General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[John_Havok]

Its official now that he has enough throws to qualify...Barger's arm is the 100th percentile in arm strength in RF averaging 97.6 mph.

4 more throws from 3b and he will qualify for the 2b/SS/3b leader board too

[Doubleplay21]

Fluharty after a good start is very close to be sent to Buffalo. He now cannot be trusted in late innings

[jaysblue]

1 hour ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Fluharty after a good start is very close to be sent to Buffalo. He now cannot be trusted in late innings

Yeah wouldn't surprise me if they option Fluharty once Yimi is activated instead of DFA'ing Green. Fluharty has options and it might be a good idea to go back down to gain some confidence again. 

[jaysblue]

14 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

The report literally said he may be ready to return right after the all-star break...why would you just write-off the season?  There's got to be some hope he can return and be productive down the stretch.

I'm a rationalist.

As much as I would love Santander to give us two months of crushing baseballs, that reality is unlikely. He hasn't been able to resume swinging yet, and he might not be completely 100% even when he returns. Seems like he's banged up and this shoulder injury could be something that lingers all season, even when he gets back.

At the end of the day, his numbers by the end of the season won't be anywhere close to his 2023 and 2024 season, so yeah this season in terms of his overall contract is a write-off vs, what was expected.

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

Yeah wouldn't surprise me if they option Fluharty once Yimi is activated instead of DFA'ing Green. Fluharty has options and it might be a good idea to go back down to gain some confidence again. 

This is what I expect to happen.  Even if it leaves us with only 1 lefty in the pen for awhile.

[Laika]

Personally I'm not optioning Flu. His peripherals are fine and Little as the only lefty would be annoying to manage around since he's also a very good general setup man 

[Spanky__99]

Latest News

Jun 30, 2025 10:18 PM EDT

Manager John Schneider said after Monday's 5-4 win over the Yankees that Bichette (knee) is day-to-day and isn't expected to undergo any additional testing, Keegan Matheson of MLB.com reports.

Analysis

Bichette stepped on a baseball in pregame warmups and was scratched from the lineup after initially being penciled in as the Blue Jays' leadoff hitter for Monday's contest. Ernie Clement moved over to shortstop and hit leadoff in his absence. Bichette should have a chance to play Tuesday.

[John_Havok]

11 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Latest News

Jun 30, 2025 10:18 PM EDT

Manager John Schneider said after Monday's 5-4 win over the Yankees that Bichette (knee) is day-to-day and isn't expected to undergo any additional testing, Keegan Matheson of MLB.com reports.

Analysis

Bichette stepped on a baseball in pregame warmups and was scratched from the lineup after initially being penciled in as the Blue Jays' leadoff hitter for Monday's contest. Ernie Clement moved over to shortstop and hit leadoff in his absence. Bichette should have a chance to play Tuesday.

Just quoting so people can actually see it. 

[Big_Walleye]

Leo Jimenez called up and Clase optioned.  This can't be good news for Bichette.

[keggy]

3 hours ago, Laika said:

Personally I'm not optioning Flu. His peripherals are fine and Little as the only lefty would be annoying to manage around since he's also a very good general setup man 

Bruihl is first down. Assuming Atkins hasn't given up on Green I would honestly send down Sandlin. He's walking like 6 per 9 IP. And Little's arm might literally fall off if Schneider uses him as the only lefty.

[gruber9292]

6 hours ago, jaysblue said:

I'm a rationalist.

As much as I would love Santander to give us two months of crushing baseballs, that reality is unlikely. He hasn't been able to resume swinging yet, and he might not be completely 100% even when he returns. Seems like he's banged up and this shoulder injury could be something that lingers all season, even when he gets back.

At the end of the day, his numbers by the end of the season won't be anywhere close to his 2023 and 2024 season, so yeah this season in terms of his overall contract is a write-off vs, what was expected.

Buying at the all time high is always risky but this one looks like it's forming into a really bad signing. Good thing a lot of the other lesser options are performing or we'd be cooked. If a high end SP is added at the deadline, things are going to get interesting. Management should write off Satandar for the season by keeping him on the IL. He'd ruin the flow of the offence batting in the middle of the line up. 

[gruber9292]

3 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Just quoting so people can actually see it. 

If only we could actually see it 

[max silver]

42 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

Buying at the all time high is always risky but this one looks like it's forming into a really bad signing. Good thing a lot of the other lesser options are performing or we'd be cooked. If a high end SP is added at the deadline, things are going to get interesting. Management should write off Satandar for the season by keeping him on the IL. He'd ruin the flow of the offence batting in the middle of the line up. 

I disagree completely. A healthy and productive Santander would be a massive addition to the middle of the lineup. I can think of few better ways to complete ruin the relationship with a player than to attempt to force him to remain on the injured list after he's healthy and ready to return. 

[John_Havok]

7 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Manager John Schneider said after Monday's 5-4 win over the Yankees that Bichette (knee) is day-to-day and isn't expected to undergo any additional testing, Keegan Matheson of MLB.com reports.

Analysis

Bichette stepped on a baseball in pregame warmups and was scratched from the lineup after initially being penciled in as the Blue Jays' leadoff hitter for Monday's contest. Ernie Clement moved over to shortstop and hit leadoff in his absence. Bichette should have a chance to play Tuesday.

 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, John_Havok said:

 

I don't know, I see it no problem, lol.

Manager John Schneider said after Monday's 5-4 win over the Yankees that Bichette (knee) is...Jun 30, 2025

Manager John Schneider said after Monday's 5-4 win over the Yankees that Bichette (knee) is day-to-day and isn't expected to undergo any additional testing, Keegan Matheson of MLB.com reports.

Analysis:Bichette stepped on a baseball in pregame warmups and was scratched from the lineup after initially being penciled in as the Blue Jays' leadoff hitter for Monday's contest. Ernie Clement moved over to shortstop and hit leadoff in his absence. Bichette should have a chance to play Tuesday.

Edited July 2, 2025 by Spanky__99
WTF???

[infinitebook]

Schoenfield wants us to go after Lugo.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45619162/mlb-2025-deadline-one-player-trade-away-july-all-30-teams

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The Blue Jays are currently in the second wild-card spot, despite a scuffling rotation that ranks 26th in ERA. They did just get Max Scherzer back, but there's no way of knowing what he'll bring, plus Chris Bassitt and Scherzer will be free agents -- so they'll be looking for pitching help in the offseason anyway. Lugo's contract is a more attractive option than gambling on a high-level free agent, even if it costs a team some good prospects.

 

[glory]

Lugo has a $15M player option for 2026, which he may decline depending on how the rest of his season goes. 

If the Jays want someone with team control, then the Marlins are probably their best hope. Sandy at (what should be) a discount, or Cabrera for some good prospects. Otherwise probably better off in the rental market. 

[Laika]

Lugo doesn't move the needle much. He's solid but more of the same with Gausman - Berrios - Bassitt - Schezer; more of a "get there" guy than a "World Series" guy. Fangraphs says his 2026 is a player option anyway so he might be a rental. 

[Terminator]

So Atkins said he is looking for a right handed bat.

What position should that bat be? Probably more OF than INF, right?

[keggy]

28 minutes ago, Terminator said:

So Atkins said he is looking for a right handed bat.

What position should that bat be? Probably more OF than INF, right?

Definitely outfield. Guys like Lukes, Roden, Clase, Varsho get neutered by lefty pitching and our only answer is Davis Schneider and Myles Straw. Even a one dimensional lefty masher like Refsnyder would be a big upgrade. It also pushes Straw more towards a defensive replacement/pinch running role which he is best suited for.

[John_Havok]

2 hours ago, keggy said:

Definitely outfield. Guys like Lukes, Roden, Clase, Varsho get neutered by lefty pitching and our only answer is Davis Schneider and Myles Straw. Even a one dimensional lefty masher like Refsnyder would be a big upgrade. It also pushes Straw more towards a defensive replacement/pinch running role which he is best suited for.

Davis Schneider is really wanting that RH bench bat role right now

[Vancouverite]

On 7/1/2025 at 11:54 AM, gruber9292 said:

Buying at the all time high is always risky but this one looks like it's forming into a really bad signing. Good thing a lot of the other lesser options are performing or we'd be cooked. If a high end SP is added at the deadline, things are going to get interesting. Management should write off Satandar for the season by keeping him on the IL. He'd ruin the flow of the offence batting in the middle of the line up. 

Just ease him in and put him in 5-7 hole

He might have had a tough season to date but baseball is funny. Anything can happen and his teammates will get a moral boost .

 

Can't until him and Varsho are back

[infinitebook]

11 hours ago, Laika said:

Lugo doesn't move the needle much. He's solid but more of the same with Gausman - Berrios - Bassitt - Schezer; more of a "get there" guy than a "World Series" guy. Fangraphs says his 2026 is a player option anyway so he might be a rental. 

Ah sloppy journalism. The whole basis of his reasoning was that the Jays would have him locked up for 2026 lol

[Perfect Game]

Per MLBTR Jays calling up Lazaro Estrada.

The Blue Jays are set to select the contract of right-hander Lazaro Estrada today, according to a report from Yordano Carmona of Pelota Cubana USA. Toronto’s 40-man roster is full, so a corresponding move will be necessary to make room for Estrada on both the active and 40-man rosters. Should Estrada make an appearance while on the roster, it would be his big league debut.

[John_Havok]

28 minutes ago, Perfect Game said:

Per MLBTR Jays calling up Lazaro Estrada.

The Blue Jays are set to select the contract of right-hander Lazaro Estrada today, according to a report from Yordano Carmona of Pelota Cubana USA. Toronto’s 40-man roster is full, so a corresponding move will be necessary to make room for Estrada on both the active and 40-man rosters. Should Estrada make an appearance while on the roster, it would be his big league debut.

Gotta think he's just coming up for bullpen help/long man. Pen is pretty much decimated right now. 

Could just transfer Santander to the 60 day IL to free up a 40 man spot, send down Bruihl for the 26 man

[Governator]

On 1/31/2025 at 2:34 AM, Governator said:

Too early for predictions?

Bichette bounces back in contract year, takes over leadoff spot by mid June. Springer gets pushed down to 8th in line up as this forum calls for him to be DFA'd by July 15th.

 

 

[jaysblue]

Seems like it's a deep market for relievers. Guys like Clase, Finnegan, Bautista, & Bednar could all be moved to contenders. Those are just the closers who could moved. Stock piling on high K% relievers might be the way to go, since the SP options aren't really that sexy and aren't an improvement over what the Jays already have. 

[jaysblue]

If the Jays were to target a pitcher, Michael Soroka would be interesting. He's pitched better as of late and is an expiring contract, so the Nats would move him. Could use him as a starter if someone goes down or even a multiple inning reliever. He was lights-out last season out of the bullpen and he could definitely be a weapon in the Postseason if utilized in that kind of role. 

[John_Havok]

4 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

If the Jays were to target a pitcher, Michael Soroka would be interesting. He's pitched better as of late and is an expiring contract, so the Nats would move him. Could use him as a starter if someone goes down or even a multiple inning reliever. He was lights-out last season out of the bullpen and he could definitely be a weapon in the Postseason if utilized in that kind of role. 

And a good Canadian kid too, thats extra points.

[max silver]

2 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Gotta think he's just coming up for bullpen help/long man. Pen is pretty much decimated right now. 

Could just transfer Santander to the 60 day IL to free up a 40 man spot, send down Bruihl for the 26 man

It was mentioned on a recent broadcast that someone in the pen was battling through some sort of injury issue so an IL stint could be possible.