General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[BatFlip]

The positive way to think about Vlad is just that he happened to be overrated as a prospect because scouts are a bit dumb.

 

He smashes the ball but has never been a guy who lifts the ball. You can see that in his swing plane, and you probably could back in the minors if you are a great scout.

 

So the present outcome is very in line with his physical talents and that's fine! Just pretend that when he was a prospect he was a top 25 guy and not a #1 guy. Pretend that this was his scouting report:

 

You missed your calling

[max silver]

A way over paid Yandy Diaz.

 

Vlad has a chance to come close to earning his money this season if he keeps anything remotely close to his present numbers up. Projection systems have him ending up in the 3.5-4 win range which is a lot more palatable.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Vlad has a chance to come close to earning his money this season if he keeps anything remotely close to his present numbers up. Projection systems have him ending up in the 3.5-4 win range which is a lot more palatable.

 

Agreed. The problem moving forward though will be consistency probably. Because of his 6 WAR season and pedigree he may command $25 million AAV on a long term deal, but you could get anything from 1 to 5 WAR from him season to season.

[Brownie19]

Apparently the Jays are interested in Ryan McMahon.

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2919829/report-blue-jays-among-teams-interested-in-rockies-mcmahon

 

Atkins probably wants to triple down on building this team around defense only! What a dumbass.

[wilko]

Apparently the Jays are interested in Ryan McMahon.

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2919829/report-blue-jays-among-teams-interested-in-rockies-mcmahon

 

Atkins probably wants to triple down on building this team around defense only! What a dumbass.

 

McMahon got pop. But is it Colorado pop? He's on a decent contract.

[Omar]

Apparently the Jays are interested in Ryan McMahon.

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2919829/report-blue-jays-among-teams-interested-in-rockies-mcmahon

 

Atkins probably wants to triple down on building this team around defense only! What a dumbass.

 

Morosi:rolleyes:

[max silver]

Apparently the Jays are interested in Ryan McMahon.

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2919829/report-blue-jays-among-teams-interested-in-rockies-mcmahon

 

Atkins probably wants to triple down on building this team around defense only! What a dumbass.

 

McMahon may have taken a step forward with the bat. He needs to show he can keep it up but he's sitting at a 128 wRC+ presently. The .378 xwOBA is actually better than his actual of .370 so it's not like he's been lucky either. On top of that it's largely been built on games away from Coors Field as he's running a home away split of 95 wRC+ at home vs 158 wRC+ away.

[BTS]

Apparently the Jays are interested in Ryan McMahon.

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2919829/report-blue-jays-among-teams-interested-in-rockies-mcmahon

 

Atkins probably wants to triple down on building this team around defense only! What a dumbass.

 

McMahon is controllable for 3 more years, the Rockies believe every player they have is a super stud that can never be traded, McMahon is not that good, and Ross is probably desperate

 

I don't like this

[Stangstag]

McMahon may have taken a step forward with the bat. He needs to show he can keep it up but he's sitting at a 128 wRC+ presently. The .378 xwOBA is actually better than his actual of .370 so it's not like he's been lucky either. On top of that it's largely been built on games away from Coors Field as he's running a home away split of 95 wRC+ at home vs 158 wRC+ away.

 

It’s always a great idea to trade for guys coming off a career season

[max silver]

It’s always a great idea to trade for guys coming off a career season

 

I'm in no way advocating trading for McMahon.

 

Trading for guys experiencing a breakout season certainly can work out just fine if the guys maintain that type of pace. There's always risk in trades, if you trade for a guy coming off of a bad season there's always the inherent risk the guy is actually bad as well so it goes both ways.

[Eat My Shatkins]

If true, hopefully the Rockies are in love with Craig's son Cavan Biggio. And Horwitz, since he's blocked anyways.

[jaysblue]

I was advocating for a McMahon trade a couple of years ago. The control and contract are nice. Having a solid season offensively as well.

[wilko]

I was advocating for a McMahon trade a couple of years ago. The control and contract are nice. Having a solid season offensively as well.

 

Them splits though..

 

[Terminator]

Them splits though..

 

 

Rockies players are weird. Their home stats are obviously juiced. But their road stats are depressed more than normal due to the "Rockie Road" effect.

 

I don't think it's totally understood but the pitches they see in Coors don't move as much so when they hit the road it looks like everyone's got better stuff than they actually do.

[Nexii]

Vladdy is close to going on a homerun tear. He's close. Close. Just missed that one. Close. He's close.

 

I also find it funny that despite 'no power bro', and his defense and baserunning still being terrible Vladdy is on pace for 3 WAR.

 

A 1b men who could hit .290, walk, hit 10 homers, play defense, run the bases well, is probably 5 WAR in this offensive environment.

 

That player rarely exists anymore, but used to, Keith Hernandez, Grace, Olerud, Scott Hatteburg for 1 year.

 

Yea the position players are getting all the blame while it's actually the pitching that's holding the Jays down. Offense is way down across the league, an average hitter is only .700 OPS this year.

 

Jays lineup is 13th in WAR, not that much below where it was expected to be (~10th?)

 

Pitching is 26th in WAR, and should have been similar to last year (~5th). The excellent defense of the Jays masks just how bad the pitching has really been

[Barrelsandbombs]

They look a lot different in this video

 

[Art Vandelay]

They look a lot different in this video

 

 

I don't know that they look that much different, but it's still disappointing. Such a bad design.

[Terminator]

They look a lot different in this video

 

 

They look much better in this video. The first leaked pic had some orange in it with no number on the front.

[Terminator]

[Barrelsandbombs]

Yeah they look a lot better, if real

[hanton]

Not bad looking - I mean none of the city connect jersey are that good. The "Toronto" font is a little meh

[Brownie19]

Not bad looking - I mean none of the city connect jersey are that good. The "Toronto" font is a little meh

 

I'm with you. They look OK to me. The yellow swoosh is actually red.

[jaysblue]

 

Could have been worse. Actually not bad at all.

[WryNGinger]

Hey maybe this should be an annual sticky thread

Wouldn't be the idea...

E and my buddy from Victoria are going treat ours, spend some extra (hard earned, we are richdudes)and go to the July 6th game in Seattle.

 

We will be com5over the border on Friday night and winding our way down early Saturday.

 

Any advice, cool places to check out? s***** places to avoid ? Good deals on amazing food or be?

[jaysblue]

Hey maybe this should be an annual sticky thread

Wouldn't be the idea...

E and my buddy from Victoria are going treat ours, spend some extra (hard earned, we are richdudes)and go to the July 6th game in Seattle.

 

We will be com5over the border on Friday night and winding our way down early Saturday.

 

Any advice, cool places to check out? s***** places to avoid ? Good deals on amazing food or be������?

 

Haven't been to Seattle since seeing the Jays play there in 2016.

 

Pike Place Market is a cool place. Some cool bars and restaurants around that area as well. A little further from the ballpark however.

[BatFlip]

Haven't been to Seattle since seeing the Jays play there in 2016.

 

Pike Place Market is a cool place. Some cool bars and restaurants around that area as well. A little further from the ballpark however.

 

That's the last time I was there as well. I was living in Vancouver at the time and we used to go every Jays series in Seattle with a group of about 10 of us. Amazing times - great venue, great vibe.

[L54]

Hey maybe this should be an annual sticky thread

Wouldn't be the idea...

E and my buddy from Victoria are going treat ours, spend some extra (hard earned, we are richdudes)and go to the July 6th game in Seattle.

 

We will be com5over the border on Friday night and winding our way down early Saturday.

 

Any advice, cool places to check out? s***** places to avoid ? Good deals on amazing food or be?

 

Hey if you’re a rich dude don’t have to worry about good deals on amazing food

[BatFlip]

Hey maybe this should be an annual sticky thread

Wouldn't be the idea...

E and my buddy from Victoria are going treat ours, spend some extra (hard earned, we are richdudes)and go to the July 6th game in Seattle.

 

We will be com5over the border on Friday night and winding our way down early Saturday.

 

Any advice, cool places to check out? s***** places to avoid ? Good deals on amazing food or be������?

 

 

Couple quick tips - don't park too close to the stadium, if you're willing to walk a few blocks you'll get much cheaper parking a bit farther out. If you like pizza, MOTO pizza on the 300 level is *chef's kiss* and you have to get garlic fries.

 

Spent some time at Hatback Bar & Grille which had a good vibe, but can't remember all the other places we tried. You'll have a blast.

[Brownie19]

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2919611/unsolved-mystery-how-did-rogers-centre-become-a-pitchers-park

 

Oddly enough, on my ride into work this morning, I was wondering how the stadium is performing this year and BAM - The Score does an article on it. Seems odd the Jays and the architects/engineers who did the reno wouldn't have a very solid grasp on how the changes would impact the park factor and such. Unless this is what they wanted (barf). Seems like it's way off what they expected.

[Jays24]

The whole pitchers park thing is nonsense. Our hitters suck and our starting pitchers + defense have been awesome so of course there will be less offense the past 1.5 seasons. Not rocket science.