2024 Trade Deadline

[BTS]

That's light, yuck.

 

I don't even think he'd return that TBH. 83 wRC+ the last calendar year. I don't think teams will be willing to pay for him as anywhere close to a 4-win player. He's completely nuked his value, and might actually just suck now.

[Spanky99]

I don't even think he'd return that TBH. 83 wRC+ the last calendar year. I don't think teams will be willing to pay for him as anywhere close to a 4-win player. He's completely nuked his value, and might actually just suck now.

 

Anything's possible I guess, but I wouldn't sell if that's the return. Need him to bounce back like yesterday.

[hanton]

Dalton Rushing or River Ryan plus a low minors lotto ticket like Joendry Vargas or Edouardo Quintero would be an excellent return on Bo given that he's nuked his trade value this year.

 

I doubt they give up Rushing and they probably don't have to because their farm is so deep

[hanton]

Morosi was on The Fan Pregame tonight suggested a blockbuster between Dodgers/Jays. Bichetti and Bassist. Bring back top prospect and young player already in MLB. Dodgers desperate for pitching he said.

 

that would definitely bring back alot, if he mentioned MLB ready players that has to be one of Outman/Lux/Vargas/Pages - my guess is either Outman/Vargas/Lux+2/3 prospects. Outman might not work since he's a CF

[Brownie19]

that would definitely bring back alot, if he mentioned MLB ready players that has to be one of Outman/Lux/Vargas/Pages - my guess is either Outman/Vargas/Lux+2/3 prospects. Outman might not work since he's a CF

 

Outman might not work because he sucks.

[L54]

I bet teams are calling about Bassitt. Say whatever you want about him but he hasn’t had an ERA over 6 since 2016 and there aren’t a ton of starters available

 

7 game series Chris Bassitt is absolutely starting for the Dodgers, Orioles, Astros, Cardinals plus just the eating the innings through August and September

[hanton]

I bet teams are calling about Bassitt. Say whatever you want about him but he hasn’t had an ERA over 6 since 2016 and there aren’t a ton of starters available

 

7 game series Chris Bassitt is absolutely starting for the Dodgers, Orioles, Astros, Cardinals plus just the eating the innings through August and September

 

Easily....Kikuchi might even have a shot at starting in a the post-season

[L54]

Easily....Kikuchi might even have a shot at starting in a the post-season

 

Oh ya Kooch is definitely starting for those teams too

 

Kikuchi

Bassitt

Richards

Garcia

 

Should all be sold

[Joltin Joe]

I bet teams are calling about Bassitt. Say whatever you want about him but he hasn’t had an ERA over 6 since 2016 and there aren’t a ton of starters available

 

7 game series Chris Bassitt is absolutely starting for the Dodgers, Orioles, Astros, Cardinals plus just the eating the innings through August and September

Morosi said Dodgers are desperate for starting pitching due to injuries. Now is time to extract good value.

 

Fewer teams selling this year than usual. Jays could get Good return value for our pitching. He said Cubs will soon become sellers though. He said Jays and Cubs the two biggest disappointments this season.

Edited July 17, 2024 by Joltin Joe

[jaysblue]

I bet teams are calling about Bassitt. Say whatever you want about him but he hasn’t had an ERA over 6 since 2016 and there aren’t a ton of starters available

 

7 game series Chris Bassitt is absolutely starting for the Dodgers, Orioles, Astros, Cardinals plus just the eating the innings through August and September

 

Plus he has an extra year of control at a reasonable cost.

 

Bassitt is an arm that could help one of those teams in the Postseason and even during a 162 game season given his durability.

[jaysblue]

Got some insider info from a friend and its reliable: Jays only going to trade players on expiring contracts at the deadline. So Vlad and Bo won't be traded at the deadline, and that makes it very unlikely Gausman or Bassitt are moved.

[Brownie19]

Got some insider info from a friend and its reliable: Jays only going to trade players on expiring contracts at the deadline. So Vlad and Bo won't be traded at the deadline, and that makes it very unlikely Gausman or Bassitt are moved.

 

I think there were reports confirming this a few weeks ago.

[glory]

No chance the Jays trade Bassitt. They are going to try to contend in 2025, for better or worse.

[Jimcanuck]

No chance the Jays trade Bassitt. They are going to try to contend in 2025, for better or worse.

 

Trading Bassitt / Kikuchi to contenders that need pitching can immediately make the Jays better in 2025 (e.g. Vargas from the Dodgers). Then just sign FA pitchers to replace them.

 

Bassitt in particular is getting close to the cliff.

[Stangstag]

Trading Bassitt / Kikuchi to contenders that need pitching can immediately make the Jays better in 2025 (e.g. Vargas from the Dodgers). Then just sign FA pitchers to replace them.

 

Bassitt in particular is getting close to the cliff.

 

I agree, probably the best time to trade Bassitt. Don't think his value will be higher. He should be easily replaced in free agency, there's always deals like Gray, Wacha, Lugo, etc. to be had

[Laika]

Got some insider info from a friend and its reliable: Jays only going to trade players on expiring contracts at the deadline. So Vlad and Bo won't be traded at the deadline, and that makes it very unlikely Gausman or Bassitt are moved.

 

Executives keep the more controversial decisions close to the vest.

 

If guys like Gausman or Bo are getting dealt, nobody would really know of those possibilities outside of a small circle. So if it happens it will probably be somewhat sudden, and unexpected.

 

I would not expect tons of rumours. Those deals would be out of nowhere things.

 

No reason for any lower level employees to have any clue right now.

[connorp]

Executives keep the more controversial decisions close to the vest.

 

If guys like Gausman or Bo are getting dealt, nobody would really know of those possibilities outside of a small circle. So if it happens it will probably be somewhat sudden, and unexpected.

 

I would not expect tons of rumours. Those deals would be out of nowhere things.

 

No reason for any lower level employees to have any clue right now.

 

Yeah. I’d also imagine there’s no such thing as a definitive. It’s like a GM says “I’m not trading such and such”… ok, but I’ll give you an everything you want, plus some. So they could very well be putting it out there Bo isn’t getting dealt, save the spam calls. That’s what I’d do like a fantasy league. Don’t waste my time with lowball offers.

[Laika]

Yeah. I’d also imagine there’s no such thing as a definitive. It’s like a GM says “I’m not trading such and such”… ok, but I’ll give you an everything you want, plus some. So they could very well be putting it out there Bo isn’t getting dealt, save the spam calls. That’s what I’d do like a fantasy league. Don’t waste my time with lowball offers.

 

Yeah it's posturing

 

If the Dodgers call and actually offer a deep package for Bo, whoever the f*** is making the decisions in Toronto is going to consider it

 

And we know they would love to reset the luxury tax. Dealing Bassitt might be the easiest way of doing that.

[glory]

Trading Bassitt / Kikuchi to contenders that need pitching can immediately make the Jays better in 2025 (e.g. Vargas from the Dodgers). Then just sign FA pitchers to replace them.

 

Bassitt in particular is getting close to the cliff.

 

Agreed, I think selling high on Bassitt would be a great idea, but the Jays (under Shapiro at least) do not operate like that. It’s one of the reasons they need to invest so heavily in free agency in the first place.

[hanton]

I agree, probably the best time to trade Bassitt. Don't think his value will be higher. He should be easily replaced in free agency, there's always deals like Gray, Wacha, Lugo, etc. to be had

 

that's a good point, trading Bassitt now doesn't necessarily mean Atkins could not go for it again in 2025. He could even re-sign Kikuchi

 

I just looked at the list of FA starters, there will be plenty.

[jaysblue]

Executives keep the more controversial decisions close to the vest.

 

If guys like Gausman or Bo are getting dealt, nobody would really know of those possibilities outside of a small circle. So if it happens it will probably be somewhat sudden, and unexpected.

 

I would not expect tons of rumours. Those deals would be out of nowhere things.

 

No reason for any lower level employees to have any clue right now.

 

My source isn't a lower level employee.

 

One of my friends brother-in-law is family friends with the Rogers CEO and has gone to a lot of Jays games this season in the boxes. Shapiro came in one game and he overheard him talking with the CEO.

 

Sure there is still the possibility that the the Jays out of nowhere move Bo or someone like Gausman, but that isn't in the plans at this time. Things could change obviously and something unexpected could definitely pop up closer to the deadline.

[Laika]

lmao

[Terminator]

Got some insider info from a friend and its reliable...

 

One of my friends brother-in-law is family friends with the Rogers CEO...

 

...

[jaysblue]

lmao

 

Have you ever been in the CEOs box before? Just curious.

[Brownie19]

Have you ever been in the CEOs box before? Just curious.

 

I'm going to support you for once (I'm trying new things). I suspect what you're saying is all 100% true and it's credible enough for me. But - you have to acknowledge how ridiculous that's going to sound when posted on a message board. One reads that connection and in their head it sound like it's a friend of a friend who has a cousin, who's boss plays Fortnite with a kid who's Dad was in the same room as Shapiro and the Rogers CEO.

 

As you say - overhearing something comes with some inherent risk that they misunderstood something, or things could certainly change - but I still take it as interesting info. I'm not overly surprised, although I do think the team would be best to seriously consider trades of Bassitt, Gausman and Berrios (and Kikucci of course) if there are legit offers on the table for their services.

[Omar]

Got some insider info from a friend and its reliable: Jays only going to trade players on expiring contracts at the deadline. So Vlad and Bo won't be traded at the deadline, and that makes it very unlikely Gausman or Bassitt are moved.

 

See the opening post in this thread. That's all the info you need my friend. This doesn't add any more info. .

[jaysblue]

I'm going to support you for once (I'm trying new things). I suspect what you're saying is all 100% true and it's credible enough for me. But - you have to acknowledge how ridiculous that's going to sound when posted on a message board. One reads that connection and in their head it sound like it's a friend of a friend who has a cousin, who's boss plays Fortnite with a kid who's Dad was in the same room as Shapiro and the Rogers CEO.

 

As you say - overhearing something comes with some inherent risk that they misunderstood something, or things could certainly change - but I still take it as interesting info. I'm not overly surprised, although I do think the team would be best to seriously consider trades of Bassitt, Gausman and Berrios (and Kikucci of course) if there are legit offers on the table for their services.

 

I understand haha.

 

It's from a good baseball friend of mine and he doesn't BS, so one of the few I trust. He's also in a couple of baseball circles as well and has even worked at the Rogers Centre before.

 

But yeah, anything can emerge leading up to the deadline. If a team comes in with a very strong offer for someone like Bo or Bassitt or Gausman or Berrios, I'm sure Shapiro considers and would pull the trigger. I guess one of the positives to take away is that the Blue Jays plan as of this moment isn't to completely blow the whole thing up and they plan on giving it another shot in 2025 with the core they have under control. They definitely will be moving expiring contracts from the sounds of it, rather than players still with control.

[Jimcanuck]

There's no way the Jays do not listen on offers for Bo or Vlad, or any player for that matter. It would be executive malpractice not to.

 

As Laika says, anything Shatkins says to the contrary is just politically correct posturing.

[Omar]

"It doesn't make sense for us to trade Bo or Vladdy right now."

Ross Atkins

[Joltin Joe]

My source isn't a lower level employee.

 

One of my friends brother-in-law is family friends with the Rogers CEO and has gone to a lot of Jays games this season in the boxes. Shapiro came in one game and he overheard him talking with the CEO.

 

Sure there is still the possibility that the the Jays out of nowhere move Bo or someone like Gausman, but that isn't in the plans at this time. Things could change obviously and something unexpected could definitely pop up closer to the deadline.

I can see them moving Bo before Vlad.

 

Bassitt I would trade if overpayment. Pretty good chance they could get it. Replace him in free agency this winter.