[ALDS GM2] : Yankees (Fried) vs Blue Jays (Yesavage): 10/05/25, 4:08pm

[ComeTogether]

Listen to Springer.  Ain't over till it's over.  

 

 

[ComeTogether]

 

 

[Masterbather]

2 minutes ago, ComeTogether said:

Listen to Springer.  Ain't over till it's over.  

 

 

Veteran response. Things can always change quickly. As great as these first two games feel, Yankees will be at home now, Jays are obviously not as good on the road. Yankees struggle against fastball/splitter combinations but that's not Bieber's strength. 

Be confident, stay aggressive but keep an even keel.

[Masterbather]

4 minutes ago, ComeTogether said:

 

 

He really did f***ing bomb the hell out of that pitch.

[Terminator]

10 minutes ago, ComeTogether said:

Listen to Springer.  Ain't over till it's over.  

 

 

Yeah the Jays are out for blood. This thing ain’t getting back to TO. 

[Jonn]

13 minutes ago, ComeTogether said:

Listen to Springer.  Ain't over till it's over.  

 

 

I do like this mentality. Just gotta go into New York and focused on winning a ball game

[Hipfan]

17 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

He really did f***ing bomb the hell out of that pitch.

It’s hits like this that are slowly getting me back on the  Vladdy bandwagon. 2022/23 were pretty painful considering the talent he has, but he looks like maybe he’s putting it together and might just live up to his massive contract. 
 

If he keeps playing like this for the rest of the month and the Jays win the championship I won’t even care what happens over the next decade!

[Wake n bake]

37 minutes ago, Hipfan said:

It’s hits like this that are slowly getting me back on the  Vladdy bandwagon. 2022/23 were pretty painful considering the talent he has, but he looks like maybe he’s putting it together and might just live up to his massive contract. 
 

If he keeps playing like this for the rest of the month and the Jays win the championship I won’t even care what happens over the next decade!

I agree if he plays like he did all season and then becomes a beast in the playoffs his contract pays for itself just with that. Yeah I’d love to see this Vladdy all the time but even just a post season beast makes me happy 

[ComeTogether]

 

Papi said it's done.  The ex Yanks said not yet. 

 

 

[Stangstag]

3 hours ago, BatFlip said:

You and me both my man.

 

Thats a quick usage of the Jiri reaction loll

[bronson44]

I'm old and cant figure out how to embed tweets. Found this funny though.

https://x.com/zoidbergererer/status/1974951175972897036?t=MytN6bHXBQMlEkcK__8khQ&s=19

[G-Snarls]

 

 

[G-Snarls]

1 hour ago, ComeTogether said:

 

Papi said it's done.  The ex Yanks said not yet. 

 

 

Lol 

Jeter and ARod.... Of course, saying all the annoying s*** we thought Yankees and their fans would say when they sort of started getting back into the game for an inning and a half 

[ComeTogether]

56 minutes ago, bronson44 said:

I'm old and cant figure out how to embed tweets. Found this funny though.

https://x.com/zoidbergererer/status/1974951175972897036?t=MytN6bHXBQMlEkcK__8khQ&s=19

 

 

[ComeTogether]

 

 

[GoBlue41]

Being up 2-0 feels really good!! Obviously the Jays are in the drivers seat at the moment. The Jays have to step on their throats and not let up on Tuesday. Can't give them any signs of hope or momentum can shift quickly. This is the exact situation that the Jays picked up Bieber for. I really hope he is up to the task!! Go Jays!! 

[Vancouverite]

Im loving being up 2-0

 

But I still dont understand how scherzer is off the roster in fsvour of Bruihl. Scherzer is built for the postseason. Very moronic move

[infinitebook]

23 minutes ago, Vancouverite said:

Im loving being up 2-0

 

But I still dont understand how scherzer is off the roster in fsvour of Bruihl. Scherzer is built for the postseason. Very moronic move

Bruihl got some big outs during that 4 game sweep against the Yankees this year, he is not useless, he just needs to be used in the right situation. He got rocked by Bellinger, but the other 2 hits he gave up were weak contact. 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, ComeTogether said:

 

 

Michael Kay's call was epic, lmao

I can taste his tears.

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[bronson44]

What was bro's slider doing? Maybe it's not that unusual but arm side break seems pretty weird for a slider, no? He struck out Stanton on one I think and there was one earlier to Judge that darted in like crazy.

[mphenhef]

9 hours ago, ComeTogether said:

Listen to Springer.  Ain't over till it's over.  

 

 

I love this attitude from our players.  Vlad too after the game he hyped up in front of the fans, but as soon as he was in the tunnel he was quiet, reserved, saying "One more game, One more game".

 

It reminds of the Kawhi Raptors who even after series wins were very focused on the next series and not being done.

[mphenhef]

13 hours ago, Slade said:

Vlads English is so good, glad to see he finally stopped pretending that he can't speak it. 

He was never pretending he couldn't speak it (that's more Ohtani territory when it works to get out of gambling scandals).  He always said he was using the interpreter because it wasn't his first language and he wanted to make sure he didn't hear or say the wrong thing.  In this age of getting cancelled so quickly, I can't fault anyone for that preference.

[Laika]

1 hour ago, bronson44 said:

What was bro's slider doing? Maybe it's not that unusual but arm side break seems pretty weird for a slider, no? He struck out Stanton on one I think and there was one earlier to Judge that darted in like crazy.

It is a "gyro spin" slider thrown from a weird arm angle

It's funny that it goes to the right. Because it is "gyro" or football spin all the spin really does for horizontal movement is move it one inch more to the left than his fastball. So it goes a few inches to the right still. And down, relative to the fastball. 

I think it is really weird for a slider to do this. I just did a Statcast search for RHP with 50+ pitches (almost everyone, then) and sorted by movement. He is the only one with this much arm side movement on a slider, and there are only a handful who have any arm side movement at all.

The velo separation band helps it play off his other two pitches too. 95, 89, 84. If someone sits splitter he can throw the slider instead and they won't be right on it. 

 

[Brownie19]

This is all I have after watching Yesavage carve up the Yankees in one of the best games every pitched in a Blue Jays uniform...

[Laika]

Even after THAT people might not be excited enough about Yesavage. 

He might have the best pitch in baseball. 

[Laika]

20th overall pick... lmao 

[Brownie19]

14 hours ago, Jonn said:

That was the greatest post game interview I have ever seen.

The Yesavage interview - talking about his parents and the videos of his Dad wiping away the tears during the game absolutely broke me.  I couldn't even being to imagine the emotions that family is going through right now.  Watching their son in front of 44K people, doing things very few pitchers have ever done before.  It's special stuff.  I feel so happy for them all.

[sliderguy35]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

It is a "gyro spin" slider thrown from a weird arm angle

It's funny that it goes to the right. Because it is "gyro" or football spin all the spin really does for horizontal movement is move it one inch more to the left than his fastball. So it goes a few inches to the right still. And down, relative to the fastball. 

I think it is really weird for a slider to do this. I just did a Statcast search for RHP with 50+ pitches (almost everyone, then) and sorted by movement. He is the only one with this much arm side movement on a slider, and there are only a handful who have any arm side movement at all.

The velo separation band helps it play off his other two pitches too. 95, 89, 84. If someone sits splitter he can throw the slider instead and they won't be right on it. 

great post, to add onto this a little bit: yesavage is considered a "pronator" aka his hand stays behind the baseball really well when he throws. when you combine this with the high arm angle, it creates really elite 4 seam vertical movement. 

the downside of this is that with this tendency combined with the arm angle, he physically can't get to the side of the ball to spin it in a way that moves laterally to the glove side (at least not at a workable velocity). he's almost certainly gripping it like a slider and cue-ing it like all other pitchers do with their gyro sliders (throw it like a football is the most common one for reference), but his physical limitations prevent him from getting movement to the glove side.

but like laika said, everything is relative. if like chris bassitt were to throw that arm-side slider shape, it would probably get absolutely annihilated because its almost like a bad mix of his sinker & cutter. but because the slider is playing off of yesavage's elite fastball carry & a splitter that runs away from them, it works for him specifically. 

 

side note: i was at the game yesterday and it was absolutely electric, even up in the bleeders. can't imagine what it would have sounded like down at field level.

yesavage is also making me re-evaluate how heavily I should be weighting outlier approach angles when i'm looking at pitcher effectiveness. the analytics community has known for years that you want to be as flat or as steep as possible when entering the zone, but it really does seem like if you're able to throw to an outlier angle, with just average velocity, pitch shape doesn't really matter. 

[Laika]

1 minute ago, sliderguy35 said:

great post, to add onto this a little bit: yesavage is considered a "pronator" aka his hand stays behind the baseball really well when he throws. when you combine this with the high arm angle, it creates really elite 4 seam vertical movement. 

the downside of this is that with this tendency combined with the arm angle, he physically can't get to the side of the ball to spin it in a way that moves laterally to the glove side (at least not at a workable velocity). he's almost certainly gripping it like a slider and cue-ing it like all other pitchers do with their gyro sliders (throw it like a football is the most common one for reference), but his physical limitations prevent him from getting movement to the glove side.

but like laika said, everything is relative. if like chris bassitt were to throw that arm-side slider shape, it would probably get absolutely annihilated because its almost like a bad mix of his sinker & cutter. but because the slider is playing off of yesavage's elite fastball carry & a splitter that runs away from them, it works for him specifically. 

 

side note: i was at the game yesterday and it was absolutely electric, even up in the bleeders. can't imagine what it would have sounded like down at field level.

yesavage is also making me re-evaluate how heavily I should be weighting outlier approach angles when i'm looking at pitcher effectiveness. the analytics community has known for years that you want to be as flat or as steep as possible when entering the zone, but it really does seem like if you're able to throw to an outlier angle at plus velocity, pitch shape doesn't matter nearly as much. 

I literally can't find a good comp for him or his slider on statcast 

You can sort by arm angle and see a bunch of guys who throw way over the top, but all of them seem to get more standard movement on their sliders, even if it's just a few inches glove side, and they commonly also have cutters, sweepers, curves. 

You can sort by slider movement and most of the guys who throw stuff that all moves to the right are guys who throw from 3/4 or much lower. Devin Williams, Jose Urena, these guys have sub 30 degree arm angles. 

Really hard to find a good comp. You just end up on random imperfect comps like 2024 Zach Plesac or Dauri Moreta or something.