said:

Huh?  Do you know who Sandy Alcantara is?

Very aware. Mid Rotation arm. And I like punchies. So give me Cease. Thanks.

[Jimcanuck]

9 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Very aware. Mid Rotation arm. And I like punchies. So give me Cease. Thanks.

Coming back from TJS, Alcantara performed just slightly below Cease in the 2nd half of 2025.  It's very possible he outperforms Cease in 2026.

Thanks.

[Jonn]

1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said:

Coming back from TJS, Alcantara performed just slightly below Cease in the 2nd half of 2025.  It's very possible he outperforms Cease in 2026.

Thanks.

He’s solid. Would prefer to aim higher.

Plus one requires giving up assets for. You can sign Cease or another top end starter just for money. The Marlins have control of him for 2 more years. It’s going to be quite the return they would want.

[Jimcanuck]

14 minutes ago, Jonn said:

He’s solid. Would prefer to aim higher.

Plus one requires giving up assets for. You can sign Cease or another top end starter just for money. The Marlins have control of him for 2 more years. It’s going to be quite the return they would want.

So the Marlins will want prospects.  Nimmala and another say Juan Sanchez probably gets Alcantara.

Now you still have the balance of the money that you would have used for Cease, to spend on upgrades elsewhere.

End result, a far better 2026 Jays team.

[Jonn]

10 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

So the Marlins will want prospects.  Nimmala and another say Juan Sanchez probably gets Alcantara.

Now you still have money that you would have used for Cease, to spend on upgrades elsewhere.

End result, a far better 2026 Jays team.

I really don't think that gets it done. If you view him as a top of the rotation arm with 2 years of control would you make that trade if you are the Marlins? You're looking more at Nimmala + King + potentially a lottery ticket. And if you get into that category of prospects wouldn't you rather go after Skubal if 2026 is the primary goal to have a much better Jays team?

[SeranthonySantander]

if you compare Bo Bichette with other players I think he will basically have a body type like Mo Vaughn.  He’s going to pack on the weight eventually.

Young Mo looks just like Bo.  So yea I think he can play 2nd fine but in 4-5 years he is probably a DH.  

[Laika]

Just sign a Chris Bassitt (or equivalent) then if the team is clicking again trade for the Cease type at the deadline? 

This is the luxury Toronto has after Bieber opted in and Yesavage had his breakout. 1-3 are accounted for. Don't need to be desperate to sign an SP2.

[abola2121]

7 minutes ago, Laika said:

Just sign a Chris Bassitt (or equivalent) then if the team is clicking again trade for the Cease type at the deadline? 

This is the luxury Toronto has after Bieber opted in and Yesavage had his breakout. 1-3 are accounted for. Don't need to be desperate to sign an SP2.

It's not about desperation, it's about making damn sure we win the world series next year.

[SeranthonySantander]

2 minutes ago, abola2121 said:

It's not about desperation, it's about making damn sure we win the world series next year.

Dodgers are still 3.7 to 1 on betting odds.  That’s far from sure.  Technically they would get a World Series every 3.5-4 years based on those odds with their current team 

[Pendleton]

14 minutes ago, Laika said:

Just sign a Chris Bassitt (or equivalent) then if the team is clicking again trade for the Cease type at the deadline? 

This is the luxury Toronto has after Bieber opted in and Yesavage had his breakout. 1-3 are accounted for. Don't need to be desperate to sign an SP2.

Cody Ponce seems like an interesting potential value SP signing. His 2025 KBO season was more impressive than Fedde's 2023 KBO year, prior to Fedde having a 3+ win season in the bigs in 2024. 

 

Above average FB velocity and some mildly decent results before he left, might make him a bit more bankable than your typical arm coming from overseas. 

 

As a bonus, he looks entirely like Kenny Powers from the CF cam

 

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[Omar]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Just sign a Chris Bassitt (or equivalent) then if the team is clicking again trade for the Cease type at the deadline? 

This is the luxury Toronto has after Bieber opted in and Yesavage had his breakout. 1-3 are accounted for. Don't need to be desperate to sign an SP2.

An aging Bassitt (or insert random journeyman 5th starter) and Gausman can end up on the IL early and then we're fcked. Can't take that chance. Have to match the Yankees formidable rotation from day one. Can't afford to wait until the deadline. 

The Jays have to judiciously use Lauer all season and put the Dodgers model of load management into practice for their starters.  Try to lower the total number of ip before the playoffs to maximize peak performance at the optimal time. I think Atkins is going to go hard at a tor starter based on his comments today. 

[BTS]

1 hour ago, Pendleton said:

Cody Ponce seems like an interesting potential value SP signing. His 2025 KBO season was more impressive than Fedde's 2023 KBO year, prior to Fedde having a 3+ win season in the bigs in 2024. 

 

Above average FB velocity and some mildly decent results before he left, might make him a bit more bankable than your typical arm coming from overseas. 

 

As a bonus, he looks entirely like Kenny Powers from the CF cam

 

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Apparently Ponce touches 97-98 now, along with a vastly improved curveball and a good split. He just broke the single-season KBO strikeout record. Intriguing target. 

[John_Havok]

2 hours ago, BTS said:

Apparently Ponce touches 97-98 now, along with a vastly improved curveball and a good split. He just broke the single-season KBO strikeout record. Intriguing target. 

Anyone with the last name of Ponce is absolutely necessary to sign in my books. 

[Pendleton]

7 hours ago, BTS said:

Apparently Ponce touches 97-98 now, along with a vastly improved curveball and a good split. He just broke the single-season KBO strikeout record. Intriguing target. 

 

I've seen contracts projected at 2/18 and 2/22, the latter from MLBTR who said a third year is very possible. So he is not only intriguing based on his pitching, but also still should be rather affordable

[jaysblue]

9 hours ago, Laika said:

Just sign a Chris Bassitt (or equivalent) then if the team is clicking again trade for the Cease type at the deadline? 

This is the luxury Toronto has after Bieber opted in and Yesavage had his breakout. 1-3 are accounted for. Don't need to be desperate to sign an SP2.

This is anticipating that both Gausman and Bieber stay healthy and that Yesavage continues his breakout. If one of Gaus or Bieber land on the IL for an extended period of time or if Yesavage struggles out of the gate, Jays could be in trouble. 

Need to get through the grind of 162 games first before the Postseason. Adding another SP2 wouldn't hurt to be honest. 

[Pendleton]

I'd like to add Josh Naylor's bat to the middle of the lineup. Should be much cheaper than Bo yet easily makes up for his offense.  It's just hard to make the positional fit work, without having DH bats wide open. We would have to move Vlad back to 3B (honestly he seems like a way better defender than when we moved him off but I still don't see it happening) and Ernie to 2B in order to accomodate a big bat at 1B/DH

[Olerud363.354]

36 minutes ago, Pendleton said:

Vlad back to 3B (honestly he seems like a way better defender than when we moved him off but I still don't see it happening)

Seems like they were open to this in the recent past.  I believe they had him play 3rd 100 innings in 2024 and were open to signing Alonso.  

Seems like with his arm he won't be any worse at third then at first.   What I mean is some guys would be worse, if they couldn't make plays because of arm strength.  Not the case with Vlad.  Also interesting that Miquel Cabrera moved back to third at age 29.  Defense scored good enough and won 2 MVPs. 

They probably are thinking this.  I heard a quote that there could even be a way to fit Schwarber in.  My guess is they have a plan for how to accomadate every major free agent.  Probably have a value for a Clemente/Giminez/Bo/Vlad infield, and a Vlad/Giminez/Clement/Naylor infield and so on. 

Also heard they are not married to Giminez at short.  Would even consider Bo as a shortstop or others.  They like him there but are open to lots of plans. 

[jmomcc]

4 hours ago, Pendleton said:

 

I've seen contracts projected at 2/18 and 2/22, the latter from MLBTR who said a third year is very possible. So he is not only intriguing based on his pitching, but also still should be rather affordable

If he really touches 98 as a starter then i'd give him that to be our 5th starter, and you could even have the downside as a reliever with even better velo. 

[Angrioter]

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[mphenhef]

2 minutes ago, Angrioter said:

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It still hurts.  Can we just forget it happened and move on?

[SeranthonySantander]

3 minutes ago, Angrioter said:

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Just now, mphenhef said:

It still hurts.  Can we just forget it happened and move on?

When the dodgers give back the trophy is when we will move on

[Pendleton]

47 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

If he really touches 98 as a starter then i'd give him that to be our 5th starter, and you could even have the downside as a reliever with even better velo. 

 

Yeah unlike the more soft tossing SP's you often see coming from overseas, there should be way more of an RP fallback option. 

 

The stuff looks legit

 

[Brownie19]

15 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Hot take - Bo will be a gold glove finalist if he played at 2B.  People dont realize the difference between SS/2B in terms of difficulty.  

Anecdotal evidence, but my 15 year old son plays SS.  Due to some Daddy Ball issues, he got reps at 2nd base for the first time in years this past season.  I asked him if he liked it and he said he loved playing 2nd because it was SOOO much easier than playing SS.

[Orgfiller]

15 hours ago, Jonn said:

He’s solid. Would prefer to aim higher.

Plus one requires giving up assets for. You can sign Cease or another top end starter just for money. The Marlins have control of him for 2 more years. It’s going to be quite the return they would want.

Alcantara's contract + club option has him paid like what Chris Bassitt is projected to get in free agency. It's not just that you can get Cease for money, the money he's likely to command in FA would potentially prevent the team from making further additions. Alcantara would still give us payroll flexibility. Not that I'm anti signing Cease or anything, but you gotta consider the pros and cons to both guys.

[Orgfiller]

56 minutes ago, Pendleton said:

 

Yeah unlike the more soft tossing SP's you often see coming from overseas, there should be way more of an RP fallback option. 

 

The stuff looks legit

 

At 55 seconds the radar gun shows 155 km/h which translates to 96 mph, on his 100th pitch of the game.

[G-Snarls]

3 hours ago, Pendleton said:

I'd like to add Josh Naylor's bat to the middle of the lineup. Should be much cheaper than Bo yet easily makes up for his offense.  It's just hard to make the positional fit work, without having DH bats wide open. We would have to move Vlad back to 3B (honestly he seems like a way better defender than when we moved him off but I still don't see it happening) and Ernie to 2B in order to accomodate a big bat at 1B/DH

Vladdy has excellent reflexes, an excellent arm, and good defensive instincts. And he's maintained a better fitness level. So yes you could CONSIDER playing him at 3B again but I'd only do that if Bo leaves and you want to add offense via a 1B only player as you say. All things considered probably won't happen. 

[Jonn]

I don't see any reason to take Vladdy off of First Base now. Bring back Bo and let them play 1B and 2B for the next decade.

[hanton]

16 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

if you compare Bo Bichette with other players I think he will basically have a body type like Mo Vaughn.  He’s going to pack on the weight eventually.

Young Mo looks just like Bo.  So yea I think he can play 2nd fine but in 4-5 years he is probably a DH.  

the comp is Corey Seager, he was puffy like Bo, while he was with the LA he lost 30lbs