General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Omar]

22 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Morosi never gets any Jays scoops wrong

Morosi has Bo on a plane heading to Toronto right now. 

[Brownie19]

Report: Bichette's knee injury considered 'short term'
https://thescore.com/mlb/news/3346432

Fingers crossed!

[John_Havok]

Roberto Clemente award nominee for the Jays:

José Berríos
Berríos’ humanitarian efforts are inspired by Clemente, a fellow Puerto Rican who was the pitcher’s childhood hero. Berríos launched his first charitable initiative, La Makina Foundation, in 2022. It supports youth in under-resourced communities in Puerto Rico and helps them reach their goals through baseball. Two years later, Berríos expanded that initiative to his new home country of Canada and called it El Dream. To date, El Dream and La Makina have raised more than $4.75 million through fundraising efforts, fan donations and 50/50 raffle sales.

[Laika]

Toronto could clinch a playoff spot as early as tomorrow night, I guess. 

[max silver]

2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Springer is fine as a corner OFer, he still has the speed/glove to make plays.  It's santandar who is the clear downgrade defensively. 

I expect him to be batting 6th/7th upon his return if Bo's back.  At that point, you can debate whether youre better served with him as a pinch hitter since it'll only be a difference of around 2 ABs and take the much better defense from Lukes for most of the game.  

Springer's outfield metrics are UGLY this season. I do suspect some of that could be small sample size weirdness as he's barely played the outfield in recent months but the numbers are hard to completely ignore. I tracked this back in the Statcast defensive search and George has provided an even 0 OAA in his last 107 innings dating back a full 3 months so the lousy numbers are largely a function of the first few months of the season. Checking the first 3 months of the season show George at -7 OAA in 305 innings and this is likely the primary reason that George has barely seen the outfield grass in recent months.

[G-Snarls]

OMG please let Bo be back for the ALDS

[GoBlue41]

21 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

OMG please let Bo be back for the ALDS

From your lips to God's ears!! 

[Jays24]

22 minutes ago, max silver said:

Springer's outfield metrics are UGLY this season. I do suspect some of that could be small sample size weirdness as he's barely played the outfield in recent months but the numbers are hard to completely ignore. I tracked this back in the Statcast defensive search and George has provided an even 0 OAA in his last 107 innings dating back a full 3 months so the lousy numbers are largely a function of the first few months of the season. Checking the first 3 months of the season show George at -7 OAA in 305 innings and this is likely the primary reason that George has barely seen the outfield grass in recent months.

Ya I think the biggest reason he hasn't seen the field is because the Jays havent needed the DH for anyone else while simultaneously being the best path to keep him healthy.  If Santandar was healthy all season, he would have seen the field a lot more.  

It does become problematic when you have BOTH Springer/Santandar in the OF.  The answers to what we'll do is whether Santandar's bat is good enough to want to have both out there.  

[G-Snarls]

I don't hate Lukes Varsho Springer in the OF at times if Santander looks like the best DH option when he's activated 

You need Springer in the lineup every damn day he's been amazing 

[Brownie19]

I have to think Springer is benefiting from being a DH this year.  There may be a downfall in his offensive performance if he plays the field everyday.  Luckily the playoffs aren't that long, so we might be OK if Bo has to DH if/when he returns.

[hanton]

not good

[connorp2]

Good thing I haven’t been around the board bc I would’ve been arguing with Brownie19 on Giminez like Biggio in years past. Listening to small sample sizes where “he’s looking good at the plate”. He’s so bad. Hopefully Bo comes back for playoffs and the bum sits on the bench 

[Brownie19]

19 minutes ago, connorp2 said:

Good thing I haven’t been around the board bc I would’ve been arguing with Brownie19 on Giminez like Biggio in years past. Listening to small sample sizes where “he’s looking good at the plate”. He’s so bad. Hopefully Bo comes back for playoffs and the bum sits on the bench 

Well then good for all of us that you haven't been around 🤣

Gimenez has been awful with the bat.  I think some of the underlying numbers suggest he's not quite this bad, but it's certainly concerning, given his contract.

But my gosh is the defense incredible.  So fun to watch.  With Bo out, he's going to be very important to the team and I hope his defense at SS is even more valuable than it was at 2nd.  It doesn't make up for the terrible bat, but it certainly helps.

To be at 1.0 WAR right now in 91 games with a 69 wRC+ is crazy.

[GoBlue41]

Assuming that the Jays make the playoffs at a 1 or 2 seed, is there a particular matchup that the Jays should want in that second round matchup? If the Jays are the 1st seed, it's looking like a matchup vs. the Yankees/Red Sox  4vs.5 winner. Is that considered a better matchup than the Mariners/Astros winner?? Just curious what everyone's thoughts are. I'm conflicted on what to be hoping for other than winning the East and Bo coming back. 

[Masterbather]

Berrios cannot be on the postseason roster. 

I'm sorry but we've seen enough. He doesn't have put away stuff at this point. His feelings will have to deal with it.

Top teams are going to eat him alive.

He's not even a viable long guy, I'd rather have Lauer, especially as a lefty.

 

 

[G-Snarls]

11 hours ago, Laika said:

There is also a part of Bo the Human Commodity that thinks if he comes back and is a playoff hero, it will make a significant difference for his appeal in free agency. 

There is truth to this. Whether it makes sense or not, some GMs/owners care about this stuff.

It certainly seemed to part of the Springer appear

Post season przinz

[G-Snarls]

2 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Berrios cannot be on the postseason roster. 

I'm sorry but we've seen enough. He doesn't have put away stuff at this point. His feelings will have to deal with it.

Top teams are going to eat him alive.

He's not even a viable long guy, I'd rather have Lauer, especially as a lefty.

 

 

Agree

I like the guy but he's the first one I drop

[jmomcc]

8 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

I have to think Springer is benefiting from being a DH this year.  There may be a downfall in his offensive performance if he plays the field everyday.  Luckily the playoffs aren't that long, so we might be OK if Bo has to DH if/when he returns.

Yea, and also just the decrease in injury risk as well. 

[jmomcc]

I think its time for closer by committee. Or just go by leverage and batting order. 

[Brownie19]

10 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Berrios cannot be on the postseason roster. 

I'm sorry but we've seen enough. He doesn't have put away stuff at this point. His feelings will have to deal with it.

Top teams are going to eat him alive.

He's not even a viable long guy, I'd rather have Lauer, especially as a lefty.

 

 

Has anyone given you the impression he will be on the playoff roster and/or in the rotation?  He's the 5th starter and its pretty rare for teams to carry their 5th starter in the playoffs.  I don't think there's any reason to worry that you'll see him on the playoff roster.

[glory]

The Jays treat veterans with a lot of respect but I don’t think we have to worry about Berrios making the playoff roster. The org seems very aware of what he is and where he fits in the current depth chart. 

[mphenhef]

31 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Has anyone given you the impression he will be on the playoff roster and/or in the rotation?  He's the 5th starter and its pretty rare for teams to carry their 5th starter in the playoffs.  I don't think there's any reason to worry that you'll see him on the playoff roster.

The irony that the guy who everyone was pissed was pulled after two innings two long years ago is now no longer going to make the post season roster is something else.

[Laika]

Berrios got 0 strikeouts last night, against a team that had 18 the night before. 

13 pitchers on a playoff roster.

Gausman, Bieber = SP

Yesavage, Scherzer, Bassitt = on the roster as SP or long RP

Hoffman, Fisher, Little, Dominguez, Varland, YRod, Nance = RP

One more arm fits. Do you want Lauer, Berrios, Fluharty, or Borucki? 

Fluharty might be the best fit. 

I see an argument for Lauer since he's a lefty. 

Don't see any real argument for Berrios... 

 

[mphenhef]

12 minutes ago, glory said:

The Jays treat veterans with a lot of respect but I don’t think we have to worry about Berrios making the playoff roster. The org seems very aware of what he is and where he fits in the current depth chart. 

We need a dead cat bounce back year next year from him so he opts out of the final two years of that contract.

[Omar]

2 minutes ago, Laika said:

Berrios got 0 strikeouts last night, against a team that had 18 the night before. 

13 pitchers on a playoff roster.

Gausman, Bieber = SP

Yesavage, Scherzer, Bassitt = on the roster as SP or long RP

Hoffman, Fisher, Little, Dominguez, Varland, YRod, Nance = RP

One more arm fits. Do you want Lauer, Berrios, Fluharty, or Borucki? 

Fluharty might be the best fit. 

I see an argument for Lauer since he's a lefty. 

Don't see any real argument for Berrios... 

 

Fluharty gets the nod if for nothing else but that he struck out Ohtani with the bases loaded earlier this season. 

[John_Havok]

34 minutes ago, Laika said:

Berrios got 0 strikeouts last night, against a team that had 18 the night before. 

13 pitchers on a playoff roster.

Gausman, Bieber = SP

Yesavage, Scherzer, Bassitt = on the roster as SP or long RP

Hoffman, Fisher, Little, Dominguez, Varland, YRod, Nance = RP

One more arm fits. Do you want Lauer, Berrios, Fluharty, or Borucki? 

Fluharty might be the best fit. 

I see an argument for Lauer since he's a lefty. 

Don't see any real argument for Berrios... 

 

Borucki was DFA, he wont be an option likely. 

Feels like Fluharty should get the nod out of that group if we assume Bassitt is there for nothing other than loooooong relief to save the pen if a SP gets lit up in the first couple of innings. 

Berrios is superfluous when you only need 3 starters. But they may need to change that if they get through to the ALCS. 

[L54]

11 hours ago, GoBlue41 said:

Assuming that the Jays make the playoffs at a 1 or 2 seed, is there a particular matchup that the Jays should want in that second round matchup? If the Jays are the 1st seed, it's looking like a matchup vs. the Yankees/Red Sox  4vs.5 winner. Is that considered a better matchup than the Mariners/Astros winner?? Just curious what everyone's thoughts are. I'm conflicted on what to be hoping for other than winning the East and Bo coming back. 

I’d rather see either of NYY or BOS over the AL West especially Seattle. I think they present the biggest challenge to the Jays in the AL

[Stangstag]

18 minutes ago, L54 said:

I’d rather see either of NYY or BOS over the AL West especially Seattle. I think they present the biggest challenge to the Jays in the AL

Getting bounced in the first (or ALDS) round by Seattle again would fkn suck

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Berrios got 0 strikeouts last night, against a team that had 18 the night before. 

13 pitchers on a playoff roster.

Gausman, Bieber = SP

Yesavage, Scherzer, Bassitt = on the roster as SP or long RP

Hoffman, Fisher, Little, Dominguez, Varland, YRod, Nance = RP

One more arm fits. Do you want Lauer, Berrios, Fluharty, or Borucki? 

Fluharty might be the best fit. 

I see an argument for Lauer since he's a lefty. 

Don't see any real argument for Berrios... 

 

Could go with a 5-man bench instead.

Everyone will be well rested heading into the Divisional Series.

[Terminator]

The AL is wide open and there isn't a whole lot of distance between the various teams.

Among the possible ALDS opponents, the Yankees and Seattle are the most formidable. I'd probably put the Yankees slightly ahead of them. 

Red Sox are probably next best.

Astros are limping into the postseason.